Australia -taking a tougher stance on asylum seekers, good or bad?
 

Australia asylum: One killed in violence at PNG camp

OK so we often read in NSR about how the UK should get tough with asylum seekers and other illegal imigrants!

Australia have done so, but have they gone too far?

No. If our country had a pair of balls they would do similar here.

The Aussies have the right idea.

La manche proves to be a formidable obstacle, thankfully I guess

You need to filter out the media BS. When ABC broke the story about abuse of refugees by the Australian Navy there was an outcry, then there were questions as to the authenticity and accuracy of the story and finally it turned into a witch hunt at ABC.

Let's get a fact right though:
Asylum seekers - those seeking asylum, protection and a life in a country other than their own.
Illegal immigrants - those that are already in a country illegally, having outstayed their visa or entered illegally.

Two very different groups with one taking a route that is viewed as legal by the state although that's not to say that an asylum seeker may also be an illegal immigrant.

I believe the Australian government are offering to sponsor safe haven for these poor people in PNG.
If you were fleeing danger in your own country, you would be grateful for this Godsend.
On the other hand - if you handed over 10K of your hard earned to a "people smuggler", you might not be so happy with the deal.
I guess as with many things in life, it is just a matter of perspective.

You worried about getting in, Chris? :D

Goinna need a bigger boat..?

:lol1::lol1: Aye, those tents do not look too inviting ;)

No opinion from the most opinionated person on SN? :Suspiciou If this had happened in the U.K. the scourge of politicians,the media,etc would have been all over this like a rash.

+1

This.

I love the way people keep pointing to this post and saying 'this'

'This' doesn't even make any sense

Do you even know or understand the UK's policy on asylum seekers?

SJ_Skyline nailed it. Take out the media hype and it's not really a story. The two types of individual have been commented on.

Paying a scammer thousands, hiding in another country and being found is tough sh*t. Fleeing oppression is different story.

Spot on IMO :thumb:

I'll let you know how it pans out on the ground as I'm back out there in a few weeks and sadly that's my last trip there as far as I can see.

FWIW, if I were to emigrate then I would be looking to the US. AU is all fine and dandy but it's all too Martin 2005 for me ;)

Have they actually got one then :lol1:

It makes perfect sense or obviously they woulden't be agreeing with it you fcuking buffoon, but yet again I say white you say black.

Do I understand the UK's policy on Asylum Seekers?

Do we even have one?

And if we do have one it obviously dosen't bloody work very well does it.

No, none of us do and we are all a bit too thick to read a link so can you please tell us in simple terms what it is. Thanks :thumb:

Why US and not Canada? Obviously if it's easier to get employment in US, then that'd make sense, but if you had a choice of the two, which would you go for? Yeah, ok, I know I'm ever so slightly biased :D

IMHO the UK's policy on asylum seekers should be........... No, you're not coming in.

People who fear for their life in their own country have the right to seek asylum in somebody else's.......................Why? Your country, your problem, go fight your own battles rather than running away. The UK (as with most civilised countries) has enough of it's own problems - Australia has always had a much better way of dealing with immigrants etc. and for those that think this is all "jolly unfair" go live in the KSA (I did for many years) and you'll see what unfair is really about.

The world is way too soft - grow some balls and stop hugging trees.

I like you. :)

lol

I've never really understood politics and matters of government, for me it's quite simple:

To play for a top football team you need skill and experience.
To work in a good honest job you need qualifications and/or experience.
To own a portable phone you need to prove where you live and that you have a bank account.

But to have kids or enter into the UK with nothing more than a bin bag of clothes and be able to claim benefits you need no qualifications nor experience.

I know in reality there are certain criteria needed and it's never that simple but maybe (just maybe) if it was a LOT harder then perhaps the UK (and other predominantly European countries) would be less full of useless lazy over-breading good for nothings who's only lifelong goal appears to be breading more of the same and claiming benefits :nono:

Something very wrong there me thinks :cuckoo:

What has this to do with my post?

This.

It all too easy isn't it...spouting with this kind of worthless tripe from the safety comfort of living here with your massive safety net and freedom to do and say pretty much what you like:brickwall

Yeah let them fight or die, not our problem.... don't you ever come on here moaning about anything:mad:


PS Australian's have a particualr expertise with decimating indigenous populations, I hardly think we have much to learn from those hypocrits

Considering Australia was populated by our ex criminals/convicts it was more than likely us that taught them.

Yes, whereas we just invade other countries and kill milions of innocent civilians in the name of democracy... now that's hypocrisy!

When did we do that? - I assume you are talking about Iraq

So we should compound this injustice with others?

Let he who is without sin and all that!

Australia is a fantastic place, sadly it's starting to get wrecked by the same type of cretins in the media and politics as we have here, but it has a long way to go before it's as bad as this sh1thole!