How much will you give Syria
The UN thinks we're all negligent
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ok, what i miss? lol
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Originally Posted by dpb
(Post 11294158)
The UN thinks we're all negligent
We are to a certain extent culpable too! |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11294253)
We are to a certain extent culpable too!
They have the power to do much more but instead sit on the fence. |
The government can give some of the money they saved by not bombing the sh1t out of it after Cameron lost his vote :thumb:
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
(Post 11294269)
The UN toothless tiger makes us culpable?
They have the power to do much more but instead sit on the fence. Its only power comes through its members, we are an important member... |
How much'll you be shoving over Martin?
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11294275)
Its only power comes through its members, we are an important member...
We may be on the Security Council but every vote is vetoed by the Rusians or Chinese. The writing is on the wall for the talks in January already, even the French have given up. |
Maybe we should keep our noses out and leave Assad to it, I don't understand why Cameron wants to align us with the rebels anyway, when they are the very people our own troops are trying to avoid getting killed by in Afghanistan :cuckoo:
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News reports say we have contributed £50 million in aid. That is a fair whack of taxpayer's money in my book. Nobody likes it when we go in with military force, (and maybe it's time we stopped being a global policeman). And when we dip into our pocket it's never enough.
Is Iraq or Afghanistan a better place for our military intervention? Plenty of media strories say not. Enough of our blood has been spilt fighting other peoples' wars. As for financial support, look at the millions and millions of pounds we have sent to impoverished regions of Africa over the last 50 years. Is the problem of starving children fixed? No. You know what the hard lesson to be learnt from this is? It's never been enough, and it's never ever going to be enough. I'm not saying I begrudge overseas aid, nor that we should stop sending it, but there has to be a limit. |
Whenever there is a question of over where or who the money is going to I won't donate. Syria is a prime example.
Many charities are bad enough on their own, let alone war-torn states or a civil war with "rebels" of dubious intentions. |
I won't be giving a penny. My charity is taking care of all in my own bubble.
Selfish? probably. I'll get over it. |
Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11294274)
The government can give some of the money they saved by not bombing the sh1t out of it after Cameron lost his vote :thumb:
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
(Post 11294395)
Whenever there is a question of over where or who the money is going to I won't donate. Syria is a prime example.
Many charities are bad enough on their own, let alone war-torn states or a civil war with "rebels" of dubious intentions. |
Originally Posted by RA Dunk
(Post 11294402)
Did anyone see Panorama last week? lots of these so called charities are making people abroad very rich.
After witnessing how they operate, I would not give a penny to charity. |
I am not a selfish person. I give to charity, to genuine homeless and needy people I come across. Have been known to by food for homeless people instead of giving money but I can say with no shame or embarrassment that I will not be giving a penny to Syria!
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If I knew every penny of what I gave would be going to the 100s of thousands who have fled the country in genuine fear for their lives, and are now huddled together in tent cities in the desert, I'd gladly donate a few quid. Sadly though, this is very unlikely to be the case (I doubt even a quarter of it would end up there), so I'll probably be sticking with what the UK govt have already paid on my behalf through my taxes.
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11294253)
We are to a certain extent culpable too!
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I only give to the big cat charities so the question is irrelevant to me :thumb:
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Originally Posted by dpb
(Post 11295035)
We told em to have a civil war. ?
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11295959)
Martin won't answer this as he's too busy posting childish comments elsewhere and making a hash of using the quote function while doing it as usual :D
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11295982)
I think you are confusing the word 'childish' with 'accurate'
Anyway your public awaits you answer to the question here! Now which way is the wind blowing I wonder ;) PS well done on the quote function this time, it'll be joined up writing next :thumb: |
Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11295984)
Nope, I know what I meant! Conisdering you don't seem to know what you mean from one day to the next please don't make the mistake of trying to tell me what I meant. Childish it is :thumb:
Anyway your public awaits you answer to the question here! Now which way is the wind blowing I wonder ;) PS well done on the quote function this time, it'll be joined up writing next :thumb: Putting aside some valid comments about some aid not being used properly the fact remains that there are a lot of people who are freezing with no heat, power, clean water or food. Terrified to leave their homes, if they have a home left, and hoping against hope that someone will provide some basic food to keep them alive. I was one of those who thought that we should not get involved in the conflict and even felt that the Russians might have been right to support the Assad regime as that was the lesser of two evils. Now the country is, I dread to think, beyond redemption. I have no answers except to hope and perhaps send some money to a decent charity. My condolences to the family of that orthopaedic surgeon who ried to help. I would be too cowardly to do what he tried. What a f,ucking nightmare. David |
Be aware of this too.
You could walk into the shop of one of these big charities and tell give them X amount of pound for a particular 'disaster'. They will take your money, but they will not do with it as you request, they will do with it as they wish. |
Originally Posted by urban
(Post 11296077)
Be aware of this too.
You could walk into the shop of one of these big charities and tell give them X amount of pound for a particular 'disaster'. They will take your money, but they will not do with it as you request, they will do with it as they wish. Think the RNLI will be my main charity from now on. |
Originally Posted by David Lock
(Post 11296068)
I don't know what you are talking about but why do you have to introduce personal insults to what is really quite a serious thread? Ironic that you accuse someone else of childish behaviour :rolleyes:
Originally Posted by David Lock
(Post 11296068)
Putting aside some valid comments about some aid not being used properly the fact remains that there are a lot of people who are freezing with no heat, power, clean water or food. Terrified to leave their homes, if they have a home left, and hoping against hope that someone will provide some basic food to keep them alive.
I was one of those who thought that we should not get involved in the conflict and even felt that the Russians might have been right to support the Assad regime as that was the lesser of two evils. Now the country is, I dread to think, beyond redemption. I have no answers except to hope and perhaps send some money to a decent charity. My condolences to the family of that orthopaedic surgeon who ried to help. I would be too cowardly to do what he tried. What a f,ucking nightmare. David Hence why I give my money to big cat charities! |
Originally Posted by RA Dunk
(Post 11296087)
Every things so fcuking corrupt nowadays, it's a sad state of affairs when even the bigger charities suffer from this.
Think the RNLI will be my main charity from now on. The only way I'd want to give money to charity now, is to place it in the receivers hand. |
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