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Arch 12 December 2013 12:31 AM

Composite firewalls and boot floor.
 
Ok guys I am thinking of doing this again if there is enough interest.

If there is sufficient interest I can do them for newage impreza's as I will be making a newage template shortly. I would only be able to do the boot floor at standard length for the newage as there is no way of measuring the long one on my road car.

The rear seat back firewalls and boot floor panels are made from 3mm alloy composite. This has a gloss side and a matt side. It is very light and much stronger than comparable alloy on its own. It has protective plastic on so its impossible to tell if there are any imperfections in the finish as I dont want to pull the protective plastic off. If there are it will be very minor, just being honest as its difficult to cut and file it without risking some small marks. The composite is considerably more expensive than plain alloy but as mentioned is much stronger and does not require painting or treating. The white ones are slightly more expensive as the composite is dearer in white for some reason.

I have made previous batches of boot floor panels longer than normal so that they can be used to create a diffuser if you intend cutting your bumper at the same time, this time I would need to know what option was needed to save on the composite.

To make it worthwhile I would need a min of 5 orders of any black item and again a min of 5 of any white items. Doesn't matter if its a mix of boot floors and seat backs firewalls its more for buying the composite. I don't get any discount the more composite I buy so its not possible to reduce the price even if there is a massive interest.

Firewall in white £130

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...1/CIMG3027.jpg

Firewall in black £125

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...1/CIMG3031.jpg

Boot floor in white £115 (£120 if long version to extend into bumper for diffuser)

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...1/CIMG3032.jpg

Boot floor in Black £110 (£115 if long version to extend into bumper for diffuser)

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...1/CIMG3034.jpg

Picture of boot floor on my car extending onto the bumper to create a diffuser. I managed to get mine to mate nicely with the lip that was left on the bumper. All i did was rivet the panel inplace and then gently bend the section up to meet the bumper cut out making a nice smooth curve.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...1/CIMG2936.jpg


Prices are plus postage and paypal fees. I am happy to package these up and courier them but would be happier if you arranged your own courier.

samben 13 December 2013 01:09 PM

Id be interested in a newage firewall in black mate

Mackers 19 December 2013 10:12 PM

I'd be interested in a black rear firewall for a blobeye

sweden 21 December 2013 08:40 AM

Hi Arch could you check on a shipping price to sweden please ;)

LDNSTi 25 December 2013 08:25 PM

I'd have a black firewall for a blob eye matey. Money waiting.

Arch 27 December 2013 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by sweden (Post 11298582)
Hi Arch could you check on a shipping price to sweden please ;)

Will have a look but I suspect it will be lots. Its getting harder to courier them within the UK due to the size. Weight isn't an issue but overall size once boxed up and protected becomes the problem.

FredW 31 December 2013 04:21 PM

Hi Arch,
I'll take a blobeye (03STi) firewall in black please. Group buy looks like this.

Firewall in black
1 samben - newage
2 Mackers - newage blobeye
3 LDNSTi - newage blobeye
4 FredW - newage blobeye

not sure what sweden is interested in but sure he will add his name

SUBTYPER 03 January 2014 07:09 PM

Hi Arch do.you cover the gc8 classic imprezaas well, and whenyou say composite do you mean carbonfibre

Arch 06 January 2014 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by SUBTYPER (Post 11311430)
Hi Arch do.you cover the gc8 classic imprezaas well, and whenyou say composite do you mean carbonfibre

Yes all the ones in the pictures are for classics. The composite isn't Carbon fibre can you imagine the price of a piece of carbon fibre that big. The material is two outer layers of aluminium sandwiching a polythene core. The material is very light and very strong.

Sorry for not getting back to the PM's will sort tonight.

sihorton 06 January 2014 12:32 PM

Arch, Can I take a newage firewall in white please.

Also might be interested in a newage boot floor with the diffuser extension. Have you got a picture from inside of your car (I know it's a gc8) of how your floor mounts? Basically is it attached above or below the chassis rails?

Arch 06 January 2014 07:11 PM

Si Plenty pics on my project thread. Its riveted on above the chassis rails, to attach it below would not give the same level of support.
Will need to see what I have left in white as most people are after black and the white is more expensive for some reason so would be expensive to buy a sheet for one item.

sihorton 06 January 2014 07:41 PM

Thanks Arch.

Black is fine, car's going to paint anyway.
BTW, have you tried to fabricate any diffuser end plates / airflow guide's for your diffuser from the same material? if so, does it bond too ok or have you attached them another way?

Arch 06 January 2014 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by sihorton (Post 11314935)
Thanks Arch.

Black is fine, car's going to paint anyway.
BTW, have you tried to fabricate any diffuser end plates / airflow guide's for your diffuser from the same material? if so, does it bond too ok or have you attached them another way?

Lol started doing this yesterday. I have started cutting out templates, if the surface is flat then its not a problem but this material does not fold well, it can be bent in a curve but you cant right angle it. I am going to box the chassis rails separately and then have single pieces of the composite attached to the boot floor probably using right angle brackets riveted and discretely placed. Not something that could be made off the shelf tho.

Arch 06 January 2014 08:15 PM

Should have added the material will bond in the same way aluminium or any flat surface will.

Arch 08 January 2014 09:13 AM

guys I am hoping to get the new age firewall template made up this weekend. I would anticipate these being finished and ready to ship out by the end of this month.
I have had a quick look at courier costs and due to the size the cheepest quotes i can find are around £16-17 region without insurance to Uk mainland. Insurance is £7 up to £100 and £13 up to £250. Rates to NI are much higher and were coming in around £42 without insurance.

The cost to sweden would be ridiculous so unfortunately I think it is a non starter. The costs have gone up massively since i first done this. The problem is the physical size once boxed up. If anyone else has any ideas to get a deal on shipping feel free to jump in and suggest. I have tried interparcel, Paisley frieight and parcelforce. Interparcel wont quote for the dimensions. Parcelforce needs to be Express 48 large due to the dimensions. Paisley freight was the cheepest I could find.

ATWRX 25 January 2014 02:01 PM

Hi Arch, I could be interested in one of these if they are to go inside the boot?? Or am I misreading something?

Arch 26 January 2014 12:52 AM

guys I have now completed the template for the newage firewall and need to order the composite asap. can you confirm who still wants a firewall.
thanks

Arch 26 January 2014 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by ATWRX (Post 11333910)
Hi Arch, I could be interested in one of these if they are to go inside the boot?? Or am I misreading something?

the firewall has to mount on the car side of the boot.

Arch 28 January 2014 12:16 PM

Can those still interested in this drop me a PM. I don't want to start ordering composite only to find some no longer need them. I will only have a small window of time to do this due to time requirements on my own car so basically by the end of this week will determine if it goes ahead or not.
thanks

Arch 30 January 2014 02:09 PM

Ok guys. I will start a new list. I will be ordering the composite lunch time on Fri after that I wont be doing these until after the summer. I only have a window of next Mon - Wed to do these so any one that wants one needs to let me know before lunch time Fri after the composite is ordered then the list will be final.

So far

1. Fred W - Newage Firewall Black
2. Leecalcars - Classic Firewall Black
3. Mackers

Arch 31 January 2014 02:44 PM

List finalised as above. Composite ordered.

samben 31 January 2014 10:10 PM

Sorry arch missed your pm's

I will get in on this next time round whenever that may be

Sam

Arch 01 February 2014 01:19 AM

There may not be mate its getting marginal whether its worth making them. There may be enough for 2 over and above the ones above but cant be sure until I start cutting it.

leecalcars 02 February 2014 05:50 PM

Can the composite be sprayed arch?

leecalcars 02 February 2014 05:51 PM

White is preference but if not so long as it can be sprayed il spray it no problem mate

Arch 04 February 2014 01:10 AM

Ok guys I have cut the panels today and will file and finally shape them tomorrow. I will hopefully test fit the newage ones at the weekend.
I have cut 5 newage panels 4 black and one white and one classic panel in white.

The white composite they sent this time has an alloy back instead of white both sides. I have cut it so the white side faces the inside so it is available if anyone prefers it. It will be the same price as the black.

The list as above is

1. Fred W - Newage Firewall Black
2. Leecalcars - Classic Firewall White
3. Mackers - newage firewall Black

Mackers 04 February 2014 01:13 PM

I'll have the Newage one in White that you have
Mate.
Cheers,
Dave

Arch 05 February 2014 01:40 AM

Ok guys panels all finished today.
Dave I have put your name on the newage white panel list amended.

White Classic

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...psa8d44784.jpg

White Newage

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ps0abe4e17.jpg

Black Newage

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ps3f4c51ec.jpg

These are a nightmare to pack but I am aiming for collection from me next Mon or Tue if I can get them packed. If not it will be the following week. I will have to get some polystyrene to pack them, when that arrives will determine collection.

I have checked postage and due too the size the cheapest I can do the postage and packing is £20 per panel and that is me paying for most of the packaging.

There are 2 Newage black panels still available. If anyone needs one drop me a PM

thanks
Archie

Arch 06 February 2014 10:18 PM

1. Fred W - Newage Firewall Black PAID
2. Leecalcars - Classic Firewall White
3. Mackers - newage firewall White PAID

Arch 07 February 2014 11:26 AM

Only one new age panel in Black left now.


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