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stonejedi 14 November 2013 08:25 PM

I think what needs doing is someone to do a power print out with one of these turbos fitted VS the usual brand and see how the numbers stack up.SJ.

PrimeKos 14 November 2013 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 11264631)
I think what needs doing is someone to do a power print out with one of these turbos fitted VS the usual brand and see how the numbers stack up.SJ.

Agreed this is what I was after. I do know in the US there is graphs on NASIOC comparing them to the Blouch and power outputs are very similar

stonejedi 14 November 2013 08:50 PM

I totally agree with you though it's just that these turbos need a chance to try and prove themselves in the tuners market over here in the UK for people to take them seriously and that's what they have not done yet.In the USA there modifying scene is massive and cheap so people can afford to buy stuff test them to destruction and so on with out putting a big hole in there pocket.I think that another thread needs to be started with actual users of these turbo's who can give some hands on feedback and not hearsay.SJ.

Henrik 14 November 2013 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 11264685)
I totally agree with you though it's just that these turbos need a chance to try and prove themselves in the tuners market over here in the UK for people to take them seriously and that's what they have not done yet.In the USA there modifying scene is massive and cheap so people can afford to buy stuff test them to destruction and so on with out putting a big hole in there pocket.I think that another thread needs to be started with actual users of these turbo's who can give some hands on feedback and not hearsay.SJ.

Like this one https://www.scoobynet.com/showthread.php?t=967648 :)

stonejedi 14 November 2013 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Henrik (Post 11264711)

Post a link that works mate,my bad works now:DI remember that one but the OP went quite.SJ.

RICHARD J 14 November 2013 09:23 PM

None of the big tuning companies are going to test these as they all make a fortune selling their own branded turbos & most people will prefer to pay over the odds for a known product with guaranteed results. Perhaps someone should start a thread detailing results & car spec with graphs & details of how long the turbos last, once several cars are on it people can see for themselves if these turbos are worth a punt.

PrimeKos 14 November 2013 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 11264714)
Post a link that works mate,my bad works now:DI remember that one but the OP went quite.SJ.

Still managed 365bhp on an 18G kinugawa so clearly they making the figures they advertising. Question is how reliable it's been since then and now to get a few more up.

Dai P 14 November 2013 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11264408)
Well i'll be rebuilding and modifying a TD04 using their parts after xmas so we will see how it performs.;)

I'd be very interested in hearing some more details of this Ditch :cool:

stonejedi 14 November 2013 09:28 PM

Tried and tested is how I do things for sure,but I would love to see a thread like that with all different makes of turbo's with graphs of how they respond on what size engine,modifications etc... To emerge.SJ.

jura11 14 November 2013 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 11264730)
Tried and tested is how I do things for sure,but I would love to see a thread like that with all different makes of turbo's with graphs of how they respond on what size engine,modifications etc... To emerge.SJ.

Hi SJ

Would you risk put unknown turbo with unknown history of reputation or reliability on yours engine?

I wouldn't


Jura

LUCKO 14 November 2013 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by jura11 (Post 11264862)
Hi SJ

Would you risk put unknown turbo with unknown history of reputation or reliability on yours engine?

I wouldn't


Jura

i agree, it would be on par with bumming a hooker with a condom made out of cling film

stonejedi 15 November 2013 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by jura11 (Post 11264862)
Hi SJ

Would you risk put unknown turbo with unknown history of reputation or reliability on yours engine?

I wouldn't


Jura

I hear ya jura but how does a part get a reputation?it has to be test driven hard make good power have good reliability,maybe if someone built a car around one of these turbos and started kicking ass on the track maybe people might sit up ans listen.I think the jury is still out with this one as one or two bad experiences should not be used to rubbish a whole brand.SJ.

RA Dunk 15 November 2013 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by jura11 (Post 11264862)
Hi SJ

Would you risk put unknown turbo with unknown history of reputation or reliability on yours engine?

I wouldn't


Jura


I think that's why most of us pay extra for certain things, it's for the back ground and history of items.

Someone else has done the donkey work and been the Guinee pig in most cases and we just pay extra for that reason.

I'll keep paying extra for piece of mind TBH.

Ollystiv4 17 November 2013 04:52 PM

i have just purchased a Kinugawa TD05-25G-7CM BILLET WITH 3" ANTI SURGE COVER, so will be more than happy to post results after its mapped after christmas, its fitted to a sti v4 with a vesion 7 bottom end, graham goode modified oil pump, hks headers and uppipe, 800cc densos ported and polished version 4 heads front mount fuel lab reg etc not after wringing all the horse out of it just after a reliable car that i can trackday and enjoy! There is of course speculation as to wether these turbos are any good etc but only time will tell, worse case AF gets a call for a rebuild!! but as im sure you guys are aware the reliabilty on any parts you add will depend on what you've already done and how much stress they are under which in due course will determin how long the whole engine lasts.
Like i said im hoping for around 380ish so will keep you posted.
Thanks OLLY

stonejedi 17 November 2013 04:58 PM

Subscribed to this one Olly so remember to come back with your power and experiences with your Kinugawa turbo:thumb:.SJ.

Ollystiv4 17 November 2013 05:23 PM

Forget to say jgm will be mapping it on a esl.

RA Dunk 17 November 2013 06:49 PM

You should be making 380+ on a standard 20g, I would be looking for over 400 on the billet version TBH

Fudgey 17 November 2013 09:26 PM

My old sierra had a £4k+ engine, zetec turbo
I used an xs power £250 ebay T4 turbo on it. It was mapped at 397bhp/386lbft and had more in it but i had surge issues.

Unfortunatly the car was wrote off 1/2 miles down the road after being mot'd and road legal after the 5.5 year build on it...

I covered 167 miles with it, now they are usually pretty good so long as you dont go over 21psi but i was running 28psi lol.

I seen it as a consumable item lol at that price, so if it had to be changed every couple of years it was no biggie...

BUT after removal it has the normal up and down shaft movement, and slight in/out movement but it had 270 degree bearings. With a decent set of bearings in sure it would have been fine.

When it hit full boost it was brutal lol, lit the rear tyres up and you were almost facing the way you had been coming from lol

So, im all up for trying a kinugawa, so once the house is done ill be looking to fettle with the car a bit and start collecting parts, but its not going to be for a good while yet.

veerinder9 21 April 2014 01:21 PM

Thread revival. I wonder if olly got his car mapped and if anyone else has any input :)

User 21721 21 April 2014 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by veerinder9 (Post 11409775)
Thread revival. I wonder if olly got his car mapped and if anyone else has any input :)

+1

Regards,

Subaru Collector 555.

GONZO01 06 January 2015 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Ollystiv4 (Post 11267110)
i have just purchased a Kinugawa TD05-25G-7CM BILLET WITH 3" ANTI SURGE COVER, so will be more than happy to post results after its mapped after christmas, its fitted to a sti v4 with a vesion 7 bottom end, graham goode modified oil pump, hks headers and uppipe, 800cc densos ported and polished version 4 heads front mount fuel lab reg etc not after wringing all the horse out of it just after a reliable car that i can trackday and enjoy! There is of course speculation as to wether these turbos are any good etc but only time will tell, worse case AF gets a call for a rebuild!! but as im sure you guys are aware the reliabilty on any parts you add will depend on what you've already done and how much stress they are under which in due course will determin how long the whole engine lasts.
Like i said im hoping for around 380ish so will keep you posted.
Thanks OLLY

Any results on this?

leetec 07 January 2015 09:25 PM

Hi

i run a Kinugawa TD06-20G on my V3 type r.

Other mods are full 3" exhaust, HDI FMIC, Silicone intake pipe, Apexi air filter, Walbro fuel pump and FPR.

Power is 380bhp@1.4bar. full boost at around 4700rpm and makes power right to the limiter. standard injectors are maxed out. i was looking to go for 400bhp. still running standard engine.

hope this helps

Lee

Mustoe91 07 January 2015 09:51 PM

I've been looking at these to put on my blob wrx to replace my vf35 would I be right in saying I would be best to go for a td05-18g ? Cars currently running 333bhp so was just looking to take off the vf35 put on and get it mapped

scooby2.5maz 01 November 2016 06:31 PM

Thread revival ,lol
 
Just purchased an rb5 with a Kinugawa td05 25g attached to a fully forged 2.5 :wonder: going Alcatek and mapped next week so I'll let you all know how it goes :p. Lol

Maz

scooby2.5maz 17 November 2016 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by scooby2.5maz (Post 11890485)
Just purchased an rb5 with a Kinugawa td05 25g attached to a fully forged 2.5 :wonder: going Alcatek and mapped next week so I'll let you all know how it goes :p. Lol

Maz

Well , had some mapping yesterday and it made 390/390 @ 1.6 bar on v power . Not bad on stock wrx heads .:):):)

scooby2.5maz 17 November 2016 07:00 AM

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Here you go ! Kinugawa all the way ! Lol

Ste333 17 November 2016 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by scooby2.5maz (Post 11895452)
Well , had some mapping yesterday and it made 390/390 @ 1.6 bar on v power . Not bad on stock wrx heads .:):):)

thats a good result mate! I should've stuck around for the mapping lol. what time did you get done?

Nice to meet you by the way. Steve :thumb:

scooby2.5maz 17 November 2016 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Ste333 (Post 11895457)
thats a good result mate! I should've stuck around for the mapping lol. what time did you get done?

Nice to meet you by the way. Steve :thumb:


Hi Steve , like wise .:thumb: got done for around 6pm ish. How did the car feel ??

Ste333 17 November 2016 07:59 AM

oh cool, thats not bad at all. Mine feels good yeah! I havent had chance to properly stretch its legs yet...as came straight out of Marks...and straight into traffic all the way home :( but I gave it a few little blips and it definitely pulls much better. I'll give it a proper workout this weekend.

How did yours feel after mapping? I bet that will feel so much quicker in the RB5, than your old Hawk did - even at higher power.

On-the-bog 17 November 2016 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by scooby2.5maz (Post 11895453)
Here you go ! Kinugawa all the way ! Lol

damn thats laggy :o


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