If only Miliband was in power...
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Fcuk sake another massive price hike, they really are trying it on now...
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Who's gonna stop 'em?
Dave? HIS mates are making money from them. OFGAS? Toothless. And it's NO good economising, they HAVE to make a profit, so will just bang the prices up AGAIN:mad: NOW who thinks it was a good idea to sell off BG? |
And yet inflation will magically be unaffected and Dave and George will tell us all how great things are again :lol1:
You couldn't make it up! |
He was in 'power' a few years ago, signed us up to a EU directive on emissions and now we are getting crucified for it.
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Yet the BBC says they've put prices up in case Clueless Miliband and his tribe of Benefit supports gets back in power and freezes prices.
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Originally Posted by stilover
(Post 11231983)
Yet the BBC says they've put prices up in case Clueless Miliband and his tribe of Benefit supports gets back in power and freezes prices.
As alacazar says they should never have been privatised in the first place! |
So are we all expecting the Post office start putting it prices up (more) after its privatised ?
Richard |
Originally Posted by richs2891
(Post 11232014)
So are we all expecting the Post office start putting it prices up (more) after its privatised ?
Richard |
Originally Posted by richs2891
(Post 11232014)
So are we all expecting the Post office start putting it prices up (more) after its privatised ?
Richard Different delivery bands(stretching out 1st and 2nd class), different delivery slots etc. |
Originally Posted by urban
(Post 11232076)
Without a doubt, and they'll be sneaky about how they do it.
Different delivery bands(stretching out 1st and 2nd class), different delivery slots etc. |
Well we shouldn't let the facts get in the way of a good rant
http://order-order.com/2013/09/25/ho...est-of-europe/ http://www.theopinionsite.org/how-mu...han-you-think/ |
Hot water is a luxury that people are going to have to realise they aren't entitled to. A warm bath once a week is going to have to do most people, unless they bloody work harder!
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
(Post 11232189)
Well we shouldn't let the facts get in the way of a good rant
http://order-order.com/2013/09/25/ho...est-of-europe/ |
Originally Posted by Dingdongler
(Post 11232189)
Well we shouldn't let the facts get in the way of a good rant
http://order-order.com/2013/09/25/ho...est-of-europe/ http://www.theopinionsite.org/how-mu...han-you-think/ |
Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11232205)
The chart on that... ahem... website takes no account of income levels in all these countries. For instance energy is effectively cheaper in France or Germany than here as they have higher average incomes than here!
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Is France still turning off its street lights late at night?
The UK does make me wonder why it feel its necessary to have so many street lights running all night long with 1970's photocell technology (which consume power even when the light is off). Admittedly some councils are trialling networked "intelligent" photocells but this stuff was around well over ten years ago. Not to forget the all the old familiar "yellow" low pressure sodium lamps have all been replaced by white (ish) high pressure sodium lamps that comsume MORE power per lumen than the lamps they replaced. At a time when energy prices are forever increasing! Beggers belief! |
We're under Harborough District Council in Leicestershire.
Most of our village's street lights go off around midnight and come back on about 6am. We've had this for several years and it seems to work very well. We also have fortnightly wheelie bin collections, with our recycling bins collected on the other weeks, and they're excellent too. |
Originally Posted by Osimabu
(Post 11232448)
We also have fortnightly wheelie bin collections.
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We still have weekly bin collections.
Admittedly, one of two bins is collected one week and the other the next, but its still a weekly collection. I thank the Tories or that. :thumb: ;) |
Originally Posted by zip106
(Post 11232480)
We still have weekly bin collections.
Admittedly, one of two bins is collected one week and the other the next, but its still a weekly collection. I thank the Tories or that. :thumb: ;) |
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
(Post 11232402)
Is France still turning off its street lights late at night?
The UK does make me wonder why it feel its necessary to have so many street lights running all night long with 1970's photocell technology (which consume power even when the light is off). Admittedly some councils are trialling networked "intelligent" photocells but this stuff was around well over ten years ago. Not to forget the all the old familiar "yellow" low pressure sodium lamps have all been replaced by white (ish) high pressure sodium lamps that comsume MORE power per lumen than the lamps they replaced. At a time when energy prices are forever increasing! Beggers belief! We have replaced most of our stock with a management system that utilises dimming and part night switch off's. This is returning 500k a year savings on energy costs (even after ROI of the management system implementation costs), over the previous installation prior to this recent asset change. Other authorities have gone for high cost replacement lamps..... the trouble is the ROI on those units is something like 25yrs. It's not only domestic users that get hit with these immense price increases in energy costs. Unfortunately even these types of savings pale in to insignificance when authorities like ours are now tasked with a reduction in budgets amounting to £92million over the next four years (it will be £110+ million if a Council Tax increase does not happen)........... that is going to hurt big style on an annual budget of around £400 million. There's a storm coming! |
Does anyone expect the utilities comps to operate at a loss? .Lat year iirc sse returned a profit of 4.5%, yes profits may seem huge at 100's millions but look at the big picture ffs. Remember as well utilities such as wwu are investing billions up rating the old pipes and cables. Without profit this would never happen.
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Originally Posted by Chip
(Post 11232581)
Does anyone expect the utilities comps to operate at a loss? .Lat year iirc sse returned a profit of 4.5%, yes profits may seem huge at 100's millions but look at the big picture ffs. Remember as well utilities such as wwu are investing billions up rating the old pipes and cables. Without profit this would never happen.
However, you need to realise how this is done and what impact it has on the consumer. Price controls are put in place by OFGEM to ensure you and I don't get one from behind. Average increase to our bills equates to just under a tenner a year. That increase is year on year till 2021.... 2021 average will equate to just under £13 when you take in to account appropriate indexing. |
Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11231978)
And yet inflation will magically be unaffected and Dave and George will tell us all how great things are again :lol1:
You couldn't make it up! They do!:lol1: |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 11231967)
NOW who thinks it was a good idea to sell off BG? |
Idiot :D
No, the street lights here in France now stay on, there are almost as many as in the UK, but not on major roads, just in towns. Most are LP Sodium. We even have ONE where I live........ |
Originally Posted by Shaun
(Post 11232594)
Yeah try £30 billion investment.
However, you need to realise how this is done and what impact it has on the consumer. Price controls are put in place by OFGEM to ensure you and I don't get one from behind. Average increase to our bills equates to just under a tenner a year. That increase is year on year till 2021.... 2021 average will equate to just under £13 when you take in to account appropriate indexing. |
Tony, nobody is asking anybody to thank anyone, just merely pointing out a few facts.
But please tell me, do you think SSE etc should make a profit or not. If not, where do you suggest the money for investment should come from? |
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