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Fudgey 27 August 2013 10:58 PM

Carberry rom??
 
Evening chaps, i have been trying to find out info on the carberry rom and got a little info but not a definitive answer to my question lol.

Ok, i have a 2001 bug uk300. Can i get it mapped with carberry rom, and can i go maf less, and can i have als without any extra engine bits?

I know it will need switches etc, but can the stock iscv flow enough air for the als etc?

Cheers for any input. Also, who can map it! :thumb:

mantazini 28 August 2013 12:12 AM

Best man to speak about this is Francis@RomPerfomance . His number is on my signature... It's definitely a way forward .

bengo 28 August 2013 07:36 AM

You can run carberry on your car fine, and you can add switches to one of the unused ECU pins (such as the transmission ID pin) or use a switch like the rear window demister to activate ALS, LC, FFS...

I'm not sure if your car has TGVs but if it does they need to be removed as the software can't control them. Also you should really buy a new intake air temp sensor as it currently sits in the MAF which is not the best place to take a temp reading for SD.

To run ALS correctly you need to have the throttle kicked slightly (you can adjust the throttle cable to hold it open slightly), the software has rotational idle so it doesn't over rev on idle. It's a very aggressive ALS and not something you would want to run all the time...

Best to speak with your mapper...

Fudgey 28 August 2013 07:52 AM

Cheers for the info chaps, its certainly something to look into when i get to the point of needing the car mapped.

yes mine does have the TGV's, so ill take those out before hand etc.
relocating an air temp sensor shouldnt be too much worry if the inlet has to come off anyway.

with the ALS tho, all other systems i have seen use an ISCV, so if the throttle is open a bit all the time, wouldnt that make it a bit difficult to drive at low speeds?

id probably not have the ALS switched by the rear demister, just incase the missus drives the car, i doubt she would be too happy about that lol

cheers guys

MartynJ 28 August 2013 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by mantazini (Post 11191865)
Best man to speak about this is Francis@RomPerfomance . His number is on my signature... It's definitely a way forward .

Or any of the other people who map in this manner but do a proper job of it and pay to advertise on this site :thumb:

To the OP, yes you can run it, yes you need to remove the TGV's first and install switches to enjoy all of the features.
If you'd like a quote give Alan a call on 01752 345880 !

bengo 28 August 2013 08:04 AM

Its not too bad to drive as the rotational idle kicks in to lower the revs, but it can be a bit jerky at low speeds. The biggest issue is braking, as the engine isn't in vacuum the brake servo won't operate properly...

There are ways around it though...

bengo 28 August 2013 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by MartynJ (Post 11191937)
Or any of the other people who map in this manner but do a proper job of it and pay to advertise on this site

:thumb:

Maz 28 August 2013 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by MartynJ (Post 11191937)
Or any of the other people who map in this manner but do a proper job of it and pay to advertise on this site :thumb:

To the OP, yes you can run it, yes you need to remove the TGV's first and install switches to enjoy all of the features.
If you'd like a quote give Alan a call on 01752 345880 !

Are you suggesting that Francis doesn't do a proper job?
Not everyone has the time or inclination to travel to Plymouth for a mapping session so the recommendation of mobile mappers is helpful. I'd also recommend Andrew Carr who mapped my car. Teamcarr.net. No he doesn't pay to advertise on this site. He doesn't slag off other mappers either.

Fudgey 28 August 2013 01:27 PM

no fighting please boys.

im not ready yet to have any mapping done, just trying to gather info/parts for as and when etc.

there are a fair few reputable tuners on here so lets keep it at that lol.

as for the brake servo, that might be an issue lol. the standard cast 4-pots are pretty poor imo anyway, so to make them worse is not a good thing lol.

toneh 28 August 2013 06:34 PM

All mappers are brilliant , don't dare say otherwise
Andrew Carr = good price + good work

Fudgey 28 August 2013 07:31 PM

I thought you done your own mapping tone? From something i was reading earlier lol

Truss 28 August 2013 07:37 PM

I had Andrew Carr put carberry rom with twin maps and anti lag my STI. To say im chuffed is an understatement. Car drives very nice and i've also gained around 50 miles to a tank of fuel compared to my old map. Thoroughly nice chap too.

the shreksta 28 August 2013 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Truss (Post 11192531)
I had Andrew Carr put his carberry rom with twin maps and anti lag my STI. To say im chuffed is an understatement. Car drives very nice and i've also gained around 50 miles to a tank of fuel compared to my old map.

you had any of the above downsides?

wrx0211 28 August 2013 07:42 PM

have been running this for sometime,switches and temp sensors all fitted and mapped by andrew carr,was told my car was one the first.great job,great price.just a pity he stays 250+ from me for tweaks ect.

toneh 28 August 2013 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by Fudgey (Post 11192526)
I thought you done your own mapping tone? From something i was reading earlier lol

Yeah I did , it was fun but gets boring once the novelty has worn off
The entertainment on here was more fun ;)

toneh 28 August 2013 07:47 PM

I've been a fan of c berry rom for sooo long
Why it's not become the norm I don't know

jayallen 28 August 2013 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Truss (Post 11192531)
I had Andrew Carr put his carberry rom with twin maps and anti lag my STI. To say im chuffed is an understatement. Car drives very nice and i've also gained around 50 miles to a tank of fuel compared to my old map.

His Carberry ROM? I thought he had stopped passing off as his own?

toneh 28 August 2013 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by jayallen (Post 11192552)
His Carberry ROM?

Pmsl , I've only been back 2 minits , stop it ,

toneh 28 August 2013 07:52 PM

I think it's just a figure of speech , I'm sure he meant " the carberry rom "
Anyway , his , hers , or anyone's , it's a good thing

jayallen 28 August 2013 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by toneh (Post 11192555)
Pmsl , I've only been back 2 minits , stop it ,

Lol.....welcome back Tone, where you been?

It was a genuine question, it wasn't long ago he was passing it off as his own and only posted an apology after Carbibbles made an appearance on here...

toneh 28 August 2013 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by jayallen (Post 11192564)
Lol.....welcome back Tone, where you been?

It was a genuine question, it wasn't long ago he was passing it off as his own and only posted an apology after Carbibbles made an appearance on here...

Cheers mate , had a bit of a bad year , but chin up and all that

Yeah can remember when carbibbles turned up , great fun lol
Pity we couldn't have kept him here

Truss 28 August 2013 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 11192536)
you had any of the above downsides?

No, i dont use the ALS in situations that require braking, ie its just for show tbh.


Originally Posted by jayallen (Post 11192552)
His Carberry ROM? I thought he had stopped passing off as his own?

I shall edit my post accordingly, i'm aware of the confusion of said mapping thread involving Andrew.

toneh 28 August 2013 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Truss (Post 11192623)
No, i dont use the ALS in situations that require braking, ie its just for show tbh.


I shall edit my post accordingly, i'm aware of the confusion of said mapping thread involving Andrew.

Mmm don't all situations require braking
Tbh I think the effect of a/l on braking is slightly over exaggerated , it's no different to riding a two stroke bike with little engine braking to a four stroke with lots
Just requires a little forward thinking

Truss 28 August 2013 09:06 PM

Not when im sat stationary. So far personally ive only used it for show.

toneh 28 August 2013 09:11 PM

[QUOTE=Truss;11192696]Not when im sat stationary. So far personally ive only used it for show.[/

What ever floats yer boat I suppose , seems a bit of a waste of turbo / engine wear to entertain other folk

bustaMOVEs 28 August 2013 09:34 PM

+1 for Andrew Carr too, had mine mapped with him too.
I know he hasn't got much fan boys on here but that's probably because he doesn't need to come on here touting for business like some.

Tony you gandu!

toneh 28 August 2013 09:40 PM

Oi , I'll tear you a new gandu if you don't watch your gob
Green hornet :)

wrx0211 28 August 2013 09:40 PM

ive used the launch control and the anti-lag on the 1/4 mile,cant say ive noticed any issue with the brakes although i usually switch the a/l off just after crossing the line.

toneh 28 August 2013 09:41 PM

Now look , you've turned up and it's quickly going Pete tong again !!

Fudgey 28 August 2013 09:45 PM

If i had als it would get used properly!

On my old 3dr sierra i had a bias pedal box, so no servo etc but did have evo 8 brembo callipers front and rear, 330mm front, 300mm rear. The brakes on that were pretty good.

The std scoob brakes are pretty, err, shocking! (With regard to car power and weight imo)


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