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jimboscooby 23 July 2013 02:40 PM

Bottom end's gone!!!!
 
I'm absolutely devastated. I had Tim over to do a service and check out a strange noise coming from just behind the dash. Service went fine and all fluids looked fairly healthy but when we inspected the strange noise it turns out the bottom end has gone!!
I only picked the car up a month ago and drove it back from Somerset with no issues at all. Its a V5 sti mapped by enginetuner at 346bhp.
I drove it to stansted and by the time I had come home the MAF had gone. I replaced the MAF and then it developed this noise. So I've only really had 2 trips in it and now it's knackered!!!

Tim's given me a few options but just wondering what people think would be a good way to get her back on the road. I'm tempted with a 2.1 kit........but I could break it to try and get my money back???

Anyway, I'm gutted at the moment but I know that I'll get her back up and running at some point later this year!!
The money pit is open................:(

big_joe 23 July 2013 02:50 PM

I had a similar thing, bought my Type R and 2 weeks later the bottom end went. I had a full standard rebuild done and had it remapped for piece of mind....never looked back since. I guess if you plan on keeping the car a while a rebuild is the way to go, otherwise breaking it to recoup some money is an option.

jimboscooby 23 July 2013 03:08 PM

Yeh I wanna keep it I think. Breaking would be a huge pain!!
Im probably gonna go with the sti9 bottom end as 400bhp max would be fine. Just gutted its happened!!!!! I didn't even get a chance to enjoy it before it died!!! :(

Osimabu 23 July 2013 03:58 PM

Looking on the bright side, at least this way you're going to end up with a cracking car with a known bullet-proof engine which you can then really enjoy.

I do feel very sorry for you though.

big_joe 23 July 2013 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by jimboscooby (Post 11157564)
Yeh I wanna keep it I think. Breaking would be a huge pain!!
Im probably gonna go with the sti9 bottom end as 400bhp max would be fine. Just gutted its happened!!!!! I didn't even get a chance to enjoy it before it died!!! :(

Exactly the same......I know it's heartbreaking but in my case I now have a freshly rebuilt engine, new clutch, oil pump, water pump, Cambelt etc etc and I know the map is spot on. Essentially it shouldn't be needing anything other than routine servicing for a good time to come....and that is a nice feeling!

jimboscooby 23 July 2013 05:55 PM

Yeh I know what you mean. I think it's definitely worth doing and worth doing properly so I know that it won't need anything. For a long time.
I'm so glad I didn't have the AlcAtek fitted and mapped before this happened. I'd have been really annoyed then!!!!

Tidgy 23 July 2013 06:17 PM

2.5 it :)

big_joe 23 July 2013 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by jimboscooby (Post 11157739)
I'm so glad I didn't have the AlcAtek fitted and mapped before this happened. I'd have been really annoyed then!!!!



It may not have happened in the first place then though. Did it have any modifications?

scooby 887 23 July 2013 07:14 PM

had this happen to me last month drove it home then went out in it the next day. i did 15 miles and the bottom end went Tim of Subbus is rebuilding it as we speak i've also gone with the sti9 bottom end rebuilt with ACL bearings uprated head gaskets etc. it's a real pain but worth it in the long run i hope you get it sorted mate

Scoobyblues 23 July 2013 08:07 PM

Very unlucky buddy.
I had pretty much the same thing happen to me, picked up my new purchase big grin, happy as larry, drove the 120miles home, bimbled around town for a few weeks then the bottom end suddenly went tits up on a Sunday evening, just 3 weeks later. Went through the financial pain of getting it sorted and back on the road, loving it all over again and now the misses has lost her job and I can't afford to run three vehicles with two children,so my little lovely will be going up for sale very soon :-(

Not that any of this helps you of course, but I feel your pain. They're great cars, love the burble when taking it easy and the pops and bangs when giving it a bit of poke. Good luck with the rebuild, you're not the first and definitely won't be the last.

carpeys 23 July 2013 08:13 PM

crankshaft
 
hi all when doing a rebuild why is it necessary to have a new crankshaft , why cant they be reground like on any other engine

Jacko4130 23 July 2013 08:21 PM

I had the same problem, Had my car 7 weeks and spun a bearing a took bottom end out.

Had it rebuild but now cant start it with out listening for knocks etc...

Rebuild it if you can afford it with upgraded parts.

Scoobyblues 23 July 2013 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by Jacko4130 (Post 11157891)
I had the same problem, Had my car 7 weeks and spun a bearing a took bottom end out.

Had it rebuild but now cant start it with out listening for knocks etc...

Rebuild it if you can afford it with upgraded parts.

Im exactly the same Jack lol

edsel 23 July 2013 09:06 PM

I'm in the same boat, bought a classic sti last year and by the time I got it home it sounded like a kerb drill.
Unless you want ridiculous amounts of power I wouldnt bother with a kit. You can save money by using new age sti rods (capable of 400 bhp) mahle pistons fast road pistons etc.
Talk to Paul at www.finchmotorsport.co.uk He'll advise you and build you a top quality motor. The attention to detail and quality of the engine builder is more important than high spec parts.

jimboscooby 23 July 2013 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by scooby 887 (Post 11157809)
had this happen to me last month drove it home then went out in it the next day. i did 15 miles and the bottom end went Tim of Subbus is rebuilding it as we speak i've also gone with the sti9 bottom end rebuilt with ACL bearings uprated head gaskets etc. it's a real pain but worth it in the long run i hope you get it sorted mate

Ah so it's yours he's doing at the moment. It was Tim who came and diagnosed it. That's the route I think I'll go down too. Cheers, I hope I can get it sorted soon too. At least I'll have a few weeks to save up some money while he does yours! :hjtwofing

jimboscooby 23 July 2013 09:39 PM

Wow!!! Seems like a lot of people are as unlucky as me. It's just one of those things I guess but at least as Osimabu says, at least I'll know it's healthy when it's done.
I suppose it could be worse. Can't wait to get her back on the road but I know what you guys are saying, I'll be listening out for every little noise from now on!!
Cheers for all the positive words people!! She'll be back. Better and stronger!!!!!

Busterbulldog 23 July 2013 09:51 PM

Lots of good reasons above to keep an eye on them engine oil levels guys. It happened to me years ago with my P1,after the rebuild and re.running in it overheated as soon as I gave it some turbo and then needed new heads too.

bugblue1 23 July 2013 11:34 PM

that bad luck,but least you have a top bloke & subaru mechanic on the case tim is eceptional at what he does.good luck

Leon1 25 July 2013 12:09 PM

This happened with me not in an impreza but an evo drove 350 miles home. Take it out the next day and BANG. Had the engine replaced at the cost of 2500 and a few days later it spun a shell on the new engine.

Bought a classic impreza and am pretty scared to drive it!

Dave Y 25 July 2013 12:32 PM

Its called Subaru Paranoia
We all get it.Even a change in road surface will bring on a panic attack

Ciaran 25 July 2013 12:34 PM

It can be down to lack of maintenance or pure bad luck. Touch would I am yet to have a failure. Bought my P1 with a failed engine and currently being built into a 500bhp weapon

Reshard1977 25 July 2013 01:02 PM

Jim, i'm gutted for you mate.

Since your doing a rebuild, might be worth throwing in an oil sump baffle plate from RCM, I've heard they can help reduce the risk of bottom end failure. How true that is, I don't know, but, out of caution, I've bought one!

tony de wonderful 25 July 2013 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Jacko4130 (Post 11157891)

Had it rebuild but now cant start it with out listening for knocks etc...
.

I think that's the case with most car enthusiasts. The slightest rattle or tap beings on a cold sweat.:lol1:

jimboscooby 25 July 2013 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by Reshard1977 (Post 11159401)
Jim, i'm gutted for you mate.

Since your doing a rebuild, might be worth throwing in an oil sump baffle plate from RCM, I've heard they can help reduce the risk of bottom end failure. How true that is, I don't know, but, out of caution, I've bought one!

Sounds like a plan!!! I'll look into that but if it helps its gotta be worth it!!!
Where abouts in london are you by the way? You dont drive through tower hill much do you? Saw one like yours there last week i think it was??

jimboscooby 25 July 2013 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Ciaran (Post 11159383)
It can be down to lack of maintenance or pure bad luck. Touch would I am yet to have a failure. Bought my P1 with a failed engine and currently being built into a 500bhp weapon

Sounds like it'll be lively when your done!! Whos doing your build and what spec are you going for??

MartynJ 25 July 2013 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by carpeys (Post 11157873)
hi all when doing a rebuild why is it necessary to have a new crankshaft , why cant they be reground like on any other engine

Because the case hardening is so thin they won't take a grind !


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