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dpb 29 June 2013 09:49 AM

That's a great message to send out
 
You total waste of space



http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/r...ping-armstrong

GotBoost? 29 June 2013 10:06 AM

well, it's the truth.

GotBoost? 29 June 2013 10:07 AM

(on world class level like the TdF, 100 m dash,... fwiw)

ritchie21 29 June 2013 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by GotBoost? (Post 11135365)
well, it's the truth.

I'd like to put you in a room with Sir Bradley Wiggins and see you repeat that comment!

romford-boy 29 June 2013 10:17 AM

As Wiggins says: "I don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth anymore"

dpb 29 June 2013 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by GotBoost? (Post 11135366)
(on world class level like the TdF, 100 m dash,... fwiw)

So maybe they should supply every one with the same dope at the start line

Just to even things up. :rolleyes:

tony de wonderful 29 June 2013 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by GotBoost? (Post 11135365)
well, it's the truth.

You probably can't be a hit man without killing people, doesn't make it ok.

GotBoost? 29 June 2013 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by ritchie21 (Post 11135372)
I'd like to put you in a room with Sir Bradley Wiggins and see you repeat that comment!

i would, and he would silently know i was right. but i don't want to destroy you're dreams. I admit that I, too, once did believe that WWF was real.

And regarding the hit man comparison: this is not about ethics or moral standards, but reality.

Blue by You 29 June 2013 12:39 PM

If you can't win without cheating then it's quite simple, you are not good enough.
End of.

GotBoost? 29 June 2013 01:14 PM

Wrong. It's still the best athlete who wins. It's just a matter of levelling out the playing field. Think of a car race where everyone is restricted to 2.0 l engines, but in fact everyone has a tuned 2.5 l engine. Everybody cheats, but in the end it's still the best driver who wins the race. Of course, from time to time some poor fella will get caught, maybe because he lacks the political influence or protection from sponsors who pay millions to the FIA, or because he pissed on the leg of one of the top drivers, or maybe because he was walking through the pits bragging how tuned his engine was. But all the other guys are pretty safe.

SJ_Skyline 29 June 2013 01:15 PM

Have you tried cycling on drugs? I did and I kept falling off... ;)

alistair 29 June 2013 01:20 PM

I think he's right - everyone was doing it and he couldn't have won without it.

Things may be different now & Sir Bradley may well be cleaner than clean.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing & just doing what everyone else did always looks bad after the event, even though it seemed OK at the time - ask a 2007 Mortgage Broker, a LIBOR Banker or Stuart Hall.......

Blue by You 29 June 2013 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by GotBoost? (Post 11135499)
Wrong. It's still the best athlete who wins. It's just a matter of levelling out the playing field. Think of a car race where everyone is restricted to 2.0 l engines, but in fact everyone has a tuned 2.5 l engine. Everybody cheats, but in the end it's still the best driver who wins the race. Of course, from time to time some poor fella will get caught, maybe because he lacks the political influence or protection from sponsors who pay millions to the FIA, or because he pissed on the leg of one of the top drivers, or maybe because he was walking through the pits bragging how tuned his engine was. But all the other guys are pretty safe.

So what you're saying is that all the atheletes take drugs, and only one got found out :cuckoo: :lol1:
What a load of cobblers.

tony de wonderful 29 June 2013 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by GotBoost? (Post 11135499)
Wrong. It's still the best athlete who wins. It's just a matter of levelling out the playing field. Think of a car race where everyone is restricted to 2.0 l engines, but in fact everyone has a tuned 2.5 l engine. Everybody cheats, but in the end it's still the best driver who wins the race. Of course, from time to time some poor fella will get caught, maybe because he lacks the political influence or protection from sponsors who pay millions to the FIA, or because he pissed on the leg of one of the top drivers, or maybe because he was walking through the pits bragging how tuned his engine was. But all the other guys are pretty safe.

Differential access to doping technologies depending upon how much money you have. Lance was allegedly even able to keep the best stuff for himself in the team. Dr Ferrari only took the high $$$ clients.

GotBoost? 29 June 2013 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Blue by You (Post 11135515)
So what you're saying is that all the atheletes take drugs, and only one got found out :cuckoo: :lol1:
What a load of cobblers.

You're entitled your own opinion :thumb: But maybe you want to ask yourself why Bernhard Kohl was only convicted once although he was tested 200+ times and he himself admitted that he was on drugs while giving those samples. Or why Lance Armstrong has never tested positive (except 1999, but that's another story).

Trust me, I know how this system works. Sad but true :(

alistair 29 June 2013 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Blue by You (Post 11135515)
So what you're saying is that all the atheletes take drugs, and only one got found out :cuckoo: :lol1:
What a load of cobblers.

Not athletes - just cyclists - and back a few years

Did you actually read the article - or look at the graph :eek:

Blue by You 29 June 2013 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by GotBoost? (Post 11135517)
You're entitled your own opinion :thumb: But maybe you want to ask yourself why Bernhard Kohl was only convicted once although he was tested 200+ times and he himself admitted that he was on drugs while giving those samples. Or why Lance Armstrong has never tested positive (except 1999, but that's another story).

Trust me, I know how this system works. Sad but true :(

I do find it a little hard to believe what that you are suggesting has any credibility.
But if you have personal insider knowledge or experience then that would shed a different light on your statement:thumb:

f1_fan 29 June 2013 03:20 PM

Stupid sport followed by the incredibly gullible.

Bubba po 29 June 2013 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 11135585)
Stupid sport followed by the incredibly gullible.

Totally unlike F1. :)

gpssti4 29 June 2013 05:41 PM

It was pandemic in cycling a few years ago, even 10 years ago.

The whole sport is a lot cleaner now but by no means has doping been eradicated. Whole teams were promoting it but I think that changed somewhat.

To say that you have to dope to win is bollocks.

Cycling is probably the cleanest it's ever been, so it's much more of a level playing field than before. You just need to look at the times they're doing the big climbs in, i.e. longer than before, to prove it.

GotBoost? 29 June 2013 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Blue by You (Post 11135577)
But if you have personal insider knowledge or experience then that would shed a different light on your statement:thumb:

I have.

dpb 29 June 2013 05:56 PM

You need a boost to get to within shouting distance?

dpb 30 June 2013 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Bubba po (Post 11135597)
Totally unlike F1. :)

Have to say today's F1 race was actually worth watching. ..:eek:

More entertaining than the tour, except yesterday maybe when that bus got trapped on the finsh line :o

Turbohot 30 June 2013 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline (Post 11135502)
Have you tried cycling on drugs? I did and I kept falling off... ;)

:lol1:

tony de wonderful 30 June 2013 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11136588)
Have to say today's F1 race was actually worth watching. ..:eek:

I suggest all F1 races could be made exciting by putting 4 random duff tyres in the tyre pool for each race :lol1:.

Peedee 30 June 2013 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 11135585)
Stupid sport followed by the incredibly gullible.

Of all the 13,005 dumb comments that you've written over the years, that rates pretty highly among the dumbest of the dumb! I'm interested to know what you actually base that statement on?

In regards to drug taking in any sport, as already stated above, if you have to take drugs, you ain't good enough. How Lance Armstrong can say what he said is ridiculous. Someone HAS to win, simple as that. If you dont take drugs and don't win, its a simple case of being beaten by a better person. There's plenty of completely clean world champions, who, funnily enough, have beaten off all the competition.....by being quicker / fitter / better than them through putting in the hours and hard work, not taking drugs, plain and simple.

Peedee 30 June 2013 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 11136610)
I suggest all F1 races could be made exciting by putting 4 random duff tyres in the tyre pool for each race :lol1:.

Ha actually a good idea!! :thumb:

f1_fan 01 July 2013 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Peedee (Post 11136616)
Of all the 13,005 dumb comments that you've written over the years, that rates pretty highly among the dumbest of the dumb! I'm interested to know what you actually base that statement on?

Er... have you been on Planet Earth for the last 20 years and watched one cyclist after another test positive for banned substances? Why follow a sport so corrupt and hero worship cheats unless you are a gullible tw4t? Hope that explains it in words you can understand. If not let me know and I will write it Ladybird book style so you can maybe get it :thumb:

P.S. Glad to know you have read all 13000 plus comments I have made.... you are indeed a prize stalker amongst other things

Peedee 01 July 2013 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 11136755)
Er... have you been on Planet Earth for the last 20 years and watched one cyclist after another test positive for banned substances? Why follow a sport so corrupt and hero worship cheats unless you are a gullible tw4t? Hope that explains it in words you can understand. If not let me know and I will write it Ladybird book style so you can maybe get it :thumb:

P.S. Glad to know you have read all 13000 plus comments I have made.... you are indeed a prize stalker amongst other things

And how is that different to any other sport? The are drug takers / dopers etc in every sport, not just cycling, its just a case of whether those sportsmen / women get away with it and whether it ends up in the news or not. No doubt there are 'current' high-profile sports stars in ALL sports that are cheating through using drugs etc, so does that make every one of those different sports rubbish or just followed by gullible tw4ts?. No.

I've no doubt your just some overweight 40-something that has never had any interest (or been good at) any sport whatsoever (I'm guessing you were probably bullied at school for being a fatty aswell?), unless it involves letting a machine or animal do all the work? Perhaps if you had competed in some sort of physical sport you would understand, but then again, that would have made you a "gullible tw4t" because you would have been interested in it!!

P.S, your comment count is just underneath you name, and secondly, everything that I've seen you type is complete and utter sh1te, so its not too hard to guess that all 13,000 odd posts are along the same lines!

f1_fan 02 July 2013 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Peedee (Post 11136922)
And how is that different to any other sport? The are drug takers / dopers etc in every sport, not just cycling, its just a case of whether those sportsmen / women get away with it and whether it ends up in the news or not. No doubt there are 'current' high-profile sports stars in ALL sports that are cheating through using drugs etc, so does that make every one of those different sports rubbish or just followed by gullible tw4ts?. No.

I am struggling to find any sport where anywhere near as many competitors have been found to be using banned substances as cycling and in fact I can't think of any in motorsport at all so that statement is just utter nonsense!


Originally Posted by Peedee (Post 11136922)
I've no doubt your just some overweight 40-something that has never had any interest (or been good at) any sport whatsoever (I'm guessing you were probably bullied at school for being a fatty aswell?), unless it involves letting a machine or animal do all the work? Perhaps if you had competed in some sort of physical sport you would understand, but then again, that would have made you a "gullible tw4t" because you would have been interested in it!!

:lol: LOL at you and your guessing games... and anyway how does my prowess at sport or my weight come to that have any effect on whether cycling is a clean sport and worthy of being watched or not.... you accuse me of posting sh1te and yet I am expected to see your efforts as anything but. You. my sad little friend are a Grade A hypocrite! I also wonder why you bother reading them too.... weird really!

Now if you want to watch a sport that celebrates cheats then that is up to you, but IMO says a lot about your character!


Originally Posted by Peedee (Post 11136922)
P.S, your comment count is just underneath you name, and secondly, everything that I've seen you type is complete and utter sh1te, so its not too hard to guess that all 13,000 odd posts are along the same lines!

Ah so your post presented as fact you now admit is conjecture.... says it all really :cuckoo:


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