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Philip Allanby 25 June 2013 11:45 PM

2.0lt into 2.5 hatch any one done it
 
Hi Just re joined Scoobynet after a long time of and have just picked up a 58 reg hatch with a shot engine but have a jdm sti8 engine and all bits ie loom etc. what is the best way to fit use the 2.5 loom and re map ecu or use sti8s
ecu engine loom etc ????

Thanks Phil

nyscooby 25 June 2013 11:59 PM

Anything is possible....

Alan Jeffery 26 June 2013 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Philip Allanby (Post 11132106)
Hi Just re joined Scoobynet after a long time of and have just picked up a 58 reg hatch with a shot engine but have a jdm sti8 engine and all bits ie loom etc. what is the best way to fit use the 2.5 loom and re map ecu or use sti8s
ecu engine loom etc ????

Thanks Phil

It's possible to do it, but the management systems have a number of differences, just one being the fact of dual AVCS. You'd be better off either forging the 2.5 or using an EJ22 stroker.
It would be a pity to devalue the car with a bodge.
We've fixed a good many of these, and they stay fixed.

B4D HK 26 June 2013 11:26 AM

I knew a chap who fitted a uk 2.0 into a uk 2.5 hawk

So i cant see why it cant be done :)

The Trooper 1815 26 June 2013 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Philip Allanby (Post 11132106)
Hi Just re joined Scoobynet after a long time of and have just picked up a 58 reg hatch with a shot engine but have a jdm sti8 engine and all bits ie loom etc. what is the best way to fit use the 2.5 loom and re map ecu or use sti8s
ecu engine loom etc ????

Thanks Phil

Buy a JDM Hatch :D.

Alan Jeffery 26 June 2013 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by B4D HK (Post 11132332)
I knew a chap who fitted a uk 2.0 into a uk 2.5 hawk

So i cant see why it cant be done :)

Being fair, I didn't say it couldn't be done, I just said it may not be a good idea.
The Devil is in the detail!

kennyc 26 June 2013 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815 (Post 11132366)
Buy a JDM Hatch :D.

Easier said than done :norty:

ditchmyster 26 June 2013 02:16 PM

Just bolt the 2.0 litre bottom end on to the 2.5 heads.;)

Jobs a good un.:thumb:

banny sti 26 June 2013 02:32 PM

Cant do that Ditch the combusion chamber on the 2.5 head is too big ;)

MattyB1983 26 June 2013 02:36 PM

What about if he changed the management.

The Pink Ninja 26 June 2013 04:39 PM

Wouldn't be cost effective I don't think Matty as it would still need heads and an ecu that can control dual avcs, Best option IMO is either refresh the knackered one or drop a complete 2.0l in inc heads and then sell on the dual avcs ones to recoup some cash.

ditchmyster 26 June 2013 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by banny sti (Post 11132490)
Cant do that Ditch the combusion chamber on the 2.5 head is too big ;)

Spoil sport.:(

Could he get a JDM long engine with dual avcs? and would he then need the ecu and loom or not?

or some really fat gaskets.:lol1: doh or thin ones.

MattyB1983 26 June 2013 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by GAZ2293 (Post 11132586)
Wouldn't be cost effective I don't think Matty as it would still need heads and an ecu that can control dual avcs, Best option IMO is either refresh the knackered one or drop a complete 2.0l in inc heads and then sell on the dual avcs ones to recoup some cash.

I read it as if the op had a complete sti8 long engine.
Could he not just drop that in and add a second hand syvecs ??

ditchmyster 26 June 2013 05:38 PM

OoPPs, note to self read the OP properly.

Surly shirley if you have all the relevant parts it's just a case of time.

I'd fit the full engine and I doubt the loom etc would take much figuring out if you have both/everything required sat in front of you.

P.s wires don't scare me, I was a auto accessory installation technician for 20 odd yrs.:D

jazzyjembreaze 26 June 2013 06:14 PM

OP hasn't stated the damage to his 2.5
( knackered ) as in ?
Cost efficiency , time , ease , & expense
All play there part in this scenario :)

Philip Allanby 26 June 2013 11:37 PM

Hi thanks for the replys.I was just asking If the 2.0lt sti engine would work as I have
a complete sti 8 to use as a doner if so

jura11 26 June 2013 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by banny sti (Post 11132490)
Cant do that Ditch the combusion chamber on the 2.5 head is too big ;)

Can be done,but he(OP) will needs send heads over to USA or maybe someone over here doing this

But here is this company from USA

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1942615

Jura


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11132612)
Spoil sport.:(

Could he get a JDM long engine with dual avcs? and would he then need the ecu and loom or not?

or some really fat gaskets.:lol1: doh or thin ones.

JDM hatchback using same/similar dual AVCS this means he can use his ECU and he will don't need any kind of the loom

Jura

juggers 27 June 2013 12:53 AM

Why not just forge the engine and go down the stroker route?

ditchmyster 27 June 2013 05:45 AM

jura11;11133089]Can be done,but he(OP) will needs send heads over to USA or maybe someone over here doing this


But here is this company from USA

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1942615

Jura
The way I read that is they are turning 2.0L heads into 2.5L heads.



JDM hatchback using same/similar dual AVCS this means he can use his ECU and he will don't need any kind of the loom

Jura


So he can in effect just drop the 2.0L JDM long engine in and remap.

Shaun 27 June 2013 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11132612)
Could he get a JDM long engine with dual avcs? and would he then need the ecu and loom or not?

You've got more chance of me sucking your **** than finding a dual AVCS JDM engine to buy!

Shaun 27 June 2013 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by juggers (Post 11133124)
Why not just forge the engine and go down the stroker route?

What........ stroke his 2.5? :freak3: :D

ditchmyster 28 June 2013 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 11134027)
You've got more chance of me sucking your **** than finding a dual AVCS JDM engine to buy!

Pucker up beeatch.:lol1:

Shaun 28 June 2013 09:45 AM

:eek:

Worlasshasansti 28 June 2013 02:26 PM

So can the op stick his 2.0 lump in once he finds out which loom to use or which bits to splice together, then just run the avcs heads with aftermarket management?

Sounds to me like he's wanting to get the motor running using the bits he has without spending 1000's on rebuilds/forging which is fair enough.

Not everyone has 3-5k to throw at a forged motor lol

Mick

Philip Allanby 28 June 2013 07:20 PM

You hit the nail on the head, my thought was why spend money if you have loads of bits
I pulled the sump of the 2.5 and the 2 centre big ends have about 1 to 1.5 mm of play
so think the crank will be shot
Phil

Philip Allanby 20 July 2013 11:23 PM

Ok job done so far so good, I needed the ramp so had to get it done so
got stuckin striped both engines to blocks and swapped all the 2.5 inlet and and any thing that i could over to the 2.0 then put it back in the car
turned the key and its a go. Got the check engine light on but thought it would be with no ex cam timeing and no engine warmup motor thing
so a phone call or 2 on monday to see who can map out the bugs
then stainless exhaust and a few little bits and bobs and good to go
Phil

Artoir 21 July 2013 12:28 AM

So it lives?

juggers 21 July 2013 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 11134033)
What........ stroke his 2.5? :freak3: :D

No i mean 2.3! haha :D

ditchmyster 21 July 2013 12:14 PM

See I told you it would be easy, just time.:thumb:

Philip Allanby 21 July 2013 07:04 PM

Yep it lives http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...ps56f5983c.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...ps293211c0.jpg
Phil


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