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GIBZY 24 April 2013 09:28 PM

Braking issues. New pads and Discs
 
Installed a set of new pads and discs from godspeed yesterday.

under normal braking (around town they are fine) but braking slowly from motorway speeds there is a mass of vibration through the steering wheel.

Any guess as what maybe at fault.

Shaun

Godspeed Brakes 24 April 2013 09:59 PM

Did you clean off the hubs of any rust or dust so the disc is sitting perfectly , are all the pistons free in the calipers ? If the calipers are not working right they can overheat the discs and warp them.
It could be pad deposits , what mileage have you done on them , have they been bedded in fully ?
You can call down for me to look at them if your stuck as your local
Cheers Ian

GIBZY 24 April 2013 10:11 PM

Hi Ian, I have just sent you an email. but i will clear up on here for you aswell

The hubs were cleaned prior to fitting
All but one of the pistons are clear for movement, i think one of them was f**ked up by a previous garage messing about with a piston (potentially seized)
Mileage has been minimal (less than 30) as i didint want to do any long term damage to a new set of pads / discs.

What time are you open until on friday and Saturday?

Thanks

Shaun

bustaMOVEs 24 April 2013 10:20 PM

Ian, I thought you warrant your discs from warping even on trackdays?

Godspeed Brakes 24 April 2013 10:21 PM

6am to 6pm Friday , and 9 till 12 Saturday , the sticky piston will probably be the fault and needs sorting straight away before it damages the disc
Cheers Ian

GIBZY 24 April 2013 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by Godspeed Brakes (Post 11069572)
6am to 6pm Friday , and 9 till 12 Saturday , the sticky piston will probably be the fault and needs sorting straight away before it damages the disc
Cheers Ian

Thanks Ian. I'll let you read the email i have sent you and we can have a chat tomorrow to discuss options.

Many thanks

Shaun

Godspeed Brakes 24 April 2013 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11069571)
Ian, I thought you warrant your discs from warping even on trackdays?

Yes we do , but if there is a fault that causes the warping like a sticking caliper we do not cover this ,

bustaMOVEs 24 April 2013 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by Godspeed Brakes (Post 11069580)
Yes we do , but if there is a fault that causes the warping like a sticking caliper we do not cover this ,

Won't they get just as hot on trackdays? Gibzy only done 30 miles with probably a sticky caliper.

Could it be the grooves making noises when pushed lightly on motorway speeds aswell that's causing more noise and rumble/warped

Godspeed Brakes 24 April 2013 10:36 PM

He has said on email he has a seized caliper , which will overheat the discs as its like driving with your brakes constantly on , and worse on a brand new disc that hasn't been bedded in yet , it is nothing like using a perfectly working car on a track day.

We do offer guarantees on our discs , but the car has to be working properly in the first place , would you expect me to keep supplying free discs for a year to someone with seized calipers that keeps warping them due to them over heating ??

ken-sti 24 April 2013 10:50 PM

I've had nothing but good things to say about the disc's I got from Godspeed. One problem I had was I used a Oem brake pads on the rear and they were slightly too long to slot nice and free down into the caliper, this case the pad to stick in against the disc and was getting very hot, I thought it was a caliper until I had a good look at the pad and took it out and grinded down the edge a bit and solved the problem. only my 2 cents mightn't help you out but worth noting. . .

GIBZY 26 April 2013 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Godspeed Brakes (Post 11069596)
He has said on email he has a seized caliper , which will overheat the discs as its like driving with your brakes constantly on , and worse on a brand new disc that hasn't been bedded in yet , it is nothing like using a perfectly working car on a track day.

We do offer guarantees on our discs , but the car has to be working properly in the first place , would you expect me to keep supplying free discs for a year to someone with seized calipers that keeps warping them due to them over heating ??

Just to clarify i have not asked for a free set of discs off of Ian. :confused:

Plus i have now bought a new set of pistons to fit on Monday. Should there be a problem with the discs potentially warping after this short period of time with limited use at low speeds??? I should hope not.

Godspeed Brakes 26 April 2013 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by GIBZY (Post 11071438)
Just to clarify i have not asked for a free set of discs off of Ian. :confused:

Plus i have now bought a new set of pistons to fit on Monday. Should there be a problem with the discs potentially warping after this short period of time with limited use at low speeds??? I should hope not.

Sorry should have made it clear that it wasn't you asking for free discs , I mentioned that as an example regarding our guarantee .

Pistons and seals were sent out today , if you get stuck fitting them or need to know anything give me a ring

Cheers Ian

alcazar 26 April 2013 08:22 PM

Ian will know better than me, but I'd have thought that yes, any disc can be warped in short time by a sticking piston.

Even only thirty miles, driving with one pad constantly touching...?

You see what I mean?

GIBZY 26 April 2013 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 11071614)
Ian will know better than me, but I'd have thought that yes, any disc can be warped in short time by a sticking piston.

Even only thirty miles, driving with one pad constantly touching...?

You see what I mean?

I know what you mean. Im going to be so mad if i find out that it has warped though.

ALi-B 26 April 2013 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by GIBZY (Post 11071438)
Should there be a problem with the discs potentially warping after this short period of time with limited use at low speeds??? I should hope not.

The problem is because after driving around, even at low speeds, at the end of your journey you come to a standstill with red hot brakes (well on the wheel with the sticking caliper, at least).

This can cause imprinting with uneven pad deposits on the disc and uneven hardening of the disc surface where the hot pad is clamped onto the part of the disc whilst the other part is in free air to cool.

GIBZY 26 April 2013 08:30 PM

Oh Feck, i may have just pissed £120 worth of discs up the wall. Nice !!1

I think i will be putting the old discs back on tomorrow, cant afford to f**k these discs up before having the pistons changed.

Godspeed Brakes 26 April 2013 09:07 PM

if the worst case it has warped the disc , I can true it back up with a light skim so its not a problem

GIBZY 26 April 2013 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by Godspeed Brakes (Post 11071671)
if the worst case it has warped the disc , I can true it back up with a light skim so its not a problem

Your an angel :thumb::thumb:

zayd 27 April 2013 01:07 AM

That's why I buy all my braking parts from Ian!

JohnnyDavies 27 April 2013 07:36 PM

Bustamoves move on!!
 
Bustamoves why is it on every thread involving brakes you try to put Ian and his products down?????? If you have an issue with Ian/Godspeed sort it out get a life and move on.. There are loads of people on here that are more than happy with godspeed brakes so why on every thread do you feel the need to put them down????

bustaMOVEs 27 April 2013 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by JohnnyDavies (Post 11072476)
Bustamoves why is it on every thread involving brakes you try to put Ian and his products down?????? If you have an issue with Ian/Godspeed sort it out get a life and move on.. There are loads of people on here that are more than happy with godspeed brakes so why on every thread do you feel the need to put them down????

Read my posts clearly, I've not put nobody down, I'm putting the wrx caliper down compared to the Brembo route.
Ok it works for some (like yourself) but again, everyone one drives diffrent and have diffrent expectations.
Unlike you I've tried this brake changing game and only the brembos work with right set up IMO.(depends how hard you drive and for long periods of time)

I don't want to bring all this up again as I've said what I think, it's upto you to make the final decisions on what you do.

Good speed seems to have a good rep on here, so I don't see how I could bring him down. I just answer an op post and it goes from there. All my posts are my opinion of course. I'm entitled that.

Yes I've had the 335kit in the past and they wasn't for me, as Ian suggested I'm the 'hardest' driver :confused:
But to me it was the caliper that couldn't handle the long heat temps.

The end!

JohnnyDavies 27 April 2013 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11072599)
Read my posts clearly, I've not put nobody down, I'm putting the wrx caliper down compared to the Brembo route.
Ok it works for some (like yourself) but again, everyone one drives diffrent and have diffrent expectations.
Unlike you I've tried this brake changing game and only the brembos work with right set up IMO.(depends how hard you drive and for long periods of time)

I don't want to bring all this up again as I've said what I think, it's upto you to make the final decisions on what you do.

Good speed seems to have a good rep on here, so I don't see how I could bring him down. I just answer an op post and it goes from there. All my posts are my opinion of course. I'm entitled that.

Yes I've had the 335kit in the past and they wasn't for me, as Ian suggested I'm the 'hardest' driver :confused:
But to me it was the caliper that couldn't handle the long heat temps.

The end!

Fair enough I have read a couple of your posts on here and taken them the wrong way, if you want to offer unbiased advise then thats your right! For me on the road the 335kit works very well. If you want to use a car on a track then surely a track car is the way forward?? Not an impreza??

bustaMOVEs 27 April 2013 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by JohnnyDavies (Post 11072643)
Fair enough I have read a couple of your posts on here and taken them the wrong way, if you want to offer unbiased advise then thats your right! For me on the road the 335kit works very well. If you want to use a car on a track then surely a track car is the way forward?? Not an impreza??

Nope, the brembos work very well on track with right set up and in a impreza :thumb:


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