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Spe1973 25 January 2013 05:30 PM

Any help
 
Hi all,got a prodrive ecu 00/99 for my classic same year, was told it was just plug and play but after plugging in the prodrive ecu the engine just turns over with out starting, do I need any codes or have I missed something

Spe1973 25 January 2013 07:02 PM

Just been told it came out of a s reg prodrive but is compatable with my 2000

stedee 25 January 2013 07:27 PM

Is yours a UK or import

Spe1973 25 January 2013 07:32 PM

Uk

Spe1973 26 January 2013 10:42 AM

Still no wiser guys, surely somebody on here's been in the same position

zippy! 26 January 2013 11:08 AM

Some s reg cars came with the older engine and some came with the new version with coilpack on the right just because it came out of same reg does not mean it is same engine so could still be wrong ecu for yours hope this helps :thumb:

Spe1973 26 January 2013 11:13 AM

Cheers zippy, just seems weird how all the plugs fit perfect and turns over, plus the alarm still works but the key pad in the glove box don't,could the prodrive ecu need resetting to my car

zippy! 26 January 2013 11:19 AM

Possibly mate best person to ask would be someone like a mapper or Allan Jeffries :thumb:

Spe1973 26 January 2013 11:21 AM

I was hoping one of them would answer me on this one pal.thanks anyway

zippy! 26 January 2013 11:27 AM

Put a post up with the title f a o a mapper ecu help for a better response that way as it is more specific and in there area of expertise or private message them directly they are always very happy to help :thumb:

Spe1973 26 January 2013 11:31 AM

I posted in this section due to it being about engine management but I can relate to what your saying mate

Bob Rawle 28 January 2013 09:31 PM

Sounds like the Prodrive ecu is the problem the hardware should be/is identical, its only the rom file thats different. If your original works and the replacement doesn't the replacement is the problem and is faulty

cheers

bob

toneh 28 January 2013 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by Bob Rawle (Post 10965460)
Sounds like the Prodrive ecu is the problem the hardware should be/is identical, its only the rom file thats different. If your original works and the replacement doesn't the replacement is the problem and is faulty

cheers

bob

Hi bob
We are confused with conflicting info ( not hard )
From what we've been told
99/00 do not have coded ecu's
97/98 do
His car is 00 and we have a feeling the ecu is 98
Because the 00 doesn't have a coded ecu does that mean you can use a 98 coded ecu without the need to have the transponder chip done in the key

Bob Rawle 28 January 2013 09:54 PM

Hi,

If the car is MY99-00 its not coded, nor are the MY97-98's either I regularly swap ecu's around in cars. The ecu is fed a "turn on" signal from an external immobiliser unit it has no transponder in it. Only new age ecu's (MY01) onwards need to be coded to keys in that way.

A MY98 ecu will not fit or run a MY99 or MY00 car.

Don't forget how model years run, so a MY00 is from September 1999 to August 2000
A MY99 is from September 1998 to August 1999.
Just cos a car is registered in late 1998 does not make it a MY98 car iyswim. Its a MY99.

To be clear though what is the applied model code from the VIN plate and I will tell you exactly what the car is/was.

cheers

bob

toneh 28 January 2013 10:16 PM

Cheers bob , I'll pass the info on tomorrow ( I work with the op )
I'm personally not 100% sure of the year of his car , just that its 99/00
But the fleabay description says , prodrive blah blah to fit 98 - 01
All I know is its a three plug same as his and he's plugged it in and it just cranked over so I take it even if it the same plug , a 98 ecu won't necessarily work in a 99/00 regardless of coding ?

toneh 29 January 2013 12:51 PM

Can now confirm the car is 00 going by the vin
And we are under the understanding the ecu from 97/98 car
The ecu is 3 plug as per the cars original ecu
So is this a no go full stop or would it be an ecu fault
The ecu p/n is 1001071011 - a18/000/d3h

Any help appreciated chaps

scoobyricht 29 January 2013 01:53 PM

97/98 ecu will not plug into a 99/00 car, the plugs are different shapes. What colour are the sockets on the ECU? yellow would match with a 97/98 ecu and 99/00 are black. you say 3 plug but does the ecu actually have 4 plug sockets? what cose is on the original ecu?

toneh 29 January 2013 02:09 PM

It's been plugged in mate , both ecu,s are 3 plug and the same plug
I've posted the ecu code above
We are only going from the seller that its a 98 ecu because that's what he said it was from

jason_2013 29 January 2013 06:01 PM

possibility 1 - The cars a ringer and is actually a jap car with uk identity
possibility 2 - It's a jap ecu with a uk ecu cover on it.
possibilty 3 - The ecu's dead
possibilty 4 - Do Prodrive remap Jap spec ecu's?

Try swapping the cam and crank sensor + signal wires over and bypass the fuel pump relay to see if it then starts.

The ecu code is incomplete, whats the big 2 digit code and the ae 800/801/802 number?

Spe1973 29 January 2013 06:07 PM

This is everything that's on the new ecu... 10001071011. A18-000 D3H. OZ11, reads sti SP in pink

toneh 29 January 2013 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by jason_2013 (Post 10966599)
possibility 1 - The cars a ringer and is actually a jap car with uk identity
possibility 2 - It's a jap ecu with a uk ecu cover on it.
possibilty 3 - The ecu's dead
possibilty 4 - Do Prodrive remap Jap spec ecu's?

Try swapping the cam and crank sensor + signal wires over and bypass the fuel pump relay to see if it then starts.

The ecu code is incomplete, whats the big 2 digit code and the ae 800/801/802 number?

I'm not with you at all with this mate
It's an 00 turbo 2000 , and the stock ecu that's in the car is the correct ecu for that car

3 x 32 pin plugs

Which if I understand correctly is the correct config for that year and model

The ecu purchased that is intended to be fitted to the car is also the same plug / pin config

I've no idea what you're going on about , ringer , jap or otherwise
Other than confusing the issue

toneh 29 January 2013 06:32 PM

Can someone clarify that it definitely doesn't need coding
Once that's clear it can only be two options
Dead ecu
Jap ecu ( really need to identify it )

toneh 29 January 2013 06:42 PM

This is the ecu in question , obviously we can only go on the case at this moment in time ,
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5d3467bd.jpg

scoobyricht 29 January 2013 07:17 PM

Jap ecus and uk ecus have the same plugs and number of pins but the pin out is slightly different. On 98 the cam, crank and fuel relay are different. Does the pump prime when ignition is switched on? does it have spark when turning over?

scoobyricht 29 January 2013 07:29 PM

go a little deeper and open it up, post a pic of the board and the numbers on the chips, give a better idea and possibly identify if it is what it says on the tin.

toneh 29 January 2013 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyricht (Post 10966713)
Jap ecus and uk ecus have the same plugs and number of pins but the pin out is slightly different. On 98 the cam, crank and fuel relay are different. Does the pump prime when ignition is switched on? does it have spark when turning over?

I've not looked yet mate , I know about the jap pinout swap
Really could do with finding out what this is

toneh 29 January 2013 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyricht (Post 10966734)
go a little deeper and open it up, post a pic of the board and the numbers on the chips, give a better idea and possibly identify if it is what it says on the tin.

Might have to mate
I can't find anything relating to any of those code numbers

toneh 29 January 2013 08:15 PM

Here's the inside
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7ad1780a.jpg
Btw , the chap that sold the ecu said he took it out of his car that is a uk model

jason_2013 29 January 2013 08:45 PM

You know people lie on eBay right?

toneh 29 January 2013 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by jason_2013 (Post 10966923)
You know people lie on eBay right?

Err , yeah hence the reason it would help identify what this is
, and also there is no saying its not been mapped ( doubtful )
But you never know


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