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MartynJ 26 May 2013 11:27 AM

No need to go bigger, go stronger.
Cosworth 11mm 260,000 psi studs should do you fine and save you the cost of all of the machining work.

RICHARD J 26 May 2013 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by MartynJ (Post 11100801)
No need to go bigger, go stronger.
Cosworth 11mm 260,000 psi studs should do you fine and save you the cost of all of the machining work.

Martyn, I was told that the Cosworth studs were just rebranded ARPs. Is this not the case, are they a far superior product?

MartynJ 26 May 2013 03:00 PM

The stock ARP head stud set is rated to 180,000 psi, the Cosworth or ARP H11 studs are rated to 260,000 psi.
IIRC that's what Clive Madhammer uses on his drag car.

RICHARD J 26 May 2013 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by MartynJ (Post 11100901)
The stock ARP head stud set is rated to 180,000 psi, the Cosworth or ARP H11 studs are rated to 260,000 psi.
IIRC that's what Clive Madhammer uses on his drag car.

Thanks for confirming that. Was looking at these myself but was misinformed on them, may fit a set next time my engine is out.

Bob Rawle 27 May 2013 06:40 AM

As Martyn says they are much better but I have still seen heads lift using the Cosworth "Ultra" studs, for me its better to put the 14 mm items in and have done with it. Given its only a 2 litre it may indeed be fine.

cheers

bob

MartynJ 27 May 2013 09:44 AM

It's all about horses for courses isn't it Bob.
In the situation the OP has at the moment, a 14mm stud conversion would mean quite a bit of work to an engine which is running just fine. If he was going to do a complete strip anyway, that's a different matter and I'd say convert to 14mm studs too.
We carry out all of the machining processes, so if you'd like a quote Andy give us a call, other than that we can also supply the Cosworth studs.

Mad Hammer 27 May 2013 10:05 AM

I use the cossy studs at well over 700bhp and 2.5 bar of boost. Iirc Alyn at AS performance has another alternative on 11mm that are even stronger !

Infected by sti 27 May 2013 10:34 AM

2.5 bar of boost :eek: I need that much boost in my life :lol1: I bet that's feckin mental :D

andyscoobym3 28 May 2013 10:40 PM

I had cosworth ultra studs last year, running 2.2bar boost and 8500rpm+ used on track and no issues.

Andy Stevens 29 May 2013 09:56 AM

Clive's was the car that I'd heard about running 11mm and high power successfully. I'll give you a shout Martyn to see if I can get away without machining.

Mad Hammer 29 May 2013 12:15 PM

In fact just popping new heads on my engine and we are re using the cossy 11s ;)

Andy Stevens 04 June 2013 07:24 PM

Have you ever had the heads lift Clive? Do you O-ring them and what sort of gaskets do you use?

Mad Hammer 04 June 2013 11:30 PM

No Andy never had a problem and use cosworth stopper gaskets

Andy Stevens 05 June 2013 10:15 AM

Cheers, will run the same studs and gaskets as yourself, hopefully that will keep them nailed down.

Andy Stevens 23 September 2013 12:16 PM

Went for RCMS extreme 11mm and Cosworth gaskets, went to pod and it all stayed together, which was nice. Got a best 60' of 1.6703s on skinny little 215s and a better flat shift setup so didn't miss a gear all day but only managed an 11.6 in the 2 decent runs I had so have lost something somewhere.

Reliable, repeatable, but not quicker. Think I will need to go rotated for a 10.

Mad Hammer 23 September 2013 08:15 PM

Glad to hear all is fixed. Practice really does help.

Btw sent you email few days back.

Andy Stevens 23 September 2013 08:59 PM

True, there may be a low 11 in there with enough runs. It's great to drive at the mo. Didn't get an email Clive can you resend? Service@enduringsolutions.com. Cheers.

Mad Hammer 23 September 2013 09:27 PM

Sent

AS Performance 24 September 2013 01:13 PM

nice one Andy, pleased the parts did the job..........

Andy Stevens 24 September 2013 02:14 PM

Thanks loads Alyn, I really appreciate the help on that one, great service.

Andy Stevens 24 September 2013 02:22 PM

This is what an 8 second car looks like from the seat of an 11 second car, lol. Actually got the drop on Simon so the LC is working well but then he finds some traction and the 1100hp kicks in.


daiski 24 September 2013 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Andy Stevens (Post 11097059)
A slightly frustrating day at the pod, the Head Gaskets let go early on so the car was down on power so managed 11.5sec @ 126mph.

Still alot of weight in the car and it obviously wasn't completely on song, but with some work I think a late 10 might be possible, still pretty good for such an inexpensive car.

Here is the video, the HG failure is obvious, the Launch Control and Flat Shift worked well:

ESL Demo Car HG fail 11.5s @ 126mph - YouTube

http://www.enduringsolutions.com/pod2.JPG

http://www.enduringsolutions.com/pod1.JPG

This was my playmate for the day, a 620hp GTR. Even without using his LC he was a couple of tenths up on me, the DCT transmission keeps the acceleration seamless, amazing car.

lol great figure to have in front of that pukka pies banner lol

Andy Stevens 09 February 2015 11:34 PM

Quick Update.

http://www.enduringsolutions.com/_MG_5631.jpg

http://www.enduringsolutions.com/_MG_5638.jpg

http://www.enduringsolutions.com/_MG_5697.jpg

http://www.enduringsolutions.com/_MG_5704.jpg

http://www.enduringsolutions.com/_MG_5708.jpg

http://www.enduringsolutions.com/_MG_5786.jpg

ZaKv1 10 February 2015 09:56 AM

love how the car looks now with power to match..

top job :thumb:

BrownPantsRacing 10 February 2015 10:50 AM

WOW. I love this. Looks the nuts!

trails 10 February 2015 12:18 PM

is it just me or are those images HUGE...so big I can't even see what it looks like :D

taylor85 10 February 2015 12:23 PM

that looks very mean!

jaygsi 26 September 2017 10:02 AM

So has Andy got rid of this now?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222656361534

Sammyb1 26 December 2017 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Andy Stevens (Post 10958589)
I bought the entire car for 5k, replaced the GEMS with ESL, replaced the 20g with a £500 turbo off scoobynet (sold the 20g for the same), replaced 20% of the petrol with meth, and ta da!

TK-WRX, is that you Trev?

And can you help me I have 1997 Forester Stb running esl 97/98 I was driving it just cut out won’t start again I saw a video on you tube some guy had the same problems as me you said he never had a backup power supply to the ecu but my car was running ok and just cut out I have tried everything possible then found that video last night and thought you might be able to shine some light on my problem

Harris classic 26 December 2017 05:52 PM

wow that's looks awesome 😍


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