Ecutek vs open source
Could Somone explain the advantage of a professional mapper
Mapping a newage from scratch with ecutek as opposed o/s I keep reading a million posts of folk saying ecutek and keep wondering why Maybe I'm missing somthing ? |
The main ones cited are:
Technical support, documentation. Map definition consistency, accuracy and depth. Model coverage. Map contents confidentiality/protection. Cable quality. |
Originally Posted by john banks
(Post 10835264)
The main ones cited are:
Technical support, documentation. Map definition consistency, accuracy and depth. Model coverage. Map contents confidentiality/protection. Cable quality. I can get the confidentiality aspect , but that also requires the same from the mapper not just the software ? Could you elaborate on the def aspect and also the cable ? |
Arent os limited on what you can do with them? And hp limits too?
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
(Post 10835310)
Arent os limited on what you can do with them? And hp limits too?
Like , switchable maps , launch control , anti lag |
Originally Posted by toneh
(Post 10835318)
No mate no power limiting factors afaik , o/s supports most other features to
Like , switchable maps , launch control , anti lag Jura |
[QUOTE=jura11;10835373]On older MY01-02 via EcuTek is not available switchable fuel map(only switchable boost),Launch control,ALS plus you can delete some errors like EGT etc.
Jura[/QUOTE Has you're ecutek not got switchable maps ? I thought you were o/s jura |
[QUOTE=toneh;10835376]
Originally Posted by jura11
(Post 10835373)
On older MY01-02 via EcuTek is not available switchable fuel map(only switchable boost),Launch control,ALS plus you can delete some errors like EGT etc.
Jura[/QUOTE Has you're ecutek not got switchable maps ? I thought you were o/s jura Our wagon has been mapped via OS before and after that Syvecs S6 PnP has been our choice(now is Syvecs S8) Our wagon never been mapped via EcuTek Jura |
I see what you mean now mate
You were saying that the older ecutek for 01/2 doesn't have full map switching ( not that you were using it ) I think ? |
Originally Posted by toneh
(Post 10835394)
I see what you mean now mate
You were saying that the older ecutek for 01/2 doesn't have full map switching ( not that you were using it ) I think ? As I said older UK/EUDM/USDM MY01-02 you can't have full map switching,only on JDM(via MegaROM) and on newer DBW(RaceRom I think) Jura |
Originally Posted by jura11
(Post 10835404)
As I said older UK/EUDM/USDM MY01-02 you can't have full map switching,only on JDM(via MegaROM) and on newer DBW(RaceRom I think)
Jura |
Originally Posted by toneh
(Post 10835415)
So it seems o/s could possibly have more features than the basic / older ecutek ?
Jura |
Originally Posted by toneh
(Post 10835318)
No mate no power limiting factors afaik , o/s supports most other features to
Like , switchable maps , launch control , anti lag |
Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
(Post 10835438)
Yes i know all the options are available with open source too, just wonder why people go down the syvecs route?
We are went with Syvecs,because this ECU has been best at this time and still is it for money(yes MoTeC is daddy,but cost few times more than Syvecs) Inputs/Outputs on Syvecs will/can allow you lots,like sensors for Fuel pressure,oil pressure,oil temp,EGT etc and trips(limp mode) for those sensors,main thing is you don't need any controller for Wideband or EGT and NOS control without going for expensive progressive controller and lots of other features :) Jura |
Originally Posted by jura11
(Post 10835428)
In my view yes,if you are looking at Nasioc most people switched from EcuTek to the CarBerry ROM or AP/Cobb etc
Jura Which is why I asked the question , why ecutek vs o/s I know John as answered but to be fair the reasons cited are not reasons that will really benefit the end user Tbh how many guys on here care about map confidentiality or tech support ect All they know is they pay there money to a mapper And is the car producing good power / is it smoother delivery / good torque ect So will the end user get a better driving / more power ect by using ecutek ? |
Can os be mapped on the go "live map" like the syvecs does or is it the same as EcuTek where you have to stop and upload the map with each alteration?
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No, you stop and upload with os too (or at least mine had to).
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O/s is not live mapping , tbh I thought the provision for live mapping lies more on the hardware rather than the software
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You may find some answers in here HERE
That's if you have the time to read it all lol it's goes on a bit :thumb: |
Originally Posted by scotty44
(Post 10835619)
You may find some answers in here HERE
That's if you have the time to read it all lol it's goes on a bit :thumb: So it seems the concerns about o/s software being beta and maybe full of bugs and glitches was a good few years ago I think it's pretty safe to say its proven now It seems that the use of o/s has been more of an ethical ( financial issue in favour of ecutek) rather than sub standard software So there are no real differences at the end of the day |
Originally Posted by toneh
(Post 10835683)
I think it's pretty safe to say its proven now
Issues still exist now, IIRC. It's rare that I delve into the OS forums, but, I think there was an issue still with the speed density ROM. I could be wrong though. |
Originally Posted by mickywrx
(Post 10835712)
Famous last words, Tony.
Issues still exist now, IIRC. It's rare that I delve into the OS forums, but, I think there was an issue still with the speed density ROM. I could be wrong though. Once the rom is in , mapped and performing how you want I can't see what issues you can have , it's not like milk ( not gonna off all of a sudden ) But this is off topic really Why is ecutek better than o/s ( what advantages for the customer ? ) |
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