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Scoobdogg 02 March 2012 05:30 PM

1/4 mile times Classic at 400bhp Hawk at 460bhp?
 
Out of interest just wondering what sort of 1/4 mile times 400bhp classics are making in particular if you have a 2.1 stroker type r what are you achieving.
I'm running around that figure but it's never been on the strip yet be interesting to know what I should be looking at?

Also interested to know what 460bhp hawks are getting I have a challenge on my horizon.

wimpy 02 March 2012 05:49 PM

You will easy be in the low 12's at over 110mph.

gpssti4 02 March 2012 05:59 PM

I would expect the Type R to be quicker down the strip, but it would be close - 10% less weight and 15% less power, but the gearing could swing it......

Let us know :thumb:

Scoobdogg 02 March 2012 06:07 PM

Yeah I am hoping it might be quicker as long as I don't destroy the transmission 400 is maybe the limit of what power it'll cope with although I've heard of people with more running a standard box. Hopefully it's first launch doesn't put it to the grave but I'll maybe have it upgraded before then, along with a little more power. Just trying to get a bit of insider info to see what sort of times we both might get. I feel he's too confident haha

TonyBurns 02 March 2012 06:15 PM

Standard 5 speed? 400bhp the limit? :lol1: you have gone well beyond it, normally hard launches will kill it quicker, you must be pushing over 350lbs of torque (alot die earlier than that) with that setup?
I would be a little careful if you want to drive the car home ;)

Tony:)

Scoobdogg 02 March 2012 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by TonyBurns (Post 10515353)
Standard 5 speed? 400bhp the limit? :lol1: you have gone well beyond it, normally hard launches will kill it quicker, you must be pushing over 350lbs of torque (alot die earlier than that) with that setup?
I would be a little careful if you want to drive the car home ;)

Tony:)

Yeah I thought that Tony but just looking for an excuse to throw more money at it an if the box lets go then I'll have to upgrade :lol1: in all seriousness though been toying between a PPG or 6 speed and will hopefully have it in before hand anyway.
I've been running 400 through the standard box for over a year now with no issues at all but been pretty mechanically sympathetic with it an not driven it too hard. I do know of a similar set up to mine although a 2.2 that was running 430 ish on the standard box for a while but not heard from him for a long time I'd imagine it has been swapped out by now.

TonyBurns 02 March 2012 06:30 PM

Forget PPG, they are not that good, they still use the standard 5th gear which is what goes and chews your box up, you need the scoobyclinic gearset though not cheap, shouldnt munch your box :lol1:

stevebt 02 March 2012 06:32 PM

I went to a 1/4mile day years ago and a friend had a 400bhp type r and I had a 450bhp newage sti. Mine ran 11.9 and his ran 12.2.

Scoobdogg 02 March 2012 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by TonyBurns (Post 10515375)
Forget PPG, they are not that good, they still use the standard 5th gear which is what goes and chews your box up, you need the scoobyclinic gearset though not cheap, shouldnt munch your box :lol1:

I'll have a look at that Tony. What about a JDM 6 speed are they not a bit stronger than a ppg as well?

alanbell 02 March 2012 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Scoobdogg (Post 10515389)
I'll have a look at that Tony. What about a JDM 6 speed are they not a bit stronger than a ppg as well?

6 speeds are very strong good for 600 plus, and theres one for sale on here .;)

Jay m A 02 March 2012 08:54 PM

Should be able to get into the 11's with a 400 hp classic. I did a 12.4 with a 2.1 60 ft and 4 normal gearchanges testing my clutch at totb.

KAS35RSTI 02 March 2012 08:59 PM

Final gear ratio talk begins here....

alanbell 02 March 2012 09:05 PM

i got a 11 .0 1/4 in my 500 bhp bug that had a jdm box, but that car long gone, now have a v5 type r, will be near 600 bhp and hope to get into the 10s.

KAS35RSTI 02 March 2012 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by alanbell (Post 10515680)
i got a 11 .0 1/4 in my 500 bhp bug that had a jdm box, but that car long gone, now have a v5 type r, will be near 600 bhp and hope to get into the 10s.

Was this a JDM bug? Would be nice to know what the spec was?

alanbell 02 March 2012 09:33 PM

yes jdm bug, sold it 4 years ago, was a 2.5 scd built by steven darley, and a 321t+ was marks test turbo at the time,

KAS35RSTI 02 March 2012 09:54 PM

Ahh 2.5, makes sense now

jura11 03 March 2012 12:21 AM

Best time which we are done on Santa pod has been 12.1 with 490bhp newage wagon and PPG,but without the LC,ALS and with slipping clutch


Jura

Scoobdogg 03 March 2012 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by alanbell (Post 10515680)
i got a 11 .0 1/4 in my 500 bhp bug that had a jdm box, but that car long gone, now have a v5 type r, will be near 600 bhp and hope to get into the 10s.

What box your planning on running yourself Alan?

alanbell 03 March 2012 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Scoobdogg (Post 10516005)
What box your planning on running yourself Alan?

pm,ed you.

andy97 03 March 2012 10:42 AM

I did a 11.6 with 420 in my classic a few years ago. Been there done that, very brutal on the transmission

stevebt 03 March 2012 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by alanbell (Post 10515680)
i got a 11 .0 1/4 in my 500 bhp bug that had a jdm box, but that car long gone, now have a v5 type r, will be near 600 bhp and hope to get into the 10s.


I have been trying to get a 10 run but my slow gear changes aren't helping, hopefully I will do it this year :D

Sleiper STI 03 March 2012 06:06 PM

ohhh somebodys panicking, starting to ask the questions, its ok for you to get beat from george we wont laugh.......MUCH!!!!

L.J.F 03 March 2012 11:29 PM

keep us posted on the outcome of this classic v Newage run;)

Scoobdogg 04 March 2012 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Sleiper STI (Post 10516671)
ohhh somebodys panicking, starting to ask the questions, its ok for you to get beat from george we wont laugh.......MUCH!!!!

Hahaha just checking out the competition :lol1: I'm pretty confident he'll beat me until I get a new gearbox

LegacySTi 04 March 2012 10:48 AM

We got 12.21 on a 2.25 L v5 type r running 390/370 with a non billet 20g. About 3-4 years ago.

leggate 06 May 2012 10:56 PM

alrite guys, instead of dumping the clutch out on the line all the time n giving it a kicking try getting the clutch to the bite with the handbrake on, alot less strain on on the car and still get a fast lanch.
just thought id through it in there

andy beffro 23 October 2013 03:45 AM

I no this is old but i took my type r santa pod few months bk usc ,,
Its running a 2.5 hybrid on the standard small vf24 turbo @18psi and got a 13.1 could u guys tell me if thats a good or bad time ?and what sort of times would u expect from this set up ..as my aim is 400bhp 2. Easier asking on this than a new post haha :)

exevo3 23 October 2013 08:53 AM

my evo3 did a 12.3 1/4 at santa pod. car was a 2.3stroker 370bhp 390ftlb..1270kg
that was with no lunch as I still had standard clutch at the time lol..

id guess a classic type r with same kinda power would be well into the mid low 12s

MattyB1983 23 October 2013 12:57 PM

Its impossible to say what time a certain car will run. It comes down to the driver and conditions.
I ran my 400+ classic at the pod in pretty poor conditions, spun up through first and second and ended up with a 12.7 at 120mph. I know of imprezas with little over 300bhp run faster times than that and I know of imprezas with more power than my old car and run slower times.
I believe that a little classic with circa 400 ponies could run mid 11's with perfect conditions and a driver who is not concerned about damaging the car.

trevsjwood 23 October 2013 04:24 PM

Is the 2.5 less well suited to the 1/4mile? mine won't budge from around 12.9, it's a weighty car but just feel the higher revving cars have the edge.
Trev


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