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boxst 20 January 2012 09:37 AM

MegaUpload shutdown
 
Having just started to play with Apple TV and IceFilms this is a pain.

Amazing that the US government has so much power for something that is relatively trivial (copyright theft is not terrorism).

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01...tcom_arrested/

TyroReca 20 January 2012 09:51 AM

Ya I heard about this last night. Sucks

f1_fan 20 January 2012 09:51 AM

$500million of copyright fraud = relatively trivial???

boxst 20 January 2012 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 10441320)
$500million of copyright fraud = relatively trivial???

To have multiple countries across the globe to be involved, yes.

Steve

JackClark 20 January 2012 09:57 AM

Kim DotCom is quite the character. Megaupload was a cess pit.

f1_fan 20 January 2012 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by boxst (Post 10441324)
To have multiple countries across the globe to be involved, yes.

Steve

There speaks someone who has never produced a single piece of commercial creative content in his life.

If they have been facilitating copyright theft then f**k them!

boxst 20 January 2012 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 10441335)
There speaks someone who has never produced a single piece of commercial creative content in his life.

If they have been facilitating copyright theft then f**k them!

Yep, not for a very long time. I used to create computer games on the Atari but tape-to-tape copying wasn't really enough of a problem :)

Saxo Boy 20 January 2012 10:04 AM

The US government loves to get involved in world wide issues and muck things up for everyone.

I basically gave up professional poker because of the impact the US governments actions in May-June 2011. I have now moved into affiliate marketing and other internet based businesses and there are at it again with PIPA/SOPA.

Frustrating to say the least!

Myles 20 January 2012 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Saxo Boy (Post 10441344)
The US government loves to get involved in world wide issues and muck things up for everyone.

I basically gave up professional poker because of the impact the US governments actions in May-June 2011. I have now moved into affiliate marketing and other internet based businesses and there are at it again with PIPA/SOPA.

Frustrating to say the least!

Isn't all poker 'professional'? You win, you earn cash.

Ant 20 January 2012 10:11 AM

That's a bummer I actually use Megaupload numerous of times custom firmware for my media player and files for football manager.

Megaupload was always my preferred one as it was fast.

Saxo Boy 20 January 2012 10:13 AM

I'd define professional poker as, "playing for a living where poker winnings constitutes the vast majority of your monthly income"

I did that.

I don't now.

I don't even play poker now or gamble in any shape or form. This only serves to prove my point to the various doubters over the years that thought I must have a gambling addiction to play poker full-time. As I said back then, I hate gambling. However, it was a necessary evil as part of my job. Glad that it doesn't feature in my life any more.

That said, starting a new business(es) doesn't feel any different. It is gambling, just like poker. Difference is, nobody judges you negatively for starting a business. Which is nice I guess :)

davegtt 20 January 2012 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Myles (Post 10441346)
Isn't all poker 'professional'? You win, you earn cash.

Not if you were stupid enough to play on Full Tilt. Saw it coming a mile off, anyone who had money invested in that site should have seen it coming too but its the blind leading the blind sometimes.

Myles 20 January 2012 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by davegtt (Post 10441365)
Not if you were stupid enough to play on Full Tilt. Saw it coming a mile off, anyone who had money invested in that site should have seen it coming too but its the blind leading the blind sometimes.

What happened Dave, I'm intrigued!?

bigsinky 20 January 2012 10:24 AM

is megaupload one of the repositories for cydia for jailbroken apple gear?

bigsinky 20 January 2012 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Myles (Post 10441372)
What happened Dave, I'm intrigued!?

The problem is that while the owners of Full Tilt Poker were receiving monthly dividends totaling $443 million over those four years, the company was for all intents and purposes insolvent in the time leading up to Black Friday.

read more http://www.pokerlistings.com/brunson...-scandal-55027

Myles 20 January 2012 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Saxo Boy (Post 10441358)
I'd define professional poker as, "playing for a living where poker winnings constitutes the vast majority of your monthly income"

I did that.

I don't now.

I don't even play poker now or gamble in any shape or form. This only serves to prove my point to the various doubters over the years that thought I must have a gambling addiction to play poker full-time. As I said back then, I hate gambling. However, it was a necessary evil as part of my job. Glad that it doesn't feature in my life any more.

That said, starting a new business(es) doesn't feel any different. It is gambling, just like poker. Difference is, nobody judges you negatively for starting a business. Which is nice I guess :)

I wouldn't hold being a pro poker player against them. As long as he/she doesnt end up playing with their emotions (if you know what I mean) and they have a skill for the game then fair play to them.

DonNedly 20 January 2012 10:52 AM

I don't understand what megaupload could of done to prevent this. Its their users that were uploading copyrighted material and megaupload took down things that were reported to them same as youtube.
and as for the $500million that number was just pulled out of the air like every copyright claim, just because someone downloads something that doesn't mean they would of bought it. People will take any old crap if its free.

JackClark 20 January 2012 10:58 AM

Kimble paid people to host protected material. Allegedly.

ALi-B 20 January 2012 11:26 AM

What I find intriguing is how the USA, notably the FBi assumes jurisdiction and to be the main aggressor when it comes to enforcing international copyright laws when its supposed to be a commonly agreed treaty amongst member countries.


If it were a American person hosting illegal New Zealand copyrighted material, would New Zealand authorities they have the same freedoms as the FBI do?

The USA's refusal to adapt and compromise to the ever changing way of data/information distribution whilst at the same time promoting it for commercial abuse and financial capitalist greed is not doing them any favours.

Saxo Boy 20 January 2012 12:10 PM

I just made the age old mistake of writing a huge post and not hitting CTRL-C before posting it. Can't be bothered to write it again :(

Jaybird-UK 20 January 2012 12:42 PM

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/...41b422c001.jpg

Tidgy 20 January 2012 12:57 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16646880

assets being taken away. while the bright pink thing is hard to miss, what you might miss is the merc clk dtm thats mainly hidden, 14 seconds in, just below the very back of the truck, similar to the side view of the car on this pic, although mirrorer,

http://images.automobilemag.com/mult..._dtm_8_445.jpg

speedking 20 January 2012 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by DonNedly (Post 10441438)
I don't understand what megaupload could of done to prevent this. Its their users that were uploading copyrighted material and megaupload took down things that were reported to them same as youtube.
and as for the $500million that number was just pulled out of the air like every copyright claim, just because someone downloads something that doesn't mean they would of bought it. People will take any old crap if its free.

+1. Drugs with a street value of £10,000 (actual worth = £10).

If people were actually forced to pay for what they downloaded, $500m probably becomes $5m.

Miniman 20 January 2012 02:05 PM

Good article here. I do have a lot of sympathy for genuine businesses being abused and also believe that the US takes protectionist action a lot of the time (designed to benefit only the US), however it looks like the operators knew what was happening and even encouraged it.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...megaupload.ars

GlesgaKiss 20 January 2012 05:41 PM

It'll be interesting to see how this unfolds.

Trout 20 January 2012 05:42 PM

Is he a member of Scoobynet?


http://wa2.www.3news.co.nz/Portals/0...1cc421e159ec65

Will 20 January 2012 06:17 PM

Americans!!! Cu*ts of the highest order!!!!!


:D

JackClark 20 January 2012 06:31 PM

Kimble has been dodgy for a long while. It was only a matter of time before went down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Schmitz

Dedrater 20 January 2012 09:40 PM

Could not give a single toss about the site, but, it did amount to 4% of the global bandwidth and thus can understand the backlash.

Makes you think though, why did the US Government need SOPA/PIPA in the first place, when they can police the world in this fashion, that is truly scarey.


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 10441335)
There speaks someone who has never produced a single piece of commercial creative content in his life.

Haven't we has this conversation? You say you produced commercial creative content, but never had it protected in any shape or form and so no copyright to speak of, is this correct?

Saxo Boy 20 January 2012 09:51 PM


Makes you think though, why did the US Government need SOPA/PIPA in the first place, when they can police the world in this fashion, that is truly scarey.
Because they relied heavily on the cooperation of the New Zealand Police and Justice System. Without that, things would have been much harder for them.


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