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Old 20 January 2012, 09:37 AM
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Having just started to play with Apple TV and IceFilms this is a pain.

Amazing that the US government has so much power for something that is relatively trivial (copyright theft is not terrorism).

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01...tcom_arrested/
Old 20 January 2012, 09:51 AM
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Ya I heard about this last night. Sucks
Old 20 January 2012, 09:51 AM
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$500million of copyright fraud = relatively trivial???
Old 20 January 2012, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
$500million of copyright fraud = relatively trivial???
To have multiple countries across the globe to be involved, yes.

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Old 20 January 2012, 09:57 AM
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Kim DotCom is quite the character. Megaupload was a cess pit.
Old 20 January 2012, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by boxst
To have multiple countries across the globe to be involved, yes.

Steve
There speaks someone who has never produced a single piece of commercial creative content in his life.

If they have been facilitating copyright theft then f**k them!
Old 20 January 2012, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
There speaks someone who has never produced a single piece of commercial creative content in his life.

If they have been facilitating copyright theft then f**k them!
Yep, not for a very long time. I used to create computer games on the Atari but tape-to-tape copying wasn't really enough of a problem
Old 20 January 2012, 10:04 AM
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The US government loves to get involved in world wide issues and muck things up for everyone.

I basically gave up professional poker because of the impact the US governments actions in May-June 2011. I have now moved into affiliate marketing and other internet based businesses and there are at it again with PIPA/SOPA.

Frustrating to say the least!
Old 20 January 2012, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
The US government loves to get involved in world wide issues and muck things up for everyone.

I basically gave up professional poker because of the impact the US governments actions in May-June 2011. I have now moved into affiliate marketing and other internet based businesses and there are at it again with PIPA/SOPA.

Frustrating to say the least!
Isn't all poker 'professional'? You win, you earn cash.
Old 20 January 2012, 10:11 AM
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That's a bummer I actually use Megaupload numerous of times custom firmware for my media player and files for football manager.

Megaupload was always my preferred one as it was fast.
Old 20 January 2012, 10:13 AM
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I'd define professional poker as, "playing for a living where poker winnings constitutes the vast majority of your monthly income"

I did that.

I don't now.

I don't even play poker now or gamble in any shape or form. This only serves to prove my point to the various doubters over the years that thought I must have a gambling addiction to play poker full-time. As I said back then, I hate gambling. However, it was a necessary evil as part of my job. Glad that it doesn't feature in my life any more.

That said, starting a new business(es) doesn't feel any different. It is gambling, just like poker. Difference is, nobody judges you negatively for starting a business. Which is nice I guess
Old 20 January 2012, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Myles
Isn't all poker 'professional'? You win, you earn cash.
Not if you were stupid enough to play on Full Tilt. Saw it coming a mile off, anyone who had money invested in that site should have seen it coming too but its the blind leading the blind sometimes.

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Old 20 January 2012, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Not if you were stupid enough to play on Full Tilt. Saw it coming a mile off, anyone who had money invested in that site should have seen it coming too but its the blind leading the blind sometimes.
What happened Dave, I'm intrigued!?
Old 20 January 2012, 10:24 AM
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is megaupload one of the repositories for cydia for jailbroken apple gear?
Old 20 January 2012, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Myles
What happened Dave, I'm intrigued!?
The problem is that while the owners of Full Tilt Poker were receiving monthly dividends totaling $443 million over those four years, the company was for all intents and purposes insolvent in the time leading up to Black Friday.

read more http://www.pokerlistings.com/brunson...-scandal-55027
Old 20 January 2012, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
I'd define professional poker as, "playing for a living where poker winnings constitutes the vast majority of your monthly income"

I did that.

I don't now.

I don't even play poker now or gamble in any shape or form. This only serves to prove my point to the various doubters over the years that thought I must have a gambling addiction to play poker full-time. As I said back then, I hate gambling. However, it was a necessary evil as part of my job. Glad that it doesn't feature in my life any more.

That said, starting a new business(es) doesn't feel any different. It is gambling, just like poker. Difference is, nobody judges you negatively for starting a business. Which is nice I guess
I wouldn't hold being a pro poker player against them. As long as he/she doesnt end up playing with their emotions (if you know what I mean) and they have a skill for the game then fair play to them.
Old 20 January 2012, 10:52 AM
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I don't understand what megaupload could of done to prevent this. Its their users that were uploading copyrighted material and megaupload took down things that were reported to them same as youtube.
and as for the $500million that number was just pulled out of the air like every copyright claim, just because someone downloads something that doesn't mean they would of bought it. People will take any old crap if its free.
Old 20 January 2012, 10:58 AM
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Kimble paid people to host protected material. Allegedly.
Old 20 January 2012, 11:26 AM
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What I find intriguing is how the USA, notably the FBi assumes jurisdiction and to be the main aggressor when it comes to enforcing international copyright laws when its supposed to be a commonly agreed treaty amongst member countries.


If it were a American person hosting illegal New Zealand copyrighted material, would New Zealand authorities they have the same freedoms as the FBI do?

The USA's refusal to adapt and compromise to the ever changing way of data/information distribution whilst at the same time promoting it for commercial abuse and financial capitalist greed is not doing them any favours.

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Old 20 January 2012, 12:10 PM
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I just made the age old mistake of writing a huge post and not hitting CTRL-C before posting it. Can't be bothered to write it again
Old 20 January 2012, 12:42 PM
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Old 20 January 2012, 12:57 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16646880

assets being taken away. while the bright pink thing is hard to miss, what you might miss is the merc clk dtm thats mainly hidden, 14 seconds in, just below the very back of the truck, similar to the side view of the car on this pic, although mirrorer,

Old 20 January 2012, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DonNedly
I don't understand what megaupload could of done to prevent this. Its their users that were uploading copyrighted material and megaupload took down things that were reported to them same as youtube.
and as for the $500million that number was just pulled out of the air like every copyright claim, just because someone downloads something that doesn't mean they would of bought it. People will take any old crap if its free.
+1. Drugs with a street value of £10,000 (actual worth = £10).

If people were actually forced to pay for what they downloaded, $500m probably becomes $5m.
Old 20 January 2012, 02:05 PM
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Good article here. I do have a lot of sympathy for genuine businesses being abused and also believe that the US takes protectionist action a lot of the time (designed to benefit only the US), however it looks like the operators knew what was happening and even encouraged it.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...megaupload.ars
Old 20 January 2012, 05:41 PM
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It'll be interesting to see how this unfolds.
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Is he a member of Scoobynet?


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Americans!!! Cu*ts of the highest order!!!!!


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Kimble has been dodgy for a long while. It was only a matter of time before went down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Schmitz
Old 20 January 2012, 09:40 PM
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Could not give a single toss about the site, but, it did amount to 4% of the global bandwidth and thus can understand the backlash.

Makes you think though, why did the US Government need SOPA/PIPA in the first place, when they can police the world in this fashion, that is truly scarey.

Originally Posted by f1_fan
There speaks someone who has never produced a single piece of commercial creative content in his life.
Haven't we has this conversation? You say you produced commercial creative content, but never had it protected in any shape or form and so no copyright to speak of, is this correct?
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Makes you think though, why did the US Government need SOPA/PIPA in the first place, when they can police the world in this fashion, that is truly scarey.
Because they relied heavily on the cooperation of the New Zealand Police and Justice System. Without that, things would have been much harder for them.


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