what mods to hit 300+bhp
Hi guys i was wondering what mods i would need to hit 300+bhp i have a uk 97 turbo2000 wagon and its standard apart from a strait through exhaust no cats and a forge dump valve. a just need to make a list of what i need to do it so any help would be brilliant. thanks guys. phil:thumb::thumb:
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A bigger turbo, an after market ecu or piggyback type (both are not exactly cheap), upgraded brakes (your 2 pots really are bad), panel filter, maybe some upgraded injectors whilst your at it and a health check on the car to see if it can take 300+bhp, its 14 years old so the average miles on it will be around 140k.
Tony:) |
the firsty mod you really should go for is a bigger wallet:norty:
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hi tony thanks for the advice i was planning on rebuilding the engine anyway. what turbo would cope fine for the type of power and what sort injectors. phil
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hi addi lol yea your right. its summut am gona do over a good few months after new year take mi time wi ya know
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Originally Posted by Philturbo1
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hi tony thanks for the advice i was planning on rebuilding the engine anyway. what turbo would cope fine for the type of power and what sort injectors. phil
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Choice of turbos from a TD05 16G, vf 30/34/35/43/48.
If you went 550cc injectors and depending how you built your engine, though you have to remember your clutch and gearbox are going to suffer as they are probably the weakest ones they put in scoobs so torque will kill them quite easily :( but 330bhp is a good figure to aim for :) Tony:) |
for your 97 wrx you dont really want to be going over 335bhp as the engine and box will be rather streched to say the least, easy way to 330bhp, 440cc injectors £40-£50, tdo5 turbo £50-£100,decat up pipe £50ish second hand, full de cat zorst could pick a nice second up for £150 ish, fmic or newage sti top mount £100 plus, remap several options, esl board £550 all inc, simtek £1000 ish or there are many more options,. just my view so im sure people will also comment,.
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hi tony.i've heard alot about the tdo5 are they a direct swop. i was gona go for manley rods and not sure about pistons yet lol.
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phil just seen your from barnsley lol, im from your way, where abouts in barnsley you from fella,..
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Originally Posted by Philturbo1
(Post 10348453)
hi tony.i've heard alot about the tdo5 are they a direct swop. i was gona go for manley rods and not sure about pistons yet lol.
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Originally Posted by addi monster
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phil just seen your from barnsley lol, im from your way, where abouts in barnsley you from fella,..
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Originally Posted by Paulo P
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Only if converted to front entry. A VF28 will also hit 300bhp
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how do you go about converting it
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Goldthorpe area mate..
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Originally Posted by addi monster
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Goldthorpe area mate..
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Ye can do.. theres a few from round here mate.. We are going to a vibe open day on saturday with models ect in doncaster if you fancy a run over about 12ish, heres a list of us from round here thats going, check it out , if you fancy it let me know and we will meet up and convoy through lol,
http://www.ukscoobies.com/t5091-cust...meet-doncaster |
what is vibe mate
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Originally Posted by Philturbo1
(Post 10348561)
how do you go about converting it
All the vf turbos wont need converting - straight bolt on :thumb: |
Vibe audio. its a in car entertainment workshop. loadz of goodies .. subs amps ect and naked women lol
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All the vf turbos wont need converting - straight bolt on :thumb:[/quote] which vf turbo would be best mate |
vf34 mate imho
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Per Tony's post # 2. Injectors, turbo and after market ECU will get you 300 bhp.
Yellow 440cc injectors max out after 320 bhp and are cheap. 550cc will take you close to 400 bhp without an FPR. Turbos. Front entry TD05 16 G. 18G. Both rugged turbos. VF24, VF28,29,30, 35,34 and so on. Your choice of injectors and turbo will determine your ultimate power potential. Go beyond 320 bhp and you need an FMIC. Buy the most efficient and not the cheapest. |
Harvey i know you are a very very well informed man but my yellow 440s are running 336.2bhp at 90% duty @3bar
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so an ebay fmic is out of the question then lol.
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it will do the job but not an ideal choice tbh
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Originally Posted by addi monster
(Post 10350883)
it will do the job but not an ideal choice tbh
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Originally Posted by addi monster
(Post 10350778)
Harvey i know you are a very very well informed man but my yellow 440s are running 336.2bhp at 90% duty @3bar
You are obviously running an aftermarket fuel pressure regulator and this is an expense the OP does not need to bear. I guess you didn't take in to account your use of an aftermarket FPR. Useful to extend the scope of injectors by a few percent if you are prepared to bump the fuel pressure. At some point after 320 bhp, 440cc injectors will max out. By way of example I had to fit 550cc injectors to an STi 6 just over 320 bhp and on my own STi 3 Wagon I had 99% duty cycle at 335 bhp / 333 ft.lbs. Add to that different rolling roads giving different figures. 422 bhp at Scooby Clinic is 421 bhp at EvoTune but 448 bhp at Motoscope for instance. Same car, same fuel, indeed Scooby Clinic and Motoscope figures were on the same tank of fuel. The point is that if someone is relying on advice as to where they can go with a set of yellow injectors it cannot be predicted accurately as it will vary car to car. |
Originally Posted by Philturbo1
(Post 10348384)
Hi guys i was wondering what mods i would need to hit 300+bhp i have a uk 97 turbo2000 wagon and its standard apart from a strait through exhaust no cats and a forge dump valve. a just need to make a list of what i need to do it so any help would be brilliant. thanks guys. phil:thumb::thumb:
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