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tony de wonderful 29 September 2011 05:48 PM

New Speed Limits
 
We are going to get 80 mph on motorways, but the other side of the coin is that we get more 20 mph limits in urban areas.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...d-2362980.html

Personally I know of some streets near me where 20 mph is appropriate due to them being especially tight, having blind corners, cars either side etc, but I'm not sure how they are going to decide where to put the 20 mph limits in.

I'm all for an 80 mph limit but I seems absurd that this is going to 'boost' the economy. It will use more fuel up sure, is that good? More revenue for HMRC I suppose?

Can diesel hatches do 80 mph? :lol1:

Blue and Gold 29 September 2011 06:17 PM

I'm sure that pslewis's diesel civic being the fastest car on earth could do 80 without him even trying :lol1:

scud8 29 September 2011 06:23 PM

Won't make much difference on the stretch of the M25 I use unless they can persuade people that lanes 1 and 2 really exist. So many people just seem to stick to the third lane even when there is nothing inside them and we end up with a queue of cars using the 4th lane to get past them.

MattJ85 29 September 2011 06:27 PM

Think we should have a system like France where when it's sunny and dry then 80mph but when it's wet and raining it's reduced to 70mph.

I think increasing it is good but need to make sure people don't start speeding more and increasing higher (illegal) speed

zip106 29 September 2011 07:19 PM

My car appears to be more economical at 80mph than at 60-70mph.

Certainly agree with more 20 zones, especially by skules.

What worries me more is a further reduction in NSL country roads - many have already been cut to 40 or 50 mph.

hutton_d 29 September 2011 07:37 PM


As part of a deal negotiated with the Liberal Democrats the Transport Secretary Phillip Hammond is expected to announce the Government’s intention to bring in the new speed limit at the Conservative conference.
What this article, and about 99% of articles like it in the media, misses out is that it's to "harmonise" our limits with those across Europe. So it's got b*g-all to do with any safety benefits and all to do with the EU. The sooner it crumbles into it's own cesspool the better!

Dave

alcazar 29 September 2011 07:53 PM

Dave: you don't want an 80mph limit on our motorways then? And you won't thank Europe for pushing it through?

PaulC72 29 September 2011 08:07 PM

The problem with 80mph speed limits is instead of what they do now on a 70 mph speed limit, i.e. drive around 80ish they will then drive around 90ish instead.

TelBoy 29 September 2011 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by scud8 (Post 10259759)
Won't make much difference on the stretch of the M25 I use unless they can persuade people that lanes 1 and 2 really exist. So many people just seem to stick to the third lane even when there is nothing inside them and we end up with a queue of cars using the 4th lane to get past them.


Couldn't agree more. Does my bloody head in. They need to use the big electronic signs to tell people to move over to the left when possible. Lane 3 has now become the new middle lane and it is INFURIATING!! :mad:

TelBoy 29 September 2011 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by PaulC72 (Post 10259964)
The problem with 80mph speed limits is instead of what they do now on a 70 mph speed limit, i.e. drive around 80ish they will then drive around 90ish instead.

In what sense is that a problem?

boomer 29 September 2011 10:14 PM

There is some interesting reading at ABD - Submission for the Raising of the Motorway Speed Limit!

If you agree, consider joining the ABD for less than the price of half a tank of fuel a year :thumb:

mb

kad 16v 29 September 2011 10:42 PM

will this mean that instead of fixed penalties being issued at anything over 90 that will now go up to 100?

either way it makes no difference to me as all the motoways i use its unsafe to go any faster than 75 ish as if your in the first lane there are to many polish lorrys turfing up our roads and not paying any tax for the pleasure, if your in the second lane theres to many of pre mentioned lorry drivers pulling out without looking and taking people out and way to many idiots in the way hogging the lane at 65mph and if your in the 3rd lane there are to many idiots in rep cars thinking its ok to sit 2 inches off your bumper even though your going as fast as the car in front, while they continue to flash their lights at you with one hand and stuff their face with a chedder ploughmans with the other.

I must admit i like it when im in a work car and they are tailgating while on their phones and speeding and i give a flash of the blue lights, oh they all turn a off colour of white and green haha, twats

scatty 29 September 2011 10:48 PM

i think they were saying, the old bill would be a lot more strict at folks going over the 80mph.....

hutton_d 29 September 2011 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 10259934)
Dave: you don't want an 80mph limit on our motorways then? And you won't thank Europe for pushing it through?


Didn't say that. Was making the point that, as with all things "decreed" by the EU, they are passed off as being from our parliament when they haven't even been able to rubber-stamp it. They just have to accept the laws as they are.

Hence Cast iron Dave going on about plastic bags today. It's because that's the limit to the power he has within the EU. He just heads up the equivalent of a Euro parish council.

Dave

andythejock01wrx 29 September 2011 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 10259704)
We are going to get 80 mph on motorways, but the other side of the coin is that we get more 20 mph limits in urban areas.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...d-2362980.html

Personally I know of some streets near me where 20 mph is appropriate due to them being especially tight, having blind corners, cars either side etc, but I'm not sure how they are going to decide where to put the 20 mph limits in.

I'm all for an 80 mph limit but I seems absurd that this is going to 'boost' the economy. It will use more fuel up sure, is that good? More revenue for HMRC I suppose?

Can diesel hatches do 80 mph? :lol1:

Well, I'll be on the M6 tomorrow and "may" do 80 to 85mph. The car's a Litchfield Type 20 with suitable brakes, so it's clearly not inappropriate - quite different from doing the same in a 1960s Austin Healy with drum brakes (ie when the 70mph limit came in).

80mph is fine. I'm ok with 20mph around schools and residential areas, but wouldn't like to see it replace all current 30mph limits.

kad 16v 29 September 2011 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx (Post 10260359)
Well, I'll be on the M6 tomorrow and "may" do 80 to 85mph. The car's a Litchfield Type 20 with suitable brakes, so it's clearly not inappropriate - quite different from doing the same in a 1960s Austin Healy with drum brakes (ie when the 70mph limit came in).

80mph is fine. I'm ok with 20mph around schools and residential areas, but wouldn't like to see it replace all current 30mph limits.

Hello fellow type 20 owner:thumb: quite right, it certainly is around time we need an increase in the limit but god forbid what half the driving population will do with the increase, most cant even handle the current limit everyone seems to do 10mph under the limit on all roads round here for no reason

andythejock01wrx 29 September 2011 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by kad 16v (Post 10260374)
Hello fellow type 20 owner:thumb: quite right, it certainly is around time we need an increase in the limit but god forbid what half the driving population will do with the increase, most cant even handle the current limit everyone seems to do 10mph under the limit on all roads round here for no reason

The T20 Club. :D

Funkii Munkii 30 September 2011 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by PaulC72 (Post 10259964)
The problem with 80mph speed limits is instead of what they do now on a 70 mph speed limit, i.e. drive around 80ish they will then drive around 90ish instead.

They do already, it's common practice on most of our motorways.

Leslie 30 September 2011 03:07 PM

I think it would be an error to raise the limit. Of course it would be natural to increase driving speeds significantly beyond 80 and where we have crowded roads as we so often do, I think that would be dangerous.

It is one thing to say that cars handle so much better now but it makes no allowance for the fact that human reaction times and general driving ability have not increased with time.

Les

Scooby Soon! 30 September 2011 03:20 PM

I very much doubt people are going to increase there speed from 80mph to 90mph when the new limit comes in

J4CKO 30 September 2011 04:49 PM

I dont think people will use it to go massively faster as to be honest you are going as fast as the rest of the traffic and thats 80 - 90 on a free flowing motorway, the fuel prices will put many off even doing 80 and to be honest much aboove 90 really isnt a comfortable speed for a lot of cars (Superminis, Vans etc) on British motorways a lot of the time, everybody will anticipate the increase in enforcement and the fact that if you go over 100 you are f*cked anyway if caught.

I will just do my normal 85/90 as I always have if conditions allow and the car is up to it.

RobsyUK 30 September 2011 08:56 PM

I read a stat somewhere that doing over 60 mph uses 40% more fuel due to drag etc!!!

I currently sit at around 80mph - conditions dependant and with the new limit being 80mph I won't feel a need to sit around 90mph just means I have less chance of being knicked. And my 5th gear kicks in at 80mph which is weird!

as for 20mph it should only be for areas outside schools etc.. If spunk flies out under 30mph then is is safe to hit a child? lol sorry I had to put that - thanks sickapedia...

Carlh 01 October 2011 08:40 AM

death/accidents from speeding is a very low percentage of how car accidents occur. Bring it up to 80, think it will be a good idea. I drive 80 now, so at least I'll be within the law when they do. I wouldnt think most people will go to 90+ because the limits have been raised.
Idiots if they do.

speedking 01 October 2011 08:48 AM

I will :thumb: Limit + 10 is my normal cruising speed.

hutton_d 01 October 2011 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Carlh (Post 10261895)
death/accidents from speeding is a very low percentage of how car accidents occur. Bring it up to 80, think it will be a good idea. I drive 80 now, so at least I'll be within the law when they do. I wouldnt think most people will go to 90+ because the limits have been raised.
Idiots if they do.

How can you say this? When those wonderful people at Brake say:


"We are strongly opposed to the idea of raising the motorway speed limit. We would be strongly opposed to any policy that would increase deaths on the roads. To have such a policy would be unethical. Each death on the road affects not only the victim but their family too."
:cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:

Dave

Brun 01 October 2011 10:12 AM

Raising it to 80 only means i won't catch people as fast ;)

Leslie 01 October 2011 10:26 AM

Faster more like!

Les

Brun 01 October 2011 10:48 AM

....as i said ;)

ScoobyWon't 01 October 2011 08:54 PM

I'd suggest making it similar to the German Autobahns.

No need for a speed limit in normal conditions, but have overhead variable speed limit signs to warn of problems ahead.

PaulC72 01 October 2011 09:59 PM

LOL @ the people saying they currently travel at 80 mph when the current limit is 70...most will do 90mph when it is raised as the 'risk' threshold remains the same. People will not change the way they drive. If they feel 10mph over is acceptable now it will be then.


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