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ChefDude 03 July 2011 12:49 PM

new to OSX
 
So, my g/f is now using osx and keeps asking windows-ey questions I know most of, but...

in Finder, when looking at a directory in icon mode, how do you sort them by name descending, z thru a?

you can do this in list view, but not icon view.

Markus 03 July 2011 01:17 PM

I cannot find a way to do this in Icon view. I did think you could switch to list, reverse sort, then switch to Icon view and it would retain the order, but it does not appear to work.

ChefDude 03 July 2011 01:36 PM

It doesn't :-(

I'm getting hassle as the osx proponent who's convinced her to go mac and she's coming up with things like this.

It's not how I work, so I haven't run into this one.

The other one is iTunes not syncing the camera roll. You're expected to use the camera capture utility as if you're using a digital camera. Except on windows the phone shows as a drive.

Then there's maximising windows. "that's not how you work on a mac" is suddenly moot, because it's the new feature in Lion. So we don't have a leg to stand on.

:rolleyes:

Ant 03 July 2011 02:02 PM

just use iPhoto to sync the photos automatically, on lion theres a button next to the other 3 that will arrange them , is that not on SL? i can't remember

Markus 03 July 2011 03:23 PM

Fcuk it then, stick Windows on it :D

Why does she need to reverse sort by name in icon mode? Another option might be to change the view option to "Cover Flow". It splits the window with pictures up top in a left to right scrollable view, and the bottom half is the file name, now, that is in list view, so you can then reverse sort it and flick through that way. Is that any use?

Camera roll sync thing is a little odd, but I think it's because you're expected to use either image capture (it is technically a camera) or iPhoto to get pictures off the device.

Maximize windows, yeah, ok, fair enough, the button you expect to do that, well, doesn't. Just sets max height, rather than max width and height. Never really understood why not (or cannot remember why not!)

ChefDude 03 July 2011 03:54 PM

Lol, I did suggest another windows machine.

JPL 04 July 2011 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Markus (Post 10117857)
Maximize windows, yeah, ok, fair enough, the button you expect to do that, well, doesn't. Just sets max height, rather than max width and height. Never really understood why not (or cannot remember why not!)

This was bugging me. Wife has a Mac and often asks various Q's. I still don't get why Apple seems to want you to work in small windows, maximising seems to be quite a chore.

ChefDude 04 July 2011 12:35 PM

it's coming in OSX Lion - you know Apple invented maximized windows? lol

I only ever maximize windows for photoshop and bridge - and the (+) button already does this for those apps. i have a 27" screen - full size windows are ridiculous for most things.

JPL 04 July 2011 12:42 PM

Ah, she has an 11" Air. LOL

ChefDude 04 July 2011 02:40 PM

thread's a bit shorter now :confused:

Hanley 04 July 2011 04:00 PM

Draconian mods strike again!!

Ant 04 July 2011 04:03 PM

Shame really as jpl made a very good point

Markus 04 July 2011 05:11 PM

< bite tongue mode on >
As suggested by the other user whose comment has been deleted, the reason I asked the question was to find out why the user wanted a reverse alpha-sort in icon mode, it was a genuine question and not some way to try and explain away what some may consider a failing of OS X.
< bite tongue mode off >

Kieran_Burns 04 July 2011 05:27 PM

two words: Off Topic

boxst 04 July 2011 05:27 PM

I'm now using my wife's shiny new MacBook Pro and she has my (work) Dell as she couldn't get on with OSX. She is not particularly interested in computers, and has been using Windows for years and couldn't work out why things were 'different' 'painful' etc..

OSX for me is fine and the MacBook dual-boots (with Bootcamp) into Windows 7.

I have to say that VMWare Fusion is a brilliant piece of software. Whilst in Mac OSX I can run the Bootcamp instance as a virtual machine and then tell it run on in 'Unity' Mode which makes all the applications running in the VM behave as proper applications on the Mac. I have no idea how this works but it is incredibly impressive.

f1_fan 04 July 2011 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns (Post 10119510)
two words: Off Topic

No it wasn't. The standard answer from some of the Apple users on here when something doesn't work in OSX/iPhone/iWhatever is to suggest you don't try and do whatever it is that doesn't work. e.g. mail accounts that don't work on the iPhone - the advice is to get rid of those mail accounts... the tail wagging the dog if ever I heard it. I was just pointing this out so this one didn't go the same way.

Anyway all sorted now as she is back to using a proper computer with Wndows on it :thumb:

jsh1 04 July 2011 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 10119529)
No it wasn't. The standard answer from some of the Apple users on here when something doesn't work in OSX/iPhone/iWhatever is to suggest you don't try and do whatever it is that doesn't work. e.g. mail accounts that don't work on the iPhone - the advice is to get rid of those mail accounts... the tail wagging the dog if ever I heard it. I was just pointing this out so this one didn't go the same way.

Anyway all sorted now as she is back to using a proper computer with Wndows on it :thumb:

No-one suggested that you should not do something that way or make excuses as to why it didn't work.

There was a simple question asked to see whether there was an alternative solution.

Quit with your constant griping and moaning about Apple and their users as it is getting very boring. Try and be constructive or don't bother posting at all.

Jason

ChefDude 04 July 2011 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by boxst (Post 10119511)
I have to say that VMWare Fusion is a brilliant piece of software. Whilst in Mac OSX I can run the Bootcamp instance as a virtual machine and then tell it run on in 'Unity' Mode which makes all the applications running in the VM behave as proper applications on the Mac. I have no idea how this works but it is incredibly impressive.

Same with parallels! Absolute voodoo, but it works really well.

f1_fan 05 July 2011 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by jsh1 (Post 10119808)
Quit with your constant griping and moaning about Apple and their users as it is getting very boring. Try and be constructive or don't bother posting at all.

Jason

My comment makes it perfectly clear as to why I posted. Deal with it! :thumb:

ChefDude 05 July 2011 11:48 AM

Suz found another one!

Apparently you cannot paste a folder of items onto another same named folder of items without the target folder's items being deleted first!

windows and linux would simply merge all the items into the target folder.

why haven't i come across this?!

Markus 05 July 2011 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by ChefDude (Post 10120651)
Suz found another one!

Apparently you cannot paste a folder of items onto another same named folder of items without the target folder's items being deleted first!

windows and linux would simply merge all the items into the target folder.

why haven't i come across this?!

My guess is because you would open the first folder, then select all, copy, and then open the other folder and paste the contents in. Actually, what you probably do is select all from the first folder and then option drag the files into the other folder, thus copying.

The situation you see is because OS X is assuming that as you are copying the folder entire, that you want to replace the existing one, rather than merge the two. Would be nice if it did ask you what you wanted to do, ie; overwrite or merge contents. Not sure if Lion is any smarter in this respect, probably not though.

ChefDude 05 July 2011 12:49 PM

I think i would go into the source folder to copy what i wanted, even if it was all files. this does seem more sensible to stay in control of what you're copying.

but still, lol. i wonder what she'll find next.

this would make a good windows -> mac blog!

Markus 05 July 2011 06:37 PM

Ok, bit of an update on the copy / paste thing. ≤ 10.6.8, as mentioned above it will replace rather than merge. 10.7 (Lion) however, does merge, well, it offers the option to replace or "keep both" which merges them. Just tried it myself (thanks to Kevin for letting me use his machine), works perfectly.
Seems to be in the Finder info on Lion found here.

No idea why they did not demo this at WWDC, after a little googling about this, it seems it's a pet-hate for many people.


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