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The Zohan 08 June 2011 11:48 AM

Camoron's justice u-turn!
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/b...justice-u-turn

makes an interesting read, how about instead of cutting sentences they give a longer sentence for this that plead not guilty but are proved to be guilty. Oh and build some more prisons (if overcrowding is an issue) for the scumbags so they can be kept away from decent, law abiding folk folk.

Camoron needs to man-up because he is looking and sounding a lot like Bliar and flash!

CREWJ 08 June 2011 11:51 AM

Actually more prisons is a great idea. What is another huge concern for everyone? Lack of jobs. All we need is the funding :(

The Zohan 08 June 2011 11:57 AM

Even the Daily Torygraph sees straight through the spin http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ad-guilty.html

Sadiq Khan, the shadow justice secretary, claimed that the policy showed that Conservatives could no longer be trusted on law and order. i agree fully although it might carry some weight if it wasn't from NL who, lets face it, where not exactly tough on crime or it's causes...

Bonehead 08 June 2011 12:31 PM

All very well this u-turn, but will the gulible and soft Judges actually ever dish out any decent sentances?

Last year NO-ONE got the maximum sentance for either burglary or knife crime.
Whatever your views on rehabilitation just simply having the scumbags out of soceity for the maximum time helps normal people

warrenm2 08 June 2011 12:42 PM

I think its just Cameron had let Clarke take the lead and when he came up with this policy that was so clearly unpopular, Cameron had to take over and say no.

If you jailed people at the rate they did at the start of the 20th Century you would have over 350000 prisoners, not 89000.....

hutton_d 08 June 2011 01:43 PM

If a scum-bag gets sentenced to, say, 5 years, he/she should serve 5 years. If they don't behave in prison they get time added on. Simples.

Not enough prison spaces? Start putting 3 to, what is now, a 2-man cell. That'll increase the available spaces by, say, 30% (allowing for some cells that really wouldn't fit 3). Still not enough? Build some more! Simples.

Cameron U-turn? Sounds like Billy Liar? Said so before the election. Wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. Though that applies to about 99.99% of all politicians IMHO. They have no interest in what we want or need, merely their own advancement.

Dave

Leslie 08 June 2011 04:01 PM

Funny you should say that Dave! About time they started to react to the criminal classes who must be helpless with laughter at them behind their backs.

Les :(

The Zohan 08 June 2011 04:27 PM

looks like he did finally 'man-up' now perhpas he can use the same sense over Europe - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-2294472.html

Millibland - what a joke now sure how he has the bare faced cheek to take any moral high ground given his involvement with the last shower of sh1ts in power.

Leslie 09 June 2011 12:56 PM

Its all you can expect from an incompetant.

Les

fivetide 09 June 2011 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by The Zohan (Post 10080116)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/b...justice-u-turn

makes an interesting read, how about instead of cutting sentences they give a longer sentence for this that plead not guilty but are proved to be guilty.

That's essentially what it is but they didn't say it that way. If they had, we wouldn't be having this issue.

People don't like the idea of cutting sentences, but the policy isn't completely stupid. Especially in some crimes an incentive to plead guilty at an early stage in say a rape case would spare the victim having to relive it all in court and have their character assasinated by a defence council.

The simple solution would have been to bump up sentences and so the 'discount' would be the same as what they get now but harsher for those that try to get away with it/cost the crown more to prosecute them.

5t.


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