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tony de wonderful 04 May 2011 07:15 PM

Hard launch.
 
Should you momentarily bang it off the limiter before up-shifting to 2nd? What do you think?

mickywrx 04 May 2011 07:32 PM

Change before the limiter. Banging it off the limiter slows you down.

P1Drifter 04 May 2011 07:54 PM

what if your wheel spinning and struggling for traction at the launch ? bang it into second or wait that split second for some grip ?

KAS35RSTI 04 May 2011 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by P1Drifter (Post 10022618)
what if your wheel spinning and struggling for traction at the launch ? bang it into second or wait that split second for some grip ?

Then you need some proper tyres :)

P1Drifter 04 May 2011 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Aladdin (Post 10022643)
Then you need some proper tyres :)

lol ! got toyo t1r's a the mo but 436/460 in a classic is proving tricky not to spin with launch control

mickywrx 04 May 2011 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by P1Drifter (Post 10022735)
lol ! got toyo t1r's a the mo but 436/460 in a classic is proving tricky not to spin with launch control

Get some proper tyres then. ;)

KAS35RSTI 04 May 2011 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by P1Drifter (Post 10022735)
lol ! got toyo t1r's a the mo but 436/460 in a classic is proving tricky not to spin with launch control

Ye same tyres i have aswell. I have managed to spin all four a few times :eek:

stevebt 04 May 2011 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 10022533)
Should you momentarily bang it off the limiter before up-shifting to 2nd? What do you think?



Learn to change gear quicker :)

tony de wonderful 04 May 2011 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by stevebt (Post 10022819)
Learn to change gear quicker :)

I actually find my Ver5 STI wagon a lot less snappy than my 1997 Skyline GTST. Could be 'cos I have a very light clutch in the Skyline and a lightened fly wheel, but the box does seem more stiff in the Scoob and even though the throw is shorter I feel like I can chuck the Skyline into 2nd a lot faster?

I thought maybe just hitting the limiter for a fraction of a second might help reduce lag or something? At the very least is should ensure you squeeze all the torques out of the ratio rather than changing say 200 or 300 RPM 'too low'.:)

stevebt 04 May 2011 09:36 PM

Hitting the limiter will always slow you down as you will be off boost :)

tony de wonderful 04 May 2011 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by P1Drifter (Post 10022618)
what if your wheel spinning and struggling for traction at the launch ? bang it into second or wait that split second for some grip ?

Is it just the launch or throughtout the rev range in 1st?

I've been told in a powerful turbo car that you might not be able to get onto boost in 1st due to traction so you should get it into 2nd way before you hit the limiter?

P1Drifter 04 May 2011 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 10022864)
Is it just the launch or throughtout the rev range in 1st?

I've been told in a powerful turbo car that you might not be able to get onto boost in 1st due to traction so you should get it into 2nd way before you hit the limiter?

Mostly on a proper launch but does sometimes scrabble for grip if booted in the lower gears, i get 430ft lbs at 3500rpm and peak torque of 460 1000rpm later, first gear is just a blink with launch control

Midlife...... 04 May 2011 11:23 PM

AVCR Scramble boost ? Reaction times would suggest you will hit the rev limiter anyway LOL

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/sleep/sheep/

Shaun

P1Drifter 05 May 2011 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Midlife...... (Post 10023097)

0.28 seconds :)

ad uk 05 May 2011 12:01 PM

have anti lag fitted if your worried about dropping of boost in second cause you wont then

TylerDurden 05 May 2011 04:20 PM

Ive had my scoob for less than a year and havent launched as I dont think my driving is good enough, but I am wondering if its possible to move off in second at high revs? Would this negate the need for a gear change and would it help launch the car easier?

stef_2010 05 May 2011 04:34 PM

Its not really that hard to launch your car ^

BLU 05 May 2011 04:40 PM

Hitting the rev limiter means the car has had its power cut to protect the engine so it will slow you down. Gear changes should be made just as you hit peak power and varies from engine to engine......


Originally Posted by TylerDurden (Post 10023922)
Ive had my scoob for less than a year and havent launched as I dont think my driving is good enough, but I am wondering if its possible to move off in second at high revs? Would this negate the need for a gear change and would it help launch the car easier?

No, but it would wear your clutch out quickly :freak3:

KAS35RSTI 05 May 2011 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by TylerDurden (Post 10023922)
Ive had my scoob for less than a year and havent launched as I dont think my driving is good enough, but I am wondering if its possible to move off in second at high revs? Would this negate the need for a gear change and would it help launch the car easier?

Do you mean launch in 2nd gear???? :eek:

jh1 05 May 2011 04:48 PM

I would change gear before you hit the limiter. P1 Drifter, 1st i would try some better tyres and see how you go. R888,s for instance.

ad uk 05 May 2011 04:50 PM

i wouldnt advice launchin in second mate u will just burn ur clutch out very quickly its noy hard to launch a scooby mek sure your in boost before you let clutch out and just whip clutch out. just make sure you on boost


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