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Westwood2006 20 April 2011 12:13 PM

260 quid for an ignition key?? Say it isn't so!!
 
<begin rant>

Fooking Hooooow muuuuch?

I just called Harwoods in Basingstoke for an ignition key price (MY04 UK WRX).

Key = £127
Modification from 2 button to 1 button = £25
Programing the key & Car, 1 hour = £65
plus VAT!!

= a whopping £260 :freak3:

They have got to be ferking kidding!!!!

<end rant>

Is there another way?

EH52WRX 20 April 2011 12:19 PM

NO other way fella. I have the same problem. I only have one key, and wanted to get another one, and that is what i was quoted.

tubbytommy 20 April 2011 12:55 PM

i got one for £55 but it didnt have the remote buttons on it.
i brought it as i didnt have a spare.
it just unlocks car and starts it.

joey_turbo 20 April 2011 01:01 PM

There is another way.

You can buy a blank key from ebay: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUBARU-2-Butto...item2eb0a54642
Less then 10 pounds. Get that cut only from a key cutters, so say another tenner.

But you'll need a transponder chip for it, get that from used Original key, off ebay. So say another 20 quid.
Put that transponder chip in your new key thats been cut. Then have Subaru or Harwoods (if thats a Subaru dealer, I don't know) program it to the ECU.

I done something simular on MY00, although I have a separate alarm fob that I can program myself. You would be able to also.

joey_turbo 20 April 2011 01:03 PM

But this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUBARU-REMOTE-...item4158b27d76

Just that fob alone usually goes for 25 quid. And you can program that, very easily yourself.

Westwood2006 20 April 2011 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by joey_turbo (Post 9997156)
There is another way.
...get that from used Original key, off ebay. So say another 20 quid.
Put that transponder chip in your new key thats been cut. Then have Subaru or Harwoods (if thats a Subaru dealer, I don't know) program it to the ECU.

I done something simular on MY00, although I have a separate alarm fob that I can program myself. You would be able to also.

Yeah Harwoods is a Subaru dealer.

Aaaaaah. So I can get used transponder key from another Impreza and have it matched with my car??? I didn't know that!

Nice one.

Now all I need is someone else who can do the programming so I can cut out the dealers on principle!!! ****ers!!

Westwood2006 20 April 2011 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by joey_turbo (Post 9997160)
But this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUBARU-REMOTE-...item4158b27d76

Just that fob alone usually goes for 25 quid. And you can program that, very easily yourself.

So are you saying that these key fobs are easily re programmable and that they will work with a MY04 car??

If that's the case could you please point me in the direction of some instructions & info?

Cheers.

joey_turbo 20 April 2011 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Westwood2006 (Post 9997194)
So are you saying that these key fobs are easily re programmable and that they will work with a MY04 car??

If that's the case could you please point me in the direction of some instructions & info?

Cheers.


Yes.

If I was you, I'd get that bought. There are people bidding twice as much for the same thing:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Subaru-2-Butto...item3a651f9451

Programming instructions: https://www.scoobynet.com/security-1...a-key-fob.html

The transponder in the key will still need porgramming. Its possible the key cutters could do this too, by cloning your original key, but they might not be able to write to a original chip.

bugeyejohn 20 April 2011 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Westwood2006 (Post 9997180)
Yeah Harwoods is a Subaru dealer.

Aaaaaah. So I can get used transponder key from another Impreza and have it matched with my car??? I didn't know that!

Nice one.

Now all I need is someone else who can do the programming so I can cut out the dealers on principle!!! ****ers!!

As far as i know all engine mappers can code the keys to your ecu,some do it for free if your getting a map done.

Westwood2006 20 April 2011 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by bugeyejohn (Post 9997307)
As far as i know all engine mappers can code the keys to your ecu,some do it for free if your getting a map done.

I am getting a remap in a couple of months! This great info. Cheers.

Westwood2006 20 April 2011 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by joey_turbo (Post 9997298)
Yes.

If I was you, I'd get that bought. There are people bidding twice as much for the same thing:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Subaru-2-Butto...item3a651f9451

Programming instructions: https://www.scoobynet.com/security-1...a-key-fob.html

The transponder in the key will still need porgramming. Its possible the key cutters could do this too, by cloning your original key, but they might not be able to write to a original chip.

Cool. That's plenty of research for me to get my teeth into! Thanks for taking the time to respond. :thumb:

Westwood2006 20 April 2011 03:55 PM

Jesus. People on the Internet "bricking" their cars!! I might try programming in the dealer carpark just behind the service bays!

joey_turbo 20 April 2011 05:59 PM

Huh? NOt from programming a fob, surely not

Sabas 20 April 2011 09:18 PM

I try and avoid Harwoods in Bstoke, don't have a subaru bloke really any more

my94wrx 20 April 2011 09:34 PM

i had a key cut at the local shoe smiths and it worked fine and to get round the remote, lock unlock problem i just hacksawed off what was left of the key blade so i could still use the sigma alarm.

Westwood2006 21 April 2011 10:05 AM

I think I have figured out how to program new key fobs but I need the pin code... which obviously I do not have :brickwall

Does anyone know if this will work for MY04 UK WRX (taken from https://www.scoobynet.com/security-1...key-fob.html):


Originally Posted by Sigma Sam (Post 5030702)
Are you aware that you can re-set your PIN?
Provided you have a working Radio Key and can disarm the system, carry out the following:
- Arm and then Disarm the system using a working Radio Key.
- Within 30 seconds of disarming, type into the keypad- *17856*92*wxyz*wxyz# (where wxyz is your new PIN code)
- Arm the system with the Radio Key
- You should now be able to disarm the system using the new PIN code

For anyone else reading this post, the sequences described inthis post will only work on the M-series range and Subaru systems. Earlier Sigma ranges such as the SG range can only be programmed with a dealer programmer and the latest S-series range requires the use of different numbers.
SS


mark_j 21 April 2011 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Westwood2006 (Post 9997051)
<begin rant>

Fooking Hooooow muuuuch?

I just called Harwoods in Basingstoke for an ignition key price (MY04 UK WRX).

Key = £127
Modification from 2 button to 1 button = £25
Programing the key & Car, 1 hour = £65
plus VAT!!

= a whopping £260 :freak3:

They have got to be ferking kidding!!!!

<end rant>

Is there another way?

mate think yourself lucky it wasn't a Merc, paid £400 for replacment for my E320

Westwood2006 26 April 2011 06:13 PM

Total result. I scored a single button COJ12 key from eBay for £25 including postage. It arrived today and I did this procedure:

Using a working Radio Key:
- Arm and then Disarm the system using a working Radio Key.
- Within 30 seconds of disarming, type into the keypad- *17856*91*n# (where n is the total number of keys required to work the system)
- Press each Radio Key briefly in turn (the dash board LED will flash and the siren beep each time)
- Once the nth Radio Key has been programmed, you should be able to arm/disarm the system using any of the Radio Keys programmed.

It is essential that all Radio Keys required to operate the system are programmed together. Any keys not present during the programming sequence above will no longer operate the system.


You have to be quick on the key pad though. Took me a couple of attempts.. but I still completed the job in less than 2 minutes (1 hour labour Subaru??? Really??? :cuckoo:)

Anyway, I now have 2 remote working keys... Wooooo!

I just need to get a key cut and swap the guts over.

Job done! £260 my ass!! **** you Subaru! This whole job is going to cost £35 :cool:

Thanks to joey_turbo for giving me the ideas :thumb:

acstua 26 April 2011 06:26 PM

i think you will still have issues with the immob chip?
surely it needs to be programmed for your car?

ive got a single button key thingy and a cut key blade , just not got around to trying it yet

Westwood2006 26 April 2011 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by acstua (Post 10007733)
surely it needs to be programmed for your car?

You know? I don't know you from a bar of soap and I'm sure you are a nice guy, probably popular amongst your peers and all but I might have well just written this:

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This forum ****ing sucks sometimes. Jesus :brickwall

Or did I just get trolled? In which case haaaaaaaaaaaaa! You totally got me. Nice one etc etc. :freak3:

acstua 26 April 2011 06:41 PM

er i was being completely honest.... but thanks for that anyhow.....

i was under the impression there is another chip inside the key unit, the keyfob u have programmed is for the alarm
then theres the chip for the immobilser which i thought was seperate?

if im totally wrong, then bonus as ill be able to get my ebay keyfob working :)

but thanks for teh blah blah blah anyhow :/

Westwood2006 26 April 2011 06:56 PM

Well I did that I said I did in #18 and I now have 2 keys that remotely unlock and remobilize my car.

acstua 26 April 2011 07:02 PM

okies good stuff.

it was the reason i stopped going any further with mine, as i thought id get the doors unlocked etc and turn the key for it not to turn over :/
i shall have a crack at sorting mine out again now

looking above from Joeys post was the sorta thing i had read that got me thinking it wouldnt work, the transponder stuff etc

if its anything like mine the keyblade is well stuck, or even moulded into the key, looks like a right arse to free up :/

stuart148 26 April 2011 07:05 PM

iv got a single button key/ remote
, £17 posted , just needs a new blade to cut to yours


any one ??

stu

Westwood2006 26 April 2011 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by acstua (Post 10007828)
if its anything like mine the keyblade is well stuck, or even moulded into the key, looks like a right arse to free up :/

Yeah. Not sure what to do about that bit yet. Like you say... stuck fast. I don't think getting just the metal blade and swapping them is the best way forward for that reason. No doubt you'd get it out but how would the new blade fit?

I can get 2 button COJ12 blanks easy for a couple of quid but not 1 button. I sent some ebay messages asking if the Subaru key front would be inter changeable with the pattern one. No one seems to know but one chap said he'd refund me if it didn't swap over.

I'm going to sleep on it and keep on eBaying. Something will turn up. The programming (or should I say "electronic marrying of the car and used key") bit was most challenging in my mind... the rest is just mechanics.

I'm on the right path.

Westwood2006 26 April 2011 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by stuart148 (Post 10007835)
iv got a single button key/ remote
, £17 posted , just needs a new blade to cut to yours

That's a great deal.... just a couple of days late for me though!

There are a few on eBay for £35 quid by the same seller. The one I found was misspelt and I talked him into ending early for me... he hadn't had a single bid.

Grade A Subaru had / have a single key and matching ignition barrel for £45. I might have gone for it if they had 2 keys... this purchase would have been kind of pointless in my situation.

Allegedly you can program up to 4 keys to one car. We just need a neat way of sorting the metal part of the key and we will be golden.

stuart148 26 April 2011 08:12 PM

could i tempt you with it for 15 posted ?? as its no good to me

stu

SkydiveMacca 26 April 2011 08:14 PM

Silly question, but where is the transponder coded to? Is it the ECU?

I've replaced the ECU on my bugeye, and only have one key. I have a cat1 system fitted (along with other security measures) which covers the immob side of things, so aren't fussed if I lose the factory fitted option.

I only have one key, with no remote buttons for it - again, the cat1 alarm has remote open / lock etc, and need another key.

Is there a way of doing this, and not needing to code it?

Timpsons in town have said they can cut a key (they have nissan blanks I think, which are useable they said), and programme it if needed, but the coding is the expensive part, so if I can do away with it, that would be cool.

Westwood2006 26 April 2011 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by stuart148 (Post 10008063)
could i tempt you with it for 15 posted ?? as its no good to me

stu

Yes, you could. Does it say COJ12 on the back and is it a single button job? It is in reasonable condition and does it work?

stuart148 26 April 2011 08:20 PM

yes mate its every thing you said , i bought it as a spare for my wr1 but never and ill get it in the post in the morn ;-)

stu


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