Toyosports TD05 20G..........
does anyone have one of these fitted or know anything about them?
i am considering one of these instead of a VF43 anyfeedback or information given would be great.....thank you:thumb: (i have a MY07 Hawkeye WRK UK) |
Hi there these turbo's are Chinese fake/knock off,you will be very disappointed(if this turbo will last 1 year you will be lucky,probably can't make big boost and probably can't make power,some people these get refurb/rebalancing and after this will make boost and last longer),best way if you are source genuine AFP TD05-20G.
Check feedback of Toyosports on eBay... |
Or talk to Harvey on here about one of his hybrid models. Will your hawkeye wrx cope with the power and torque from a 20G, in terms of the engine internals and the gearbox? Some say above 350/350 starts risking breakage, particularly of the engine internals
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The chinese copies & ebay turbos are not worth it trust me on that. Seen one last 200 miles due to oil seal failure at 0.9 bar.
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These fakes are prone to blowing up and spitting its guts into your induction system causing huge amounts of hassle
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not looking good then
thanks for the replies folks:thumb: |
Why would you not want a VF43 / VF48?
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Originally Posted by Scooby Arthur
(Post 9748383)
Why would you not want a VF43 / VF48?
just looking into other options and getting advice:thumb: |
What power are you after and what's your budget?
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Originally Posted by s70rjw
(Post 9748741)
What power are you after and what's your budget?
i was comparing the cost of a used vf43 against these new 20g i want to be running at least 360bhp :thumb: |
Well for 360bhp your going to need some decent supporting mods, ie brakes, clutch possably, gearbox may or may not take the strain due to the torque, engine reliability (the 2.5's are not a good block to tune in standard form), just little bits you have to be aware of before going down this route.....
Tony:) |
Used VF43 IRO £350-£400
Used AFP 20g £500 But the 20g is more than likely needing bigger injectors or the fuel pressure bumped up (later is cheaper) and possibly a decent air intake. The 20g will hopefully give you some 30 hp more than the VF43, while only losing out torque below about 2700 rpm. I found the VF43 felt like it started to die off after 5000+rpm but the 20g gallops up to the rev limiter - this is on the same engine as yours. Dynamix may be able to shed more light on pushing the VF43 to the limit as he started off with one before moving on to rather bigger things. |
Originally Posted by Butty
(Post 9749545)
I found the VF43 felt like it started to die off after 5000+rpm but the 20g gallops up to the rev limiter - this is on the same engine as yours.
Tony:D |
Originally Posted by TonyBurns
(Post 9749540)
Well for 360bhp your going to need some decent supporting mods, ie brakes, clutch possably, gearbox may or may not take the strain due to the torque, engine reliability (the 2.5's are not a good block to tune in standard form), just little bits you have to be aware of before going down this route.....
Tony:) clutch uprated:thumb: brakes??? i want more power not faster braking lol;) again thank you |
Originally Posted by Butty
(Post 9749545)
Used VF43 IRO £350-£400
Used AFP 20g £500 But the 20g is more than likely needing bigger injectors or the fuel pressure bumped up (later is cheaper) and possibly a decent air intake. The 20g will hopefully give you some 30 hp more than the VF43, while only losing out torque below about 2700 rpm. I found the VF43 felt like it started to die off after 5000+rpm but the 20g gallops up to the rev limiter - this is on the same engine as yours. Dynamix may be able to shed more light on pushing the VF43 to the limit as he started off with one before moving on to rather bigger things. "galloping up to the rev limiter" sounds like my kind of thing lol:lol1: thank you sir |
Originally Posted by whiteknuckleride
(Post 9749613)
so you have experience of both turbos :thumb:
"galloping up to the rev limiter" sounds like my kind of thing lol:lol1: thank you sir Tony:) |
i already have a exedy uprated clutch fitted and from a previous post an uprated walbro fuel pump
cheers Tony |
You WILL need better brakes and to get 360 better intercooler. VF43 holds boost to 6000RPM, you wouldnt want to push the WRX 2.5 past that.
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Originally Posted by whiteknuckleride
(Post 9749606)
brakes??? i want more power not faster braking lol;) again thank you |
Originally Posted by TonyBurns
(Post 9749586)
Same cc, not the same engine as yours ;)
Tony:D It is the gearbox that's the weakest link though. The Andy Forest website has a realistic breakdown of mods needed for each lift in power. |
Originally Posted by RA Dunk
(Post 9750099)
and with more power you need better breaks to stop it or you just might find your self in a bit of trouble.
more power does not need more braking the braking distance from 50 mph is exactly the same if you have 200bhp or 900bhp the braking distance from 70 mph is exactly the same if you have 200bhp or 900bhp the braking distance from 90 mph is exactly the same if you have 200bhp or 900bhp FACT but thanks for your concern:thumb: |
Originally Posted by Scooby Arthur
(Post 9750052)
You WILL need better brakes and to get 360 better intercooler. VF43 holds boost to 6000RPM, you wouldnt want to push the WRX 2.5 past that.
but with ref to the intercooler i agree and am fully aware of uprating the intercooler - thanks for the advice:thumb: |
Originally Posted by whiteknuckleride
(Post 9750134)
i know what you mean but you are wrong
more power does not need more braking the braking distance from 50 mph is exactly the same if you have 200bhp or 900bhp the braking distance from 70 mph is exactly the same if you have 200bhp or 900bhp the braking distance from 90 mph is exactly the same if you have 200bhp or 900bhp FACT but thanks for your concern:thumb: |
Hi mate :thumb:
VF43 every day of the week on your car - it is awesome and have several 2.5 wrxs that I have mapped that have done a few years at 350bhp without issues. perfect turbo for the 2.5 and a great upgrade on the wrx. 20G will take you into things breaking territory and with your experiences I would be inclined to stop shy of that - the extra 20bhp (if it performs to that level - which i doubt it would) for the 20g isnt worth it. VF43 or VF48 all day long for me - I love them :) |
Originally Posted by RA Dunk
(Post 9750155)
ohh dear, misguided youth at it's best. :Whatever_
during my youth i went to school simple physics uprated brakes make you stop quicker therefore reducing your braking distance - having more power does not reduce your braking ability !!! reduced driving ability causes accidents not standard brakes bless you and your patronising comments but hey - you spend your dosh so you can tell ya mates ya got some wopping 8 pots on the front lol i think you will notice my thread is simply asking about about a turbo - not brakes, colour of my motor, size of my exhaust or anything else but again thank you for you input:thumb: |
Originally Posted by dynamix
(Post 9750195)
Hi mate :thumb:
VF43 every day of the week on your car - it is awesome and have several 2.5 wrxs that I have mapped that have done a few years at 350bhp without issues. perfect turbo for the 2.5 and a great upgrade on the wrx. 20G will take you into things breaking territory and with your experiences I would be inclined to stop shy of that - the extra 20bhp (if it performs to that level - which i doubt it would) for the 20g isnt worth it. VF43 or VF48 all day long for me - I love them :) that puts pay to the 20g then anyone know of a VF43 or VF48 for sale?????? |
Good luck!
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You WILL need better brakes |
Originally Posted by Brun
(Post 9750839)
Utter and complete tosh - better brakes are only required if you driving style demands it. I would have no problem building a 400bhp+ car and retain the std brakes as i simply would not require anything better!
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Originally Posted by whiteknuckleride
(Post 9750134)
i know what you mean but you are wrong
more power does not need more braking the braking distance from 90 mph is exactly the same if you have 200bhp or 900bhp FACT but thanks for your concern:thumb: |
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