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trio 24 November 2010 05:38 PM

horrendous fuel consumption
 
Hi ive just bought a nissan vanette, on an 02 plate, i drive 120-140 miles a day to work and back. Since buying the van ive put £100 of deisel in it, and done 500 miles, this equates to roughly 25mpg, its not loaded full of gear and i sit a 70 on the motor way, 80%of the journey is motorway driving. the van does have a 2.3 engines but i was expecting slightly better fuel consumpion than this, am i being unresonable to expect 40-50 mpg, anyone got any ideas on why it s so bad?

Thanks Tristan

zip106 24 November 2010 05:44 PM

The reason it's so bad is because......... it's a Nissan Vanette. :thumb:

trio 24 November 2010 06:03 PM

maybe, but that still doesnt explain why its as bad on fuel as my 350bhp type-r

fatscoobfella1 24 November 2010 06:12 PM

****ty designed diesel engine,weighty and aerodynamics of an Accrington brick..

Try dropping your speed to 60 mph on the motorway and see your MPG go up!

ALi-B 24 November 2010 06:17 PM

Aren't those things flat out at 80mph? So 70 mph is really pushing it.

I think the main problem is its normally aspirated (diesels like lots of air) and has indirect injection (nearly everything is direct injection these days) and its probably not really geared for motorway use either. Reliable, yes, but performance and economy aren't at the top of the agenda (Toyota vans from the same era are the same).

Bit like my old works non-turbo Berlingo: 20 seconds to 60mph and 85mph max with a tailwind. Consequentally it'd only do about 30mpg max on daily trips from the Midlands to Watford at 70mph, which for a small van is terrible. But if I stuck to 50mph it would do over 45mpg! I hated that van it nearly drive me insane with slow-lane boredom.

Old shape 1990's Transits used to be the same, boy did they guzzle diesel if taken above 50mph.

ALi-B 24 November 2010 06:23 PM

Yup: This is the specs for the people carrier version of the same van: http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/...px?deriv=12090

0-60mph in 26.9 seconds. And 30mpg :eek:

J4CKO 24 November 2010 06:30 PM

Cant base you expectations on new Diesel superminis with modern engines, just be glad it isnt a petrol !

robby 24 November 2010 06:56 PM

i drive a new Sprinter LWB at work, doing 150-160 miles a day on A and B roads (not hanging about) i use on average £32 a day in fuel
This isn't exactly loaded but at times can have maybe 1T for an hour or so

stilover 24 November 2010 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by trio (Post 9731812)
Hi ive just bought a nissan vanette, on an 02 plate, i drive 120-140 miles a day to work and back. Since buying the van ive put £100 of deisel in it, and done 500 miles, this equates to roughly 25mpg,

That ain't good. Not good at all.

I get more than that out of Nissans 3.7 V6.

dpb 24 November 2010 07:22 PM

I think we got more out of a 1.6 petrol luton boxed transit circa '93

BOB.T 24 November 2010 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by trio (Post 9731812)
am i being unresonable to expect 40-50 mpg


Yes :)

alanbell 24 November 2010 10:31 PM

Ive a transit 140 bhp with remap to 200bhp averages 30 mpg ,

Jimpreza 24 November 2010 11:27 PM

I have a 2009 vauxhall vivaro diesel 115bhp and get 35 mpg

gallois 24 November 2010 11:30 PM

i used to have a 2.4 diesel hilux-surf auto, used to get about 24mpg.

Andy M3 25 November 2010 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by fatscoobfella1 (Post 9731904)
****ty designed diesel engine,weighty and aerodynamics of an Accrington brick..

Try dropping your speed to 60 mph on the motorway and see your MPG go up!

or slightly less - avoid full throttle and braking :Suspiciou

hodgy0_2 25 November 2010 11:26 AM

and tuck in behind an Arctic -- (the addded tension keeps the boredom at bay too)

Reffro 25 November 2010 12:16 PM

Sorry fella, but I have to agree with everything above. The Vanette is a pup, the engine is so wholly underpowered and of such ancient design that you have to thrash it to maintain progress and consequently destroy any chance of decent fuel economy. Just be thankful you don't have one with the original 2.0d NA engine. When on sale new as the Serena (The car from which it was derived), it was the UK's least accelerative car, 0-60mph in 32secs!!

Slowing down is all you can do in this instance to get back some semblance of economy, but it will never be above 36mpg on the motorway, even if driven by a nun. The official Combined Average MPG for the Serena 2.3d is 29.3mpg, so the 25mpg you quote is on the mark I would say.

ALi-B 25 November 2010 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 9733015)
and tuck in behind an Arctic -- (the addded tension keeps the boredom at bay too)

Our Seat sees a 5mpg improvement just by tailgating a HGV. :D With the cruise control set, MPG drops as soon as I move into an empty an lane. Pity they are restricted to 56mph. :( (Although in the Vanette's case than might be advantageous - as it can keep up without thrashing it ;) ).

Boredom can also be relieved by hunting for a Merc Sprinter or VW Crafter Hi-top crusing at a higher constant speed (without a fast-brake-fast-brake-fast-brake driver) and try to tailgate that instead :D

trio 25 November 2010 05:28 PM

thanks for the replys, maybe i should have looked into these before i went and paid cash for one, i never expected it to be so bad on fuel, i might put a tow bar on the type-r and buy a trailer and see better fuel economy for a works vehicle, and leave the vanette for the weekends:brickwall

Thanks Trio

hodgy0_2 25 November 2010 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 9733368)
Boredom can also be relieved by hunting for a Merc Sprinter or VW Crafter Hi-top crusing at a higher constant speed (without a fast-brake-fast-brake-fast-brake driver) and try to tailgate that instead :D

agreed a well and smoothly driven Merc Sprinter is the holy grail -- but about as rare a Unicorn sh1t - sadly

robby 25 November 2010 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 9733666)
agreed a well and smoothly driven Merc Sprinter is the holy grail -- but about as rare a Unicorn sh1t - sadly

Hmm - that's why i've always got someone sniffing my rear doors :)

alanbell 25 November 2010 09:53 PM

Ive got 3 sprinters 2 04 plates 1 05 plate all 311 ,s and 1 transit the transit is the fastest


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