horrendous fuel consumption
Hi ive just bought a nissan vanette, on an 02 plate, i drive 120-140 miles a day to work and back. Since buying the van ive put £100 of deisel in it, and done 500 miles, this equates to roughly 25mpg, its not loaded full of gear and i sit a 70 on the motor way, 80%of the journey is motorway driving. the van does have a 2.3 engines but i was expecting slightly better fuel consumpion than this, am i being unresonable to expect 40-50 mpg, anyone got any ideas on why it s so bad?
Thanks Tristan |
The reason it's so bad is because......... it's a Nissan Vanette. :thumb:
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maybe, but that still doesnt explain why its as bad on fuel as my 350bhp type-r
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****ty designed diesel engine,weighty and aerodynamics of an Accrington brick..
Try dropping your speed to 60 mph on the motorway and see your MPG go up! |
Aren't those things flat out at 80mph? So 70 mph is really pushing it.
I think the main problem is its normally aspirated (diesels like lots of air) and has indirect injection (nearly everything is direct injection these days) and its probably not really geared for motorway use either. Reliable, yes, but performance and economy aren't at the top of the agenda (Toyota vans from the same era are the same). Bit like my old works non-turbo Berlingo: 20 seconds to 60mph and 85mph max with a tailwind. Consequentally it'd only do about 30mpg max on daily trips from the Midlands to Watford at 70mph, which for a small van is terrible. But if I stuck to 50mph it would do over 45mpg! I hated that van it nearly drive me insane with slow-lane boredom. Old shape 1990's Transits used to be the same, boy did they guzzle diesel if taken above 50mph. |
Yup: This is the specs for the people carrier version of the same van: http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/...px?deriv=12090
0-60mph in 26.9 seconds. And 30mpg :eek: |
Cant base you expectations on new Diesel superminis with modern engines, just be glad it isnt a petrol !
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i drive a new Sprinter LWB at work, doing 150-160 miles a day on A and B roads (not hanging about) i use on average £32 a day in fuel
This isn't exactly loaded but at times can have maybe 1T for an hour or so |
Originally Posted by trio
(Post 9731812)
Hi ive just bought a nissan vanette, on an 02 plate, i drive 120-140 miles a day to work and back. Since buying the van ive put £100 of deisel in it, and done 500 miles, this equates to roughly 25mpg,
I get more than that out of Nissans 3.7 V6. |
I think we got more out of a 1.6 petrol luton boxed transit circa '93
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Originally Posted by trio
(Post 9731812)
am i being unresonable to expect 40-50 mpg
Yes :) |
Ive a transit 140 bhp with remap to 200bhp averages 30 mpg ,
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I have a 2009 vauxhall vivaro diesel 115bhp and get 35 mpg
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i used to have a 2.4 diesel hilux-surf auto, used to get about 24mpg.
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Originally Posted by fatscoobfella1
(Post 9731904)
****ty designed diesel engine,weighty and aerodynamics of an Accrington brick..
Try dropping your speed to 60 mph on the motorway and see your MPG go up! |
and tuck in behind an Arctic -- (the addded tension keeps the boredom at bay too)
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Sorry fella, but I have to agree with everything above. The Vanette is a pup, the engine is so wholly underpowered and of such ancient design that you have to thrash it to maintain progress and consequently destroy any chance of decent fuel economy. Just be thankful you don't have one with the original 2.0d NA engine. When on sale new as the Serena (The car from which it was derived), it was the UK's least accelerative car, 0-60mph in 32secs!!
Slowing down is all you can do in this instance to get back some semblance of economy, but it will never be above 36mpg on the motorway, even if driven by a nun. The official Combined Average MPG for the Serena 2.3d is 29.3mpg, so the 25mpg you quote is on the mark I would say. |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 9733015)
and tuck in behind an Arctic -- (the addded tension keeps the boredom at bay too)
Boredom can also be relieved by hunting for a Merc Sprinter or VW Crafter Hi-top crusing at a higher constant speed (without a fast-brake-fast-brake-fast-brake driver) and try to tailgate that instead :D |
thanks for the replys, maybe i should have looked into these before i went and paid cash for one, i never expected it to be so bad on fuel, i might put a tow bar on the type-r and buy a trailer and see better fuel economy for a works vehicle, and leave the vanette for the weekends:brickwall
Thanks Trio |
Originally Posted by ALi-B
(Post 9733368)
Boredom can also be relieved by hunting for a Merc Sprinter or VW Crafter Hi-top crusing at a higher constant speed (without a fast-brake-fast-brake-fast-brake driver) and try to tailgate that instead :D
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 9733666)
agreed a well and smoothly driven Merc Sprinter is the holy grail -- but about as rare a Unicorn sh1t - sadly
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Ive got 3 sprinters 2 04 plates 1 05 plate all 311 ,s and 1 transit the transit is the fastest
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