version 1 wrx import boost problem
hi all new to this so here goes i bought a wrx 1994 import :thumb:
engine wise the car has a front mounted intercooler and a hks dump valve i think its a recirculating valve when bought it had a miss fire so i thought the problem was the coil packs and plugs so i replaced them it seemed OK for a day or two and now it just does not boost properly? :mad: done the obvious checked vacuum pipes for leaks all seemed good ive put the green plugs together under the dashboard the cooling fan went on and off and the boost control valve was ticking lots not sure how to know if its ok last thing is what rpm is it supposed to boost at any advice would be great |
Originally Posted by dans wrx import v1
(Post 9698462)
hi all new to this so here goes i bought a wrx 1994 import :thumb:
engine wise the car has a front mounted intercooler and a hks dump valve i think its a recirculating valve when bought it had a miss fire so i thought the problem was the coil packs and plugs so i replaced them it seemed OK for a day or two and now it just does not boost properly? :mad: done the obvious checked vacuum pipes for leaks all seemed good ive put the green plugs together under the dashboard the cooling fan went on and off and the boost control valve was ticking lots not sure how to know if its ok last thing is what rpm is it supposed to boost at any advice would be great Try connecting the black wires and see what fault codes it throws at you. Secondly, what plugs do you fit and what did you gap them to? What makes you 'think' the HKS is a recirc? Turbo spool up and boost target times/rpm will depend on what supporting mods you have with the FMIC. I would expect a lot more work/mods to have been carried out either before or during the fitting of the FMIC. If it is not properly mapped/set up, then you will be suffering lag. So hard to say really. |
you need to connect the 2 black plugs mate, put key in ignition but dont turn ignition on, connect the 2 black plugs under the dash then turn the ignition on and count the flashes, it'll be a few quick flashes and a few slow flashes, this will be the code, then if you look on here the guide is somewhere that tells ya what the codes mean.:)
It would also be worth checking your maf as these are common to fail and will give the symptoms you've explained. They're approx £130 for a new one though. |
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9698739)
It would also be worth checking your maf as these are common to fail and will give the symptoms you've explained. They're approx £130 for a new one though.
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Originally Posted by b13bat
(Post 9699276)
How would you advise the OP does this??
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hi thanks for the replies my mistake the hks dump valve is not a recirculating valve!
the plugs are laser platinum and the gaps are 0.8. i just tryed plug in the black plugs together and all that happened was the alarm went off! i all so noticed that the check engine light dose not come on i have had the clocks out to see if any one has messed about with them all looks good |
the check engine light should illuminate every time you turn the ignition on, then after it self tests the system the light should go off, or if there's a problem it'll stay lit. Check that the bulb for the check engine light is still in the clocks and that it's not blown.
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i checked the bulb its still there it doesn't come on at all its not looking good then
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Originally Posted by dans wrx import v1
(Post 9699350)
i checked the bulb its still there it doesn't come on at all its not looking good then
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Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699335)
well sometimes if you smell the inside of the maf you can smell whether they're burning out, failing that another way would be to get hold of another one thats the same just to borrow and see if it eliminates the problem, i'm sure someone on here is local and has a green label maf he could use for 10 mins. But obviously you probably already knew this.:brickwall
Indeed the only sure way is to replace with a known servicable item.:thumb:
Originally Posted by dans wrx import v1
(Post 9699337)
hi thanks for the replies my mistake the hks dump valve is not a recirculating valve!
Originally Posted by dans wrx import v1
(Post 9699337)
the plugs are laser platinum and the gaps are 0.8.
Originally Posted by dans wrx import v1
(Post 9699337)
i just tryed plug in the black plugs together and all that happened was the alarm went off!
Originally Posted by dans wrx import v1
(Post 9699337)
i all so noticed that the check engine light dose not come on i have had the clocks out to see if any one has messed about with them all looks good
i checked the bulb its still there it doesn't come on at all its not looking good then You need to get it replaced, swap it with some less importent bulb, handbrake perhaps. But defo not the oil light. Then try the black wires again.:thumb: |
Originally Posted by b13bat
(Post 9699376)
I'm always interested as to how people think you can 'check' the servicability of a MAF unit. Smelling it is a new one on me ::lol1:
Indeed the only sure way is to replace with a known servicable item.:thumb: ok so you clearly dont know as much as you make out then.:lol1: So the CEL does not come on even under usual conditions? ie when the key is turned to acc.?? You need to get it replaced, swap it with some less importent bulb, handbrake perhaps. But defo not the oil light. Then try the black wires again.:thumb: either way my aim here was to help the OP, regardless of whether you wanted a p1ssing contest. Instead of posting a helpful reply to the question i can't understand why you felt the need to try and have a dig at me, if you knew how to test the maf why didn't you reply, don't scorn me for helping out. |
Originally Posted by dans wrx import v1
(Post 9699337)
i just tryed plug in the black plugs together and all that happened was the alarm went off!
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Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699387)
ok so you clearly dont know as much as you make out then.
I mearly said, i am always interested in how people claim they can confirm the serviability of the MAF. There is really only one way to 'test' it, that being with an oscilloscope. Other than that, replacment with a known good unit is the best way.
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699387)
by disconnecting the oil pressure bulb, the engines not exactly gonna loose oil pressure and sieze in the space of 2 minutes if the engine runs well any other time, but then again i'm talking to someone who clearly knows everything!!! or maybe you just think you do perhaps:lol:
As you will be aware, there are many causes for low oil pressure, these are usually not predictable and can occure at any time. I would rather run with no handbrake light as i can tell when my handbrake is on with my left hand.
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699387)
[B]either way my aim here was to help the OP,
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699387)
regardless of whether you wanted a p1ssing contest.
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699387)
Instead of posting a helpful reply to the question i can't understand why you felt the need to try and have a dig at me,
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699387)
if you knew how to test the maf why didn't you reply,
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699387)
don't scorn me for helping out.
I think you are being a little over sensitive my friend. Just because some one has a different view/take on a situation, that is no reason to throw your toys out of the pram. If i had scorned you, you would of known about it. The Subaru and it's associated Boxer engine can be a very fickle beast. There is always more to learn about them, as i have realised over the last 4 years. |
swapped bulbs now working re done the test and came back with
22 knock sensor 1 circuit malfunction 24 idle air control valve circuit malfunction 32 heated oxygen sensor 1 circuit malfunction 33 vehicle speed sensor signal malfunction not sore what to do next as cant a ford to replace all these parts and the alarm is a toad thanks |
Originally Posted by dans wrx import v1
(Post 9699549)
swapped bulbs now working re done the test and came back with
22 knock sensor 1 circuit malfunction 24 idle air control valve circuit malfunction 32 heated oxygen sensor 1 circuit malfunction 33 vehicle speed sensor signal malfunction not sore what to do next as cant a ford to replace all these parts and the alarm is a toad thanks How to here. |
Sorry to jump in on someone elses thread... but can you read the fault codes on a newage in the same way?
Jim |
Originally Posted by big_jimbob
(Post 9699617)
Sorry to jump in on someone elses thread... but can you read the fault codes on a newage in the same way?
Jim |
nice one mate
Originally Posted by b13bat
(Post 9699562)
Nice one, now you've sorted that, do a full ECU reset mate. Some of these codes may be historical/stored. So resetting will clear the old codes and give you an upto date reading.
How to here. |
Originally Posted by dans wrx import v1
(Post 9699712)
:luxhello::thumb: reset the codes now just 22 knock sensor code went for a spine and it went like s**t off a shovel then the light came back on and stopped boosting again then went back off and was good for a min so i think im going to replace the knock sensor thanks for the help:thumb:
Hopefully thats you sorted.:thumb: Don't you just love it when a plan comes together.:lol1: |
Originally Posted by b13bat
(Post 9699544)
At which point in my posts did you assume i claimed to know everything.
I mearly said, i am always interested in how people claim they can confirm the serviability of the MAF. There is really only one way to 'test' it, that being with an oscilloscope. Other than that, replacment with a known good unit is the best way. No not at all, i've diagnosed quite a few faulty mafs now using the same tricks and it's always worked for me I advised against removing the oil light bulb as it is a 'crucial' (albeit usually too late) warning light, and dependent on how long the OP takes to replace it, would mean he is running without that crucial indicator. As he seems to be now in respect to the CEL. I understand if he was going to drive the car for a while without it, but i suggested it as a quick check option nothing more, which in the grand scheme of things worked out in the end as the bulb was faulty, so my info was helpful. As you will be aware, there are many causes for low oil pressure, these are usually not predictable and can occure at any time. I would rather run with no handbrake light as i can tell when my handbrake is on with my left hand. :lol1:My aim is also to help the OP and anyone else, also to learn a little myself to continue the circle. If i want a 'p1ssing contest' mate, i'll hop over to NSR At what point did i have a dig at you. I'm not an tw4t, we both know your post was attempting to have a dig, i've used forums for a long time, i can tell when a question is a genuine one and when someone's replying sarcastically just to be a dickhead. As i said earlier, i am always interested to learn new ways of testing, so mearly asked you how you would do that. Too which i replied with my tried and tested ways which have worked for me the last 12 years i've been in the trade, you still tried to laugh it off like i was talking ****e and you clearly haven't even tried it yourself to confirm whether it's plausible info or not. Scorn you:lol1:, again where did i do that? In reference to the above comments i said dont scorn me for helping I think you are being a little over sensitive my friend. Just because some one has a different view/take on a situation, that is no reason to throw your toys out of the pram. No, i'm all for people having views and opinions, i just can't stand people who try and belittle others for their own views, which is clearly what you was attempting to do. If i had scorned you, you would of known about it. :lol1: The Subaru and it's associated Boxer engine can be a very fickle beast. There is always more to learn about them, as i have realised over the last 4 years. |
Originally Posted by dans wrx import v1
(Post 9699712)
:luxhello::thumb: reset the codes now just 22 knock sensor code went for a spine and it went like s**t off a shovel then the light came back on and stopped boosting again then went back off and was good for a min so i think im going to replace the knock sensor thanks for the help:thumb:
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Originally Posted by dans wrx import v1
(Post 9699712)
:luxhello::thumb: reset the codes now just 22 knock sensor code went for a spine and it went like s**t off a shovel then the light came back on and stopped boosting again then went back off and was good for a min so i think im going to replace the knock sensor thanks for the help:thumb:
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Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699771)
No not at all, i've diagnosed quite a few faulty mafs now using the same tricks and it's always worked for me
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699771)
I understand if he was going to drive the car for a while without it, but i suggested it as a quick check option nothing more, which in the grand scheme of things worked out in the end as the bulb was faulty, so my info was helpful.
In the 'grand scheme of things' it takes the same amount of time which ever bulb you change, only my suggestion imo was safer. As for your information being helpful. Imho, suggesting the MAF is at fault so early in the diagnostic process and with the symptoms provided was not at all helpful. As the final results show.
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699771)
I'm not an tw4t,
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699771)
we both know your post was attempting to have a dig,
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699771)
i've used forums for a long time, i can tell when a question is a genuine one and when someone's replying sarcastically just to be a dickhead.
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699771)
Too which i replied with my tried and tested ways which have worked for me the last 12 years i've been in the trade, you still tried to laugh it off like i was talking ****e and you clearly haven't even tried it yourself to confirm whether it's plausible info or not.
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699771)
In reference to the above comments i said dont scorn me for helping
Originally Posted by gazzawrx
(Post 9699771)
No, i'm all for people having views and opinions, i just can't stand people who try and belittle others for their own views, which is clearly what you was attempting to do.
For some one that says they use a lot of forums, you seem very single minded and uptight. Almost like you are not willing to accept anyone elses point of view, which to be part of any forum, you really need to be able to do. As for 'me' being a dickhead, well...:lol1: |
Originally Posted by madscoob
(Post 9699795)
, or the previous owner not clamping the passenger side pulleys when chainging cambelt as they slip 1/2 a tooth when you let the tensioner go if not clamped
thats a new one? apon putting the belt on these pulleys the correct way the tension between the pulleys keeps it in place? :wonder: |
Originally Posted by madscoob
(Post 9699795)
just a thought the knock sensor could be faulty or you could have knock , hope you aint running her on 95ron if you are that will be the cause of knock , or the previous owner not clamping the passenger side pulleys when chainging cambelt as they slip 1/2 a tooth when you let the tensioner go if not clamped
There is no error code for 'actual knock', hence the use of det cans etc. The code 22 is saying that the Knock 'Sensor' is operating outside of the pre-set parameters and needs to be replaced. Not that Knock/Det is occuring. Once replaced, if the OP is suffering knock/det then the sensor will instruct the ECU to pull the timing as far as nessisary to try and prevent damage. As the KS if fudged at the moment, it could well be miss reading and telling the ECU to pull the timing which could/will cause the cr@p running.:thumb: |
Originally Posted by b13bat
(Post 9699901)
That's fine by me. You stick to sniffing um. I'll stick to being a **** yeah
But you haven't a clue when the OP was going to be able to replace the oil light bulb. Hours, days,weeks? So, safer to assume later rather than sooner. In the 'grand scheme of things' it takes the same amount of time which ever bulb you change, only my suggestion imo was safer. As for your information being helpful. Imho, suggesting the MAF is at fault so early in the diagnostic process and with the symptoms provided was not at all helpful. As the final results show. are you for real, it would take less than 5 minutes to swap them over and back, he's probably spent more time than that testing other things I never said you was. You obviously have some self confidence/paranoia issues to say some thing like that. No i just have issues with people like you Again, incorrect. The statement says more about you than it does me. wake up you dozy cnut, we can go round in circles all day, you know what you was getting at. Just how do you manage that? With your magic nose perhaps. (thats sarcasm btw, just incase you can't smell it. Ooops, there i go again) Well so far my pointers as it were has been more help to the op than your bullsh1t replies so maybe my magic nose probably knows more than you. Admit it, you'll feel better:lol: Correct, i have never sniffed a MAF to assertain it's servicability, further more, i don't know anyone else that has either. I bet you've sniffed plenty of your own arsehole though so maybe you nose will be more trained than you think. ;) And at that time, i hadn't scorned you for anything. I think you are all for people having views and opinions. But you 'just can't stand people' airring them along side and against your own. Thats why you replied to me first isn't it , maybe you dont like having a newbie put you in your place. For some one that says they use a lot of forums, you seem very single minded and uptight. Almost like you are not willing to accept anyone elses point of view, which to be part of any forum, you really need to be able to do. Stop! read it back and think about what you've just said, you replied to my post first, questioning my ability, i didn't approach your opinion at all. however much bullsh1t it turned out to be. Read back the whole thread and see exactly whos posts have been of help.:luxhello: As for 'me' being a dickhead, well...Its true:lol1: To the op i'm sorry the threads gone like this mate, there's always a knob who turn out to be nothing more than a key board warrior.:o |
^^^^ What a very immature and juvenile post.^^^^
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