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sp00ks 19 July 2010 11:06 PM

horrible, horrible clunking :-(
 
Hey guys,

i have developed an annoying clunk coming from the rear passenger side.
the noise is kind of like a juddering/rumbling/knocking, it only occurs when i accelerate, change gear and go over bumps in the road (in bristol thats rather often!)

this noise has occured since i have replace both rear discs, shoes and pads few weeks ago. i have rebuilt the brakes 3 times over the past 2 weeks too make sure that everything is setting right and its pukka.

i have made sure that there are no rub marks on the dust cover from the disc, i have re-torqued up the hub nut on the offending side to no avail!
i have also greased and checked all joints for play and can't notice anything blinding obvious.

what an earth is wrong with her??? :wonder:

any help in the right direction much appreciated! :luxhello:

peter zippy reid 20 July 2010 12:06 AM

have you checked your shock absorber for leaks the rear passenger one is bad for it do a search plenty have had the same problem including me

newman90 20 July 2010 09:41 AM

that sounds like the shock absorber / top mount mate. give it a once over. clean it up and then check it after a drive for any leaks etc

sp00ks 20 July 2010 10:31 AM

I checked the shocker itself, but have not checked the top mount. What's the best way too check the top mount on a 99 impreza wagon?
I'm just baffled as it's all started since I hammered the rear brake discs off.

Cheers

newman90 20 July 2010 10:59 AM

im guessing the easiest way would be to take the sus arm off. if you was hammering hard might be worth checking your wheel bearing

sp00ks 20 July 2010 02:09 PM

Mmmm confused, isn't it just a case of looking at the top of the strut in the boot?
Iv already checked wheel bearing condition with the ok 9 and 3 method and was no play at all :-s

sp00ks 20 July 2010 02:09 PM

Mmmm confused, isn't it just a case of looking at the top of the strut in the boot?
Iv already checked wheel bearing condition with the ok 9 and 3 method and was no play at all :-s

newman90 20 July 2010 02:40 PM

well you can do that but it will be hard to completely inspect the whole strut while its on the car. if the bolts arent seized it shouldnt take you long to rip it off.

sp00ks 20 July 2010 07:11 PM

Ok will have a go, is here anyway that I could of knocked the arb through the bushes a tad and that could be the problem?

sp00ks 22 July 2010 09:13 PM

Right guys, I have had enough of this bloody car!!
I have checked the strut top mount and there is definately no problem with that. I have rechecked the shock absorber and it is fine, I have checked all bushes for play again and they are fine. I have had someone (heavy!!) bounce up and down in the boot whilst I was underneath the car and could not hear any noise which resembled what I am hearing in the car whilst I am driving.
The noise is gradually getting worse still, it occurs whilst I am driving over bumps, even very slight bumps. When changing gear, and when I lift off the throttle.
I am convinced that the sound is not suspension related.
Is it recommended to change the droplinks and arbs and see if that cures the problem as I was planning on changing these soon (not this soon though!)

If anybody can share any light on this I would very much appreciate it

sp00ks 22 July 2010 09:14 PM

Ps the sound is more of a knocking/rattle

prodriverules 22 July 2010 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by sp00ks (Post 9509281)
Right guys, I have had enough of this bloody car!!
I have checked the strut top mount and there is definately no problem with that. I have rechecked the shock absorber and it is fine, I have checked all bushes for play again and they are fine. I have had someone (heavy!!) bounce up and down in the boot whilst I was underneath the car and could not hear any noise which resembled what I am hearing in the car whilst I am driving.
The noise is gradually getting worse still, it occurs whilst I am driving over bumps, even very slight bumps. When changing gear, and when I lift off the throttle.
I am convinced that the sound is not suspension related.
Is it recommended to change the droplinks and arbs and see if that cures the problem as I was planning on changing these soon (not this soon though!)

If anybody can share any light on this I would very much appreciate it

even some one really heavy doesnt put the same amount of load and the speed of the load that the car does whilst moving,and also there is no way of visually checking shock absorbers mate but from what your saying it sounds very much like the shock as ive seen this loads of times with the same symtoms.

sp00ks 22 July 2010 09:36 PM

Ok chap, thanks. Is it likely that this would of happened from hitting the brake discs off several weeks ago. Because that is where this has all stemmed from....?
Thanks

prodriverules 22 July 2010 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by sp00ks (Post 9509345)
Ok chap, thanks. Is it likely that this would of happened from hitting the brake discs off several weeks ago. Because that is where this has all stemmed from....?
Thanks

possibly mate but could also be coincidentle,it can come on though when a car gets full extension on the shock whilst suspended abit like when you bleed brakes and the master cylinder goes cause its never been pushed through a full stroke and it buggers the seals.

sp00ks 22 July 2010 09:51 PM

So I guess next option is too get coilovers asap and see if this cures the problem? Whats the best way to make sure its the shock before I replace it with coilovers possibly unnecessary?
Thanks

prodriverules 22 July 2010 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by sp00ks (Post 9509393)
So I guess next option is too get coilovers asap and see if this cures the problem? Whats the best way to make sure its the shock before I replace it with coilovers possibly unnecessary?
Thanks

i know its a pain but you need to pull it off and get the spring of it and feel the tension it has when compressed and how much rebound is on it,should feel quite strong in both directions mate.

Tim(e) 22 July 2010 10:56 PM

The rear diffs can clunk sometimes can't they?

prodriverules 22 July 2010 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by Tim(e) (Post 9509584)
The rear diffs can clunk sometimes can't they?

sometimes but this can be identified by pry barring the diff and looking at the bushes mate

sp00ks 22 July 2010 11:13 PM

Ok so what other checks do you recommend? Before I take the strut off? Which I'm reluctant too do as I don't have a spring compressor.
Thanks tim, any guidance on dif knocking?
Thanks

carl heath 22 July 2010 11:15 PM

dont quote me but think the top mount is more common to fail on classics than shocks,had two classics and both of them i had topmount troubles.then i get a newage sti and end up having to replace all the shocks for coilovers,firstly i would identify the problem as nothing worse than spending money on your scooby and problem still there,good luck anyways mate.

prodriverules 22 July 2010 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by sp00ks (Post 9509608)
Ok so what other checks do you recommend? Before I take the strut off? Which I'm reluctant too do as I don't have a spring compressor.
Thanks tim, any guidance on dif knocking?
Thanks

if it was me id go round all the bushes etc again but in the road position ie not jacked up as when the suspension is fully extended it loads the bushes and takes out the play so do that and pm me back if you like and we can go from there mate.:thumb:

DisoDisp 22 July 2010 11:49 PM

seems to me like your endlink is loose/broken.

i had that a while ago in the front, symptoms are exactly as you described.

sp00ks 23 July 2010 12:01 AM

Diso, what are you referring too as the end link? are you referring too the drop links?
Cheers

DisoDisp 23 July 2010 12:26 AM

my terminology may be wrong, but that little piece of plastic between the roll/swaybar and the suspension.

My lower front nut was loose by around 1/4 turn, the clonking was driving me insane, and it was really hard to place, as sometimes it sounded like it was coming from the back.

once i took all the wheels off and had it jacked up, i tried all the endlinks, and the front right one moved up and down a whole lot. Tightened it, and bobs your uncle, problem solved.

Yours might possibly be as simple.

sp00ks 23 July 2010 11:06 PM

right guys thanks for replies, i have had some further investigations....
i have re-checked once again all bushes on the arb and drop links, and one of the bushes on the droplink too the opposite side that i am hearing the noise from is slightly worn... is this possibly the root of all problems?
im getting sick of this now!
is there anybody near too the bristol/gloucester area that you could reccomend too me, to get to have a quick look. or even better if there are any members on here who would be more than willing too take a quick shifty?
many thanks (sorry for being a bumbling pain!)

prodriverules 23 July 2010 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by sp00ks (Post 9511204)
right guys thanks for replies, i have had some further investigations....
i have re-checked once again all bushes on the arb and drop links, and one of the bushes on the droplink too the opposite side that i am hearing the noise from is slightly worn... is this possibly the root of all problems?
im getting sick of this now!
is there anybody near too the bristol/gloucester area that you could reccomend too me, to get to have a quick look. or even better if there are any members on here who would be more than willing too take a quick shifty?
many thanks (sorry for being a bumbling pain!)

how do you mean by slightly worn mate?

sp00ks 23 July 2010 11:59 PM

Well there is anfsir bit if play in the bush, not side too side but more of a moving around motion. Just weird that its on the opposite side that I am hearing knocking from :-s am thinking of getting some new droplinks and arb from powerstation tomorrow and just hoping for the best! Big 200 quid punt though lol.... Any advice?

prodriverules 24 July 2010 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by sp00ks (Post 9511297)
Well there is anfsir bit if play in the bush, not side too side but more of a moving around motion. Just weird that its on the opposite side that I am hearing knocking from :-s am thinking of getting some new droplinks and arb from powerstation tomorrow and just hoping for the best! Big 200 quid punt though lol.... Any advice?

im still more tilted toward the shocks as if it was the arb drop links then there would be quite obvious signs of wear and by the sounds of it there isnt enough to cause the knock you've got mate.

sp00ks 24 July 2010 12:29 AM

Ok, anybody you can recommend to replace shocks with bc's or similar close too Bristol area?

RS_Matt 25 July 2010 07:39 PM

My car is only 7 years old and I'm on my 3rd shock absorber, why the hell won't Subaru do a recall?


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