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Saalro 21 June 2010 05:02 PM

What coilover suspension? What have you got?
 
I'm looking to get coilover suspension, can you just tell me what coilovers you have and whether you rate it or not.

I'm thinking BC at the moment.

Thanks

mrmarc 21 June 2010 05:43 PM

bc's 6/5 sring rate on a MY02 sti.

absolutely fantastic.
its my daily driver and do 60miles a day and i find them very comfortable.

excellent price for what you get.

MarkC 21 June 2010 06:47 PM

Bc coilovers 5/4 spring rate on a classic impreza type r have them fitted a while now and cant fault them. perfect suspension for road use and comfortable.

stonejedi 21 June 2010 06:55 PM

bc coilovers 6/5 sping rating very smooth ride good upgrade for the money 03 sti

Saalro 21 June 2010 06:58 PM

I'm liking this are you all using the Br series?

I'm thinking of booking my car in at Scoobyworld for free sitting on the Br series.

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mr terzo 21 June 2010 07:16 PM

eibach pro street s fitted for over 3yrs cant fault them to be honest , wasn't that bothered about loads of damping and rebound adjustment as i figure that eibach know better than me how it should be set up

stonejedi 21 June 2010 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by Saalro (Post 9458944)
I'm liking this are you all using the Br series?

I'm thinking of booking my car in at Scoobyworld for free sitting on the Br series.

Thanks
Sam

yes,i'm using the br range of the bc coilovers i inquired about the inverted but i still went for the br range which give me better handling then the sti set up.

Saalro 21 June 2010 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 9458997)
yes,i'm using the br range of the bc coilovers i inquired about the inverted but i still went for the br range which give me better handling then the sti set up.

Why did you decided on the Br series in the end over the inverted?

Thanks

Saalro 21 June 2010 10:11 PM

Thanks everyone also :)

Keep the info coming!

Thanks

ScoobyNoobie 23 June 2010 02:57 PM

I'm interested in this too.

Having engine re-built over the next 2 wks, and suspension is next.
My 03 jap sti has the usual clunky rear shocks.

Its sitting on Tein lowering springs an standard shocks, but I find it a little hard on irish roads.

Can the BC's be made slightly softer than stock?

stonejedi 23 June 2010 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Saalro (Post 9459323)
Why did you decided on the Br series in the end over the inverted?

Thanks
Sam

when i asked bren he said there is not really no noticable difference between the 2,especially for a fast road and a few track days set up.plus the br series was cheaper.

stonejedi 23 June 2010 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by ScoobyNoobie (Post 9462070)
I'm interested in this too.

Having engine re-built over the next 2 wks, and suspension is next.
My 03 jap sti has the usual clunky rear shocks.

Its sitting on Tein lowering springs an standard shocks, but I find it a little hard on irish roads.

Can the BC's be made slightly softer than stock?

to answer your question yes when i fitted mine what really shocked me is that i was expecting a firmer ride but to be truthful they where smoother then my sti shocks and eibach springs. they are a nice upgrade for the price,plus you can also get a more softer spring rate when you order them.

ScoobyNoobie 23 June 2010 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 9462142)
to answer your question yes when i fitted mine what really shocked me is that i was expecting a firmer ride but to be truthful they where smoother then my sti shocks and eibach springs. they are a nice upgrade for the price,plus you can also get a more softer spring rate when you order them.


Ah, interesting.
Well maybe when I'm finished paying for the re-build i'll consider them then!
Getting new ACL's all round on rods, omega .5mm oversize pistons, bores honed, T-belt, tensioner, had injectors flow tested.
Got 3-inch full de-cat, so looking forward to gettin it back on the road, bar the cost if it!

Suspension has been annoying me since i got it in march though.

Saalro 23 June 2010 07:10 PM

One review i read said the BC’s are a good competitor for Tein Monos!

Thanks

JohnD 24 June 2010 11:54 AM

What is the country of manufacture of the BC units? Please don't say China!!:nono:

JohnD

MarkC 24 June 2010 12:10 PM

They are Manufactured in Taiwan

http://www.bcec.com.tw/history/company.html

ScoobyNoobie 24 June 2010 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 9462142)
to answer your question yes when i fitted mine what really shocked me is that i was expecting a firmer ride but to be truthful they where smoother then my sti shocks and eibach springs. they are a nice upgrade for the price,plus you can also get a more softer spring rate when you order them.

What is the range of available ride height on them compared to stock ones?

Tidgy 24 June 2010 01:11 PM

isnlt there a whole thread running about people getting nocking form them?

wouldn;t go near them myself.

why do you want coilovers? a decent set of shocks and springs are a better option unless you want to start playing with setups (most folks never touch them so there pointless). i run kyb shocks and eibach springs and handels extremly well.

ScoobyNoobie 24 June 2010 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 9463490)
isnlt there a whole thread running about people getting nocking form them?

wouldn;t go near them myself.

why do you want coilovers? a decent set of shocks and springs are a better option unless you want to start playing with setups (most folks never touch them so there pointless). i run kyb shocks and eibach springs and handels extremly well.

For me its purely a price thing. I dont particularly want to be able to play with settings.
I would like to be able to adjust the ride height and stifness though, so have a "Road setting" and "track day" setting.
However if they knock after a year or so that would turn me off big time.

Tidgy 24 June 2010 01:20 PM

kyb's are adjustable and eibachs lower the car by about 30mm, think there around £800 in a complete package with a rear anti roll bar, although not sure how up to date that price is.

ScoobyNoobie 24 June 2010 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 9463507)
kyb's are adjustable and eibachs lower the car by about 30mm, think there around £800 in a complete package with a rear anti roll bar, although not sure how up to date that price is.

With the tein lower springs and standard shocks on mine (not sure how much lower) i find the car a bit harsh, and find that it doesnt stop nearly as well is my totally standard 05 sti did, as if the road is at all bumpy or wet, it doesnt load up the front tires, and then abs kicks in.

Then, my shocks are really creaky, so they aren't damping as well as they should i imagine.

At £650 for a full set of BC's its hard to argue, if they wont creak in a years time, and can offer softer and harder than stock settings.

Tidgy 24 June 2010 01:34 PM

check if thats fitted or just supplied and also if it includes a full geom setup, not saying it doesn't but just check to make sure you don't have a surprise waiting

JohnD 24 June 2010 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by mark v4 coupe (Post 9463392)
They are Manufactured in Taiwan

http://www.bcec.com.tw/history/company.html

Oh dear! I was showing some interest until I heard that!
From experience of other (not car related) engineered products from China/Taiwan etc. I have to say that they look really good and well finished but are often made from cheese! Has anyone run these for 20+k without them wearing out?

JohnD

ScoobyNoobie 24 June 2010 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 9463535)
check if thats fitted or just supplied and also if it includes a full geom setup, not saying it doesn't but just check to make sure you don't have a surprise waiting

Thats only supplied.
But i could fit myself, and geo setup is about 60-100 quid

bren@apex 24 June 2010 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 9463490)
isnlt there a whole thread running about people getting nocking form them?

wouldn;t go near them myself.

If you read the thread in full then youd be amazed at the number of people who have rectified problems NOT associated with their BCs that have resolved their complaint.

And to improve ride quality further BC Racing coilovers all now come with a standard type rear top mount that eliminates any chance of an issue associaited with the noise transmitted through a stiffer than OE top mount design.


Originally Posted by JohnD (Post 9463556)
Oh dear! I was showing some interest until I heard that!
From experience of other (not car related) engineered products from China/Taiwan etc. I have to say that they look really good and well finished but are often made from cheese! Has anyone run these for 20+k without them wearing out?

JohnD

Thats noncense, Taiwanese quality control and production methods are far closer to those implemented and worked to in Japan than China. Heres some of the equipment used in BC Racings factory, I dont see any evidence of any dairy based products here:

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/inde...vel=album&id=3

Some pics from the link above:

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/plog...c-racing/2.jpg

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/plog...-racing/21.jpg

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/plog...-racing/18.jpg

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/plog...-racing/20.jpg

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/plog...-racing/13.jpg

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/plog...c-racing/8.jpg

micaredwrx 24 June 2010 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by JohnD (Post 9463556)
Has anyone run these for 20+k without them wearing out?
JohnD

I've had mine (BC's) for 15 months and covered 10k+ miles including numerous trackdays and a ring trip and can't fault them in any way.

Saalro 24 June 2010 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by bren@apex (Post 9463846)
If you read the thread in full then youd be amazed at the number of people who have rectified problems NOT associated with their BCs that have resolved their complaint.

And to improve ride quality further BC Racing coilovers all now come with a standard type rear top mount that eliminates any chance of an issue associaited with the noise transmitted through a stiffer than OE top mount design.



Thats noncense, Taiwanese quality control and production methods are far closer to those implemented and worked to in Japan than China. Heres some of the equipment used in BC Racings factory, I dont see any evidence of any dairy based products here:

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/inde...vel=album&id=3

Some pics from the link above:

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/plog...c-racing/2.jpg

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/plog...-racing/21.jpg

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/plog...-racing/18.jpg

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/plog...-racing/20.jpg

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/plog...-racing/13.jpg

http://www.apexv8.com/apgallery/plog...c-racing/8.jpg

Can't fault that! Looks legit!

Bren what connection do you have with BC Racing?

Thanks

Saalro 24 June 2010 09:18 PM

Also what do you make of this:

http://www.ek9.org/forum/brakes/2445...ort-story.html

?

Thanks

andyswagon 24 June 2010 09:26 PM

the bc coilovers are excellent and i've fitted a fair few sets (at a guess 30+), the new rear top mounts have cured the knocking that people said happened and if i had the money i would definatley have a set fitted on my car by now!

keep up the good work bren!

andy

Saalro 24 June 2010 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by andyswagon (Post 9464230)
the bc coilovers are excellent and i've fitted a fair few sets (at a guess 30+), the new rear top mounts have cured the knocking that people said happened and if i had the money i would definatley have a set fitted on my car by now!

keep up the good work bren!

andy

What was the old top mount like, is the new one the rose mount?

Thanks


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