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Suicide bombers 'enemies of Islam'
This should get some of you frothing at the mouth as the following contains the words "Muslim", "Islam", "Terrorism" and "Suicide bombings". ;)
Nice to see a counter-balanced view in the press for once :)
Originally Posted by Press Association
Pakistan-born Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said there were no "ifs or buts" about terrorism and such acts had no justification in the name of Islam.
In a news conference attended by MPs, representatives from the Metropolitan Police, charitable organisations, think-tanks and other groups, he called on Islamic leaders to convey the message that acts of terrorism cut people off as true followers of Islam. "They can't claim that their suicide bombings are martyrdom operations and that they become the heroes of the Muslim Umma (the wider Muslim community), no, they become heroes of hellfire, and they are leading towards hellfire," he said. "There is no place for any martyrdom and their act is never, ever to be considered Jihad," he added. Dr Qadri, who spoke at length in both English and Arabic before his audience, said his fatwa - a religious edict or ruling - was an "absolute" condemnation of terrorism without "any excuses or pretexts". "Good intentions cannot convert a wrong into good, they cannot convert an evil into good," he said. "Terrorism is terrorism, violence is violence and it has no place in Islamic teaching and no justification can be provided for it, or any kind of excuses or ifs or buts." He insisted that Islam was a religion of peace that promotes beauty, "betterment", goodness and "negates all form of mischief and strife". The 600-page fatwa by Dr Qadri, founder of the global Minhaj-ul-Quran movement, which has thousands of supporters across the world as well as in the UK, will be translated into English in the coming weeks. His talk will also be made available online in an attempt to counter extremist versions of Islam available on the internet. A fatwa, an edict issued by a learned Muslim scholar, may concern any aspect of Islamic life. The term became famous in the Western world in 1989 after the author Salman Rushdie was forced into hiding following a "death fatwa" issued by Ayatollah Khomeni, then Supreme Leader of Iran, on the grounds that his book, The Satanic Verses, had "insulted" Islam. |
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That'll be you shortly - bursting into flames :D Salman Rushdie eh - Did he ever publish that other book entitled "Buddah - you fat b@stard"? |
Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
(Post 9259623)
This should get some of you frothing at the mouth as the following contains the words "Muslim", "Islam", "Terrorism" and "Suicide bombings". ;)
Nice to see a counter-balanced view in the press for once :) |
Pakistan-born Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said there were no "ifs or buts" about terrorism and such acts had no justification in the name of Islam. In a news conference attended by MPs, representatives from the Metropolitan Police, charitable organisations, think-tanks and other groups, he called on Islamic leaders to convey the message that acts of terrorism cut people off as true followers of Islam. "They can't claim that their suicide bombings are martyrdom operations and that they become the heroes of the Muslim Umma (the wider Muslim community), no, they become heroes of hellfire, and they are leading towards hellfire," he said. "There is no place for any martyrdom and their act is never, ever to be considered Jihad," he added. Dr Qadri, who spoke at length in both English and Arabic before his audience, said his fatwa - a religious edict or ruling - was an "absolute" condemnation of terrorism without "any excuses or pretexts". "Good intentions cannot convert a wrong into good, they cannot convert an evil into good," he said. "Terrorism is terrorism, violence is violence and it has no place in Islamic teaching and no justification can be provided for it, or any kind of excuses or ifs or buts." He insisted that Islam was a religion of peace that promotes beauty, "betterment", goodness and "negates all form of mischief and strife". The 600-page fatwa by Dr Qadri, founder of the global Minhaj-ul-Quran movement, which has thousands of supporters across the world as well as in the UK, will be translated into English in the coming weeks. His talk will also be made available online in an attempt to counter extremist versions of Islam available on the internet. A fatwa, an edict issued by a learned Muslim scholar, may concern any aspect of Islamic life. The term became famous in the Western world in 1989 after the author Salman Rushdie was forced into hiding following a "death fatwa" issued by Ayatollah Khomeni, then Supreme Leader of Iran, on the grounds that his book, The Satanic Verses, had "insulted" Islam. That is, providing he doesnt get offed by the sort of people he's taking on. In that respect alone, I think he's a very brave man. Astraboy. |
Originally Posted by superstar1
(Post 9260099)
How long did it take you to type all that bull****?
Which I'd guess is probably about a quarter of the time it took you to type your response. HTH :thumb: |
Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
(Post 9260151)
Let's think... select text, hit copy, move to Sn, click Paste, ooh I'd say about 8 seconds.
Which I'd guess is probably about a quarter of the time it took you to type your response. HTH :thumb: |
I agree with Astraboy that there should be more people like Dr Tahir Ul Qadri. What this man is saying has been long overdue and it's about time someone said what he's saying.
These extremist and people who agree with sucidide bombings and all the rest of it are not muslims. They are in no position to call themselves muslims and they do not practise Islam as Islam does not condone their behaviour. People need to start differentiating between the two types of people and their actions. |
He insisted that Islam was a religion of peace that promotes beauty, "betterment", goodness and "negates all form of mischief and strife".
Promotes beauty - thats why women go round dressed in burkhas is it? |
Thanks for that ScoobyWont.
He is a brave man I think but he was quoting the true basic teachings of Islam which does not encourage its followers to be terrorists but promotes quite the opposite in fact. The trouble comes from evil self seeking people who use that religion for their own wicked reasons. Most religions will say the same thing, since they encourage people to lead a good life and to help others rather than hurt them. Since he is such a well respected man. we can only hope that what he says will do some good. It is a pity that some on here are too blinkered to understand that. Les |
This ruling is definitely a step in the right direction, but I can't see Abu Hamza giving it the thumbs-up. ;)
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
(Post 9261320)
He insisted that Islam was a religion of peace that promotes beauty, "betterment", goodness and "negates all form of mischief and strife".
Promotes beauty - thats why women go round dressed in burkhas is it? |
Originally Posted by urban
(Post 9259647)
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That'll be you shortly - bursting into flames :D Salman Rushdie eh - Did he ever publish that other book entitled "Buddah - you fat b@stard"? All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke |
Originally Posted by warrenm2
(Post 9261320)
He insisted that Islam was a religion of peace that promotes beauty, "betterment", goodness and "negates all form of mischief and strife".
Promotes beauty - thats why women go round dressed in burkhas is it? Have they absolutely stunning bodies and are wearing skimpy thongs etc - you get the picture Or are they not so pleasing on the eye wearing big granny knickers and chastity belt? I suppose if a western man ever "looked" he'd be given lashes, stoned or some other form of islamic brutal punishment
Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
(Post 9261320)
Or his other work in progress with the snappy title of "Jesus - you drop that cross one more time and i'll nail you to it";)
All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke |
Originally Posted by urban
(Post 9265588)
I wonder what the women are like under all that cloth
Have they absolutely stunning bodies and are wearing skimpy thongs etc - you get the picture Or are they not so pleasing on the eye wearing big granny knickers and chastity belt? I suppose if a western man ever "looked" he'd be given lashes, stoned or some other form of islamic brutal punishment |
It took him enough time to make his mind up ;)
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banned?
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
(Post 9264843)
No that's to stop pervs leering.
Would a national campaign titled 'Look, we reeeeeealy dont want to shag your missus' help? |
Originally Posted by Norman D. Landings
(Post 9267065)
I know if I saw one of those gals and their face mask slipped, perhaps the sight of their chin might remind me too much of, say, an armpit and fook man, I might just think sideways and come across t1ts! Oh man ,t1ts, now see where this leads! I'm thinking bog roll and hell!
Would a national campaign titled 'Look, we reeeeeealy dont want to shag your missus' help? |
Originally Posted by MJW
(Post 9263986)
This ruling is definitely a step in the right direction, but I can't see Abu Hamza giving it the thumbs-up. ;)
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Originally Posted by Norman D. Landings
(Post 9267065)
I know if I saw one of those gals and their face mask slipped, perhaps the sight of their chin might remind me too much of, say, an armpit.
Would a national campaign titled 'Look, we reeeeeealy dont want to shag your missus' help? |
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