i posted this vid over a week ago. lol @ trounces

the muppet that did that reveiw was one of the first to say the RS dosent torqe steer and would rather drive the RS than a new GTR back, anything to get noticed/talked about i think
the RS is a great car...end of :D

Well you would say that wouldn't you ;) but Steve Sutcliffe is a better driver than most and he says the Scirocco is a better car than the RS so who am i to discount his conclusion

The word Trounce was simply to get your attention and it has. Better than starting a thread that exclaimed 'Scirocco is slighly better than the Focus RS'

I'll admit the RS is a fabulous car - just not as good as the new Scirocco

End of.

I think the point he is making, is for the money the VW is the better buy. I suspect a lot of this is to do with the DSG gearbox.

I think its time Ford and Vx bit the bullet and go down this route.

I think Ford and Vx are a wee bit low on R&D funds!

I'm still amazed they managed to do such a good job of the Focus (not just the RS) and the latest Mondeo with almost no money.

A small thing that really annoys me about the Focus - and it really is small. They make their rear parcel shelves out of old cereal packets and make their boot hinges out of paperclips.

i read top gear magazine this week, and they didnt rate the 'rocco r as highly as its competitors..not worthy of an r badge they reckoned, and not signifigantly better than the previous hottest version......horses for courses....i cant see a focus rs buyer anting a 'rocco r anyhow...they are comopareable on paper but not in reality....totally different appeals..one is understated, strong words, softly spoken and the other hardly hdes its light under any bushels, shouts its intentions far and wide to all and sundry...

Good point, i mean lets face it without opening another can of worms a remapped ST is probably as fast as an RS on 99% of roads but is more understated and like you said an RS has to shout about it where as the Scirocco is a little more restrained and goes about its business in a more subtle way.

A bit like the owners of said cars! :D

im saying nothing..i drive a white imprez sti ra with gold wheels and a boot spoiler and skirts..harldy subtle haha

An Impreza RA is an iconic car mate, dont worry about it. :thumb:

just got it, hence joining here...always wanted an impreza turbo and came across the ra by mistake.its an old 94 model and seems like a good un...i didnt even know what it was im ashamed to admit....two days and a few miles later , i now know what its all about haha....loving it...

nice car and like the RS a guaranteed future classic :thumb: ;)
and yes they (rocco R and RS) are the same yet worlds apart
the RS is getting plenty of haters now i see, the irony of it all :haha:

nice car and like the RS a guaranteed future classic :thumb: ;)
and yes they (rocco R and RS) are the same yet worlds apart
the RS is getting plenty of haters now i see, the irony of it all :lol:

TBH i would have any of the two of them and if i get a buyer for my STi i will get a RS, some say the R is better others dont.

I dont really take much notice of all the journos tbh however if i was to listen to anyone it would be EVO.

Its like a film review, they say its great, you go to flicks and its pure shi*e. just trying to justify thier job,lol

Mac