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sonic93 26 October 2009 11:45 PM

Autobahn fmic and afterburner vortex any good?
 
i been looking at these frontmounts on the scoobyworld website there quite cheap but are they any good could some1 please tell me? Also what the afterburner vortex full decat systems like? thanks rob

Aztec Performance Ltd 27 October 2009 12:30 AM

Afterburner Vortex is a nice system.

For the front mount, the Hybrid GT Spec is a fantastic bit of kit and well ahead of the Autobahn ones. Hybrid GT Spec FMIC are used by many of the top cars here on ScoobyNet and also by the top tuners.

AZTEC PERFORMANCE ONLINE STORE - WHOLESALE PRICES DIRECT TO THE PUBLIC - HYBRID Front Mount Intercoolers (FMICs) :: HYBRID GT2 SPEC FRONT MOUNT INTERCOOLER KIT - GC8 IMPREZA

bushiwarrior 27 October 2009 12:31 AM

cant fault the afterburner mate had it 3 years now and still love it.

sonic93 27 October 2009 05:53 PM

cheers bob 5 iv checked your site out it seem s very good how easy is it to fit to a classic?

thanks bushiwarrior have u got full system if so loud are they?

Charlie_Chunk 27 October 2009 06:06 PM

I've got the Autobahn front mount on mine. Pipework quality isn't 100%, but it's ok

Would be better spending more on a better one, all depends how much you have to spend

Aztec Performance Ltd 27 October 2009 06:06 PM

Vortex is pretty loud.

To give you an idea of how long it takes to fit a Hybrid FMIC - the garages we supply charge 3 hours labour.

Email me for a PDF of the fitting instructions :thumb:

Connor_scotland 27 October 2009 06:19 PM

I have the afterburner on my 2001 bugeye mate
Here is a video i made
YouTube - Impreza bugeye 2001 - Afterburner vortex with centre box removed

sonic93 27 October 2009 06:28 PM

bob5 wots the pipework quality on yours like ?
cheers conor it sounds very nice gonna order full system next week hopefully

Aztec Performance Ltd 27 October 2009 06:34 PM

Pipework is very good - in fact the whole kit is great.

When tuners with virtually unlimited budgets are choosing Hybrid, you know it's a great product :thumb:

sonic93 27 October 2009 07:39 PM

il be buying 1 prob in the next month so il be giving you a shout soon thank s for your help bob5.Iv just brought a vortex backbox will any aftermarket center section bolt together

WhiteWagonMan 27 October 2009 08:54 PM

I know of two people at sheffield scoobys club who have the Autobahn fmic kit fitted and they are both excellent fitting and performing kits.i personally watched one of the kits being fitted and it went together like a dream,all pipe work fitted without any problems,all the bends and angles were spot on and the quality of the clamps and hoses were very good for the money,save yourself over £100 mate and get the autobahn.Stay away from the £199 and less ebay specials,you are asking for trouble with these cheap kits..Just my honest opinion and experience for what its worth.

sonic93 27 October 2009 09:01 PM

thank u whitewaganman ill see what everyone else thinks autobahn fmic or the hybrid gt fmic thanks again

johnlogie 27 October 2009 09:28 PM

Ive got a hybrid on my99 classic, quality piece of kit for the money

New_scooby_04 28 October 2009 01:43 AM

Hybrid, no question: proven performer.

Ns04

Saint AAI 01 November 2009 09:58 AM

Got Autobahn on mine, had to lose the fogs and trim small amounts off the car where the fogs mount, also had to cut the inner wing. Other than that, went on ok. Still on the car now around 3 years later, no problems.

Looking at cost of them I will probably upgrade to a Hybrid if thats what people recommend as the cost isn't much more. I'll be fitting charge temp sensors soon, pre and post cooler so I will have some comparison results when I swap to a hybrid. Like I said though, Autobahn is holding up fine so its not on my list of priorities to get a new cooler.

sonic93 01 November 2009 10:15 AM

did u notice much diff when u fitted it?not every loses there fogs do they?

WhiteWagonMan 01 November 2009 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Saint AAI (Post 9028796)
Got Autobahn on mine, had to lose the fogs and trim small amounts off the car where the fogs mount, also had to cut the inner wing. Other than that, went on ok. Still on the car now around 3 years later, no problems.

Looking at cost of them I will probably upgrade to a Hybrid if thats what people recommend as the cost isn't much more. I'll be fitting charge temp sensors soon, pre and post cooler so I will have some comparison results when I swap to a hybrid. Like I said though, Autobahn is holding up fine so its not on my list of priorities to get a new cooler.

I thought hybrid kits were £393 DELIVERED AZTEC PERFORMANCE ONLINE STORE - WHOLESALE PRICES DIRECT TO THE PUBLIC - HYBRID Front Mount Intercoolers (FMICs) :: HYBRID GT2 SPEC FRONT MOUNT INTERCOOLER KIT - GC8 IMPREZA ,autobahn are £264 DELIVERED direct from them Autobahn88 - Subaru Impreza WRX Sti Front Mount Intercooler Kit 96-00 im not meaning to be picky but thats nearly £130 cheaper so i cant see where you get the cost isnt much more idea from mate,seems quite a lot more to me.:eek:

Steve Whitehorn 01 November 2009 11:10 AM

I have the Autobahn on mine (previous owner fitted it).
No problems at all - not a bad bit of kit. kept the fogs ...only the bumper was cut.

Given the choice between the two bits of kit - Hybrid every day.
I will eventually be running big power and prob upgrade to the Hybrid.

sonic93 01 November 2009 11:15 AM

ok cheers boys but 4 like 350 bhp(my target) the autobahn prob b fine

Aztec Performance Ltd 01 November 2009 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by WhiteWagonMan (Post 9028841)
I thought hybrid kits were £393 DELIVERED AZTEC PERFORMANCE ONLINE STORE - WHOLESALE PRICES DIRECT TO THE PUBLIC - HYBRID Front Mount Intercoolers (FMICs) :: HYBRID GT2 SPEC FRONT MOUNT INTERCOOLER KIT - GC8 IMPREZA ,autobahn are £264 DELIVERED direct from them Autobahn88 - Subaru Impreza WRX Sti Front Mount Intercooler Kit 96-00 im not meaning to be picky but thats nearly £130 cheaper so i cant see where you get the cost isnt much more idea from mate,seems quite a lot more to me.:eek:

That website looks interesting. Can't seem to find an address, company details, or contact details.

Anyhow, we are also Autobahn dealers, but it's pointless trying to sell their FMIC next to the Hybrid as the Hybrid is by far superior in every way.

Many of the top cars and tuners run Hybrid for a reason.

£130 in tuning terms is peanuts - do it right the first time IMHO.

harvey 01 November 2009 09:43 PM


Hybrid FMICs - Largest Official Stockist - Unbeatable Prices
We are fitting these all the time. The charge is £185 and we are Hybrid Pro Installers and Technical Advisers and have been for the last seven years.
Fitting time is approximately six hours.

https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-ann...rid-fmics.html

N_Scooby 02 November 2009 04:47 PM

Autobahn direct is another one of Flat-4 onlines alter egos isn't it (sorry if I've tarnished a perfectly good company with that statement) but I seem to remember that in a thread not so long ago. I got my Autobahn FMIC for £199 delivered from Scoobyworld about a year ago. All easy to fit on my own, apart from the pipework. Terrible fit on mine. Had to put a cut in one of the pipes to get it to line up. Used the original black pipe on the inlet manifold side until I could get a new blue one ordered. Works alright though!!

andy_s37 04 November 2009 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by sonic93 (Post 9028935)
ok cheers boys but 4 like 350 bhp(my target) the autobahn prob b fine

I've got the autobahn kit on my MY98 Type R thats running about 350Bhp and its running fine. Fitting was OK but I had to cut (and swage) a couple of the pipes and space them with silicone hose, also the 90 degree bend to the turbo had to be cut. My car is fitted with A/C so the pipework was a tight fit between the fan and the cam cover so I had to modify it a little. The only really noticable difference is the lag due to the extra pipework. Dont forget that you will need an induction kit (as the pipework goes straight through where the air box sits) and a VTA or modified dumpvalve.

I got my silicone hose from here
Silicone hoses.

And heres a fitting guide
https://www.scoobynet.com/technical-...r-project.html
Andy.

New_scooby_04 04 November 2009 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by andy_s37 (Post 9034452)
The only really noticable difference is the lag due to the extra pipework.
I got my silicone hose from here
Silicone hoses.

And heres a fitting guide
https://www.scoobynet.com/technical-...r-project.html
Andy.

Helpful post mate! :thumb:

My concern is this issue of lag with yours. Having gone from a MY99 std intercooler to a Hybrid, I (hand on heart) can't say I noticed any increase in boost threshold or lag. I think the increased noise from the induction and turbo may hoodwink people into thinking the car is slower to respond as you hear the turbo spooling before the action starts, so might be inclined to think, well there's the noise, where's the action! :) In point of fact the action is where it's always been, it's just that now it's arrival is greeted with more of a fanfare! :)

I did a bit of digging around before getting my Hybrid FMIC and considered the Autobahn, but pretty much everyone I spoke to said it was...lets be polite... poorer quality than the Hybrid. THe person who installed my Hybrid (he doesn't sell either the Autobahn or the Hybrid, but has fitted both) dismissed the Autobahn as " an ill fitting piecce of junk" People I know that have one, say it works fine but was a pain to fit....they also tend to speak more of lag......which makes me wonder about quality. In contrast the Hybrid is a proven performer to the extent that mappers have commented that it makes units like the APS look VERY over-priced. Maybe Autobahn have improved since, I don't know...

Hybrid every time, as far as I'm concerned.


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