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wrxwill05 07 September 2009 12:02 AM

Will & Petes Alloy Respray Guide!
 
Hi Guys,

I've been umming and aring about refurbing and respraying my alloys for some time now! Anyway, this weekend was quiet nice and my neighbour Pete (importpete) and I decided it was time to do them! Pete is a bit of an expert when it comes to spray jobs and I was a complete virgin... Firstly we needed some bits and bobs, so off I popped to halfords to get the following items:

2 x 500ml Grey Primer
3 x 500ml Satin Black
1 x 300ml Laquer
800 grade sandpaper
1500 grade sandpaper
Masking tape
Cakes and Tea (provided by the wife...)

Step 1 is to obviously get the wheel off the car and give it a good clean! I sprayed the wheel with alloy wheel cleaner and left it a cpl minutes to break down the dirt. i then got a cleaning pad from the kitchen draw and gave the wheels a good scrub with hot soapy water (washing up liquid did the job...) aim was to get rid of all the muck and brake dust ect...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...loys/1Wash.jpg

step 2. now that the wheel was clean we had to make sure it was fully dry. i used a drying towel and gave it a good dry down. Once dry get the 800 sand paper and give all the wheel a good going-over... there is no going back now! you need to make sure all the cracks and corners have a good sanding so the primer has something to key too... basically rough up the entire wheel front and back... give it a quick rinse and dry again.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...loys/3Sand.jpg

step 3. mask up the wheel with your maskign tape. make sure the masking tape goes down behind the alloy lip so the spray can get all around the lip. also dont forgot to mask off the valve! once masked up its time to primer. the trick is lots of thin layers with some drying time inbetween each layer. dont spray on thick or it will run. start with going round the lip and work inwards, from the back to front (do the back first as any overspray will be covered when you do the front...)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/4Prime_1.jpg

Some ppl recommend leaving overnight to dry... this is fine if you can be arsed, otherwise, get the wife to make you a brew or woteva... after about 10 ~ 15mins it should be pretty dry, esp. if its a nice day!. Time to build up the paint now. Pete recommended not trying to do gloss with spray cans, its harded to get a good finish... so we went for satin black... as it turned out its pretty hard to get it wrong! using the same technique with the primer, back first, start with the lip and work inwards. lots of thin layers and watch for runs!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...oys/5Spray.jpg

I did actually manage to get a run getting trigger happy on the last wheel... DONT PANIC! let it dry, have another brew... once its FULLY dry (this might take about 30 mins or so....) get some water and the 1500 paper and gently flat the area back down.... take your time and lots of water and it will get rid of the run.... it will ruin the paint finish so a quick blast back over the area once your done will be required.... obviously dont let it run again lol. Check all around the spokes, move the wheel around, look from different angles and make sure everything is covered well. Let the paint dry a good 30 mins then go at it with the laquer... again same technique... you dont need too much, and make sure it goes on even.... once its all dry, take off the masking tape....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/6Lacquer.jpg

Thats one done! If you have axle stands you can actually work on 2 wheels at the same time (or 4 if your all fancy!).... The last stage is a good detail of the whole car, apply the tyre-gel and admire your work!! (and how much money you have saved compared to a bodyshop / wheel repair specialist....) it honestly is a fantastic job.... thanks for your help pete :-)

BEFORE:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...oys/before.jpg

AFTER:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...loys/after.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/IMG_2500.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/IMG_2521.jpg

Thanks for looking guys and big thanks to importpete for helping me out this weekend - comments and questions welcomed! i think its made a big difference to the car.....next mod..... new springs :)

Cheers guys!

bpm1588 07 September 2009 12:18 AM

good results mate,really nice wrx!......how much did all the paint etc cost and did you have much left over?

wrxwill05 07 September 2009 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by bpm1588 (Post 8926010)
good results mate,really nice wrx!......how much did all the paint etc cost and did you have much left over?

Thanks matey... the 500ml cans are £7 each and the 300ml cans are £6 each, all in all i spent around £50 (already had some bits in....) alot less than quoted from other places, they ranged from 190 ~ 240....

what ive got left is 3/4 can of black and 1/4 can of primer... enough to do any touch-ups / repairs :-) imo excellent value for money!

GMballistic 07 September 2009 12:37 AM

Very nice....good job & write up too :thumb:

G-Man1982 07 September 2009 01:47 AM

good timing.. i was thinking of gettin mine off 2morro and rubbing em down all nice and ready for spraying. any ideas about how you fix curb marks? 1 of my wheels i clouted a little while ago. maybe 1.5mm to 2mm deep gash in it.

and nice write up!

wiley 07 September 2009 02:58 AM

good job mate, really like that

wiley

Norman Dog 07 September 2009 07:06 AM

:thumb:
Looks good, I've been thinking of getting my wheels painted black for a while..

scooby546 07 September 2009 08:49 AM

Nice job, good write up, tempted to have a go myself...

I see looking at the before & after pics you changed the rear spoiler too - looks much better with the black alloys :thumb:

wrxwill05 07 September 2009 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by Scoobyman1982 (Post 8926047)
good timing.. i was thinking of gettin mine off 2morro and rubbing em down all nice and ready for spraying. any ideas about how you fix curb marks? 1 of my wheels i clouted a little while ago. maybe 1.5mm to 2mm deep gash in it.

and nice write up!

cheers guys for comments :-)

best thing to do mate for curb marks is metal filler from halfords... it only cost about £5 a tube. prep the area propperly (clean, sand and clean) and put just enough on to cover the damage. let it fully cure then work it down with went&dry. might need to start abbrasive @ 400 ~ 600 and work up to 1500. shouldnt take you more than and hour or 2 to sort it out mate. i had some light scuffs on mine but 800 managed to smooth them down enough so you couldnt tell once it was painted... hope that helps!

Scoobyspanners 07 September 2009 10:25 AM

Nice review, bit off but I painted a set of alloys on my old TR7 ( Yes I know TR7 HA HA.. and so on.. ! ) a few Years ago, knocked up a spinning table out of a length of pipe, the feet off an old swivel chair and a round piece of metal with a spigot welded in its centre.... Fitted the pipe to the feet, knocked a bearing into the top end of the pipe and then placed the round metal piece with the spigot in the bearing, and hay presto a spining table, seat the Alloys on the table (although table is the wrong name for it, as it was only ablot 4 inch Dia or so to sit inside the machined area of the Alloys ) and spun the wheel by hand and sprayed, no runs and a professional job too.Found the prep the hardest part as rubbing down is sooooo boring.....

wrxwill05 07 September 2009 10:32 AM

thats a pretty sweet idea mate... yeh agree preppin is very boring lol you just want to get spraying!!!

IMPORTPETE 07 September 2009 02:37 PM

nice one mate looking good you obviously had some sort of genius helping ;) No prob i quite enjoyed doin it might have to think of a new colour for my wheels just to have another go lol.

AlanPPP 07 September 2009 02:39 PM

Guys you have really inspired me to do this myself!! Although i think i'm going to take the tyres off and do them that way as the insides are really grotty :( Might go for Anthracite also.

AlanPPP 07 September 2009 02:40 PM

D'oh just noticed you've done the insides too! Sorry :)

IMPORTPETE 07 September 2009 03:22 PM

go for it alanppp if done right it should look good and stand the test of time anyway few more pics for you here guys
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...e/DSC02068.jpg
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...e/DSC02072.jpg
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...e/DSC02070.jpg
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...e/DSC02076.jpg
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...e/DSC02081.jpg

IMPORTPETE 07 September 2009 03:25 PM

kin ell looks like distort tool went a bit crazy on one of them pictures oh well lol

wrxwill05 07 September 2009 04:07 PM

lmao... t'pants....

look well good mate! glad we went out now n got some more pics :-)

kimera999 08 September 2009 10:59 AM

Anyone know the best Halfords spray to buy for "normal silver" wheels? i.e standard german colour.

chrisdicko 08 September 2009 11:02 AM

How robust would this be? I.e. For flaking, getting chipped etc?

wrxwill05 08 September 2009 01:23 PM

kimera999 - I think they do a normal alloy colour spray off the shelf... worst case, most big halfords stores offer a "mixing service" so they would be able to make you some up....

chris - Importpetes wheels back been black for around a year i think, and hes had the tyres off twice lol - i think thats a pretty good benchmark for the paint!

chrisdicko 08 September 2009 06:05 PM

Yeah, seems a good bench mark to me! :thumb:

walsh128 08 September 2009 08:28 PM

If you live on the northwest I can recommend National Alloys in Widnes. I had 2 badly curbed wheels repaired and painted for about 20 quid each. I think they charged 140 quid for repairing/respaying a full set. nationalalloys.co.uk. Also, Just a point for DIYers. You need etch primer for alloy. Ordinary primer will peel/flake off in a few months

IMPORTPETE 08 September 2009 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by walsh128 (Post 8929815)
If you live on the northwest I can recommend National Alloys in Widnes. I had 2 badly curbed wheels repaired and painted for about 20 quid each. I think they charged 140 quid for repairing/respaying a full set. nationalalloys.co.uk. Also, Just a point for DIYers. You need etch primer for alloy. Ordinary primer will peel/flake off in a few months

Hi there that sounds pretty good tbf. I did my wheels using the exact same method as done on wills and have done on previous cars these have been done almost a year and the colour before was on there for 3 years not a mark on them so normal primer must be ok as its tried and tested no doubt etching primer is better by the book so go for it DIYers.

The Rig 08 September 2009 09:38 PM

Nice job but i dont think longevity will be at the top of this job.
i have just done some motorbike wheels,flurescent orange and bloody hell its hard to get a smooth colour transfer.

bike wheels are o.k for rattle cans but dont think car wheels will last too long,but look good tho !! (hope im wrong tho)

G-Man1982 08 September 2009 09:52 PM

i just started doing mine!! woop woop!

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...70909_2233.jpg

IMPORTPETE 08 September 2009 10:31 PM

nice one fella post some piccies when your done

walsh128 08 September 2009 10:46 PM

Aye Pete. I dont disagree, but if yer going to all that trouble, the etch primer is no dearer and sticks better to the alloy. You use it on galvanised metal as well. Im sure Halfords, B & Q etc sell it.

wrxwill05 08 September 2009 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by walsh128 (Post 8930328)
Aye Pete. I dont disagree, but if yer going to all that trouble, the etch primer is no dearer and sticks better to the alloy. You use it on galvanised metal as well. Im sure Halfords, B & Q etc sell it.

Hi mate - yeh the do sell it, but its quiet expensive - i was looking at it. worst case scenario.... they all chip and i have to sand them down and redo them... the pros for doing it your self far outway the cons. if i curb it, i can easily fix it and retouch up the wheel with the paint i have left... if i had taken them to a body shop to get sprayed, and damage happen to them it wud cost me more money taking them back to the b'shop... thats all im sayin! :)

tbf - petes wheels are in great condition, and we spent quiet a while prepping my wheels... there is no reason the primer shouldnt stick to the wheel, granted it hasnt got the corrosive properties of an etch primer, but a well prepared surface gives it the best chance in life! Not saying your wrong dude not at all! etch primer is by far the best way to do it but having seen petes wheels survive over 12 months with the tyres taken on and off a cpl of times, it cant be THAT bad :lol1:

Rant over. thats all group hug now!

paulwrxboro 10 September 2009 12:53 AM

nice job

etch primer seems to be for bare metal as far as i can see

V555MAC 10 September 2009 09:29 AM

Then once done stay away from those kurbs!!!:lol1::lol1::norty:


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