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wrighty338 28 July 2009 10:50 PM

what would you do next
 
ok just wondering, what you would do / recomend to do next in the suspension department if you had the below. not looking to do anything immediatly but for future! was thinking mayb keep an eye out for some import wishbones + alk

Front top strut brace
Rear top strut brace
middle strut brace/harness bar
Front 22mm whiteline rollbar + wire drop links
Rear 24mm whiteline rollbar + solid drop links
Polybushed steering rack
Tein s-techs on Ohlins shocks

Limited really but few options..

replace front steel wishbones for alloy + polybush?
anti lift kit?
uprated rear trailing arms (adjustable or sti)
or buy a full polybush kit

dunx 29 July 2009 12:29 AM

Steve @ RE Motorsport has poly-bushed his car and swears by it, I'd almost suggest a H-brace for the lower front end, to keep the wishbone/ALK mounts from crushing together.

Adjustable trailing arms are ultra expensive.... lateral adjustable arms aren't too bad, IIRC.

IMHO

dunx

wrighty338 29 July 2009 10:29 AM

people i asked said H-brace didnt really make a difference dunx, how do you mean crushing together?

dunx 29 July 2009 12:23 PM

You've been in mine, lateral G squeezing the bodyshell on high grip tyres....

It keeps the front wishbones pointing in the correct direction. IMHO

Got fuel surge at Blyton on Saturday using R888's, even with 1/2 a tank in.... :(

Better use crap tyres next time. :eek:

dunx

wrighty338 29 July 2009 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by dunx (Post 8850267)
You've been in mine, lateral G squeezing the

Got fuel surge at Blyton on Saturday using R888's, even with 1/2 a tank in.... :(


:eek:

360ste 29 July 2009 08:24 PM

Change all the bushes to poly ones as then there will be no movement and once the wheel alignment is setup sorted. I also have a shedload of whiteline, ARB's, Roll kit, Diff bolts, aswell as all the bushes changed for Powerflex items. The road noise is slightly more but that is why there is a volume button on the stereo.

dunx 29 July 2009 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by 360ste (Post 8851282)
Change all the bushes to poly ones as then the road noise is slightly more but that is why there is a volume button on the stereo.

LOL

dunx

The rookie 31 July 2009 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by wrighty338 (Post 8849576)
Front top strut brace
Rear top strut brace
middle strut brace/harness bar
Front 22mm whiteline rollbar + wire drop links
Rear 24mm whiteline rollbar + solid drop links
Polybushed steering rack
Tein s-techs on Ohlins shocks

Limited really but few options..

replace front steel wishbones for alloy + polybush?
anti lift kit?
uprated rear trailing arms (adjustable or sti)
or buy a full polybush kit

Personally I'd bin the s-techs and fit a spring more orientated towards handling than looks, no more than a 1" drop from stock ride height is adviseable, any more ruins the front geometry in roll.

Rear subframe locking bolts (whiteline, circa £20) really tighten up the rear making it feel much more positive.

Whiteline ALK (or similar from Perrin etc) is a good move, it increases castor (the car will track straighter under power), replaces one bush per front arm with a polybush and reduces understeer under power by changing the anti-lift front suspension geometry to pro-lift and thus effectivley softening the front suspension. Just don't call it an Anti-Lift Kit (even Whiteline only call it ALK now) as its actually pro-lift!

Ally front arms are a good move, lighter and stiffer, slightly more castor (and with ALK you can add more still, or use Forester bushes if the ally's give enough to get the pro-lift effect) and are lighter reducing unsprung mass.

What geometry are you running, to be honest that is more important than almost any other single mod!

Telling us what your base vehicle is would help! (S-reg classic UK turbo for those who don't want to search).

Simon

dunx 31 July 2009 04:59 PM

It's a project, so no road miles for a while...

He's fed-up of greasy bits and wants it on the road for our fabulous summer !

dunx

wrighty338 11 August 2009 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by The rookie (Post 8854137)
Personally I'd bin the s-techs and fit a spring more orientated towards handling than looks, no more than a 1" drop from stock ride height is adviseable, any more ruins the front geometry in roll.

Ok, whiteline flat outs do? If your going to say stuff like that atleast give me an idea - because springs for imprezas are quite limited as everyone seems to just go coilovers

Rear subframe locking bolts (whiteline, circa £20) really tighten up the rear making it feel much more positive.

Ok, may get some!

Whiteline ALK (or similar from Perrin etc) is a good move, it increases castor (the car will track straighter under power), replaces one bush per front arm with a polybush and reduces understeer under power by changing the anti-lift front suspension geometry to pro-lift and thus effectivley softening the front suspension. Just don't call it an Anti-Lift Kit (even Whiteline only call it ALK now) as its actually pro-lift!

Ally front arms are a good move, lighter and stiffer, slightly more castor (and with ALK you can add more still, or use Forester bushes if the ally's give enough to get the pro-lift effect) and are lighter reducing unsprung mass.

Im too close to getting the car done to take it apart again now, these can wait until new engine goes in and il do the LOT, polybush, alloy arms, trailing arms & lateral arms

What geometry are you running, to be honest that is more important than almost any other single mod!

Geometry? im not, its currently sat on whiteline flatouts and has been for the best part of a year without moving thus, hasnt been setup yet

Telling us what your base vehicle is would help! (S-reg classic UK turbo for those who don't want to search).

ah the joys of private plates, turbo 2000, on a 1999 v plate actually :p


Simon

Jon

mr terzo 11 August 2009 11:54 PM

i fitted the superpro poly bush kit to my car was a complete b#stard to do on my drive but well worth the effort as the car tracks better and feel much more positive on turn in and far more responsive to steering inputs.

there is a little more road noise but not a hugh differance. try eibach pro kit springs they are supposed to be a good spring kit about 25-30mm drop if i remember correctly. i was told that eibach make prodrives springs so i guess they know what they are doing.

my car is fitted with the following suspension mods

eibach pro street s coilovers
22mm eibach front arb
24mm eibach rear arb
perrin stout mounts for rear arb
front and rear strut braces
full super pro polybush kit
whiteline alk
whiteline roll centre adjustment kit
whiteline steering rack bushes
whiteline rear subframe lock kit
revolution fast road allignment

as dunx has said polybushing is well worth it . i did it because my car was high milage(171,000) and the standard bushing was well tired and past its best

The rookie 12 August 2009 02:37 PM

Springs, go for circa 1" lower, eibach or whiteline (the one for 1" drop, can't recall if that's the flatouts or not) or a Prodrive (as RB5) set are best, their are others as well, some probably fine

The ALK is a very simple/quick fit job and very worthwhile, so wouldn't right it off!

Simon

wrighty338 13 August 2009 05:08 PM

oki doki

mr flipsone 13 August 2009 08:01 PM

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