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Mrchips 30 December 2008 08:52 PM

boot build
 
Hello there, need some help and advice, I have a problem where i need some bass, not the typical boy racer BOOM BOOM BOOM, just some to help.
I have a child so need room in the boot for buggy.

Which is the best way to do this. Was thinking maybe an 8 or 10 inch sub, and calculating the volume of a box for the size and trying to make something up with the same volume in size, hope this makes sense to people. any help would be great thanks:thumb:

Coyote64 30 December 2008 09:23 PM

If space saving is a must then i would look at kicker solobaric subwoofers as they need only half the size box of normal subs. Pack a good punch and pound for pound really good for the money. As for only requiring enough bass to enrich the sound then thats easy, it means you just keep the bass frequencies from the head unit nice and low, no massive amp or 15" speaker. For what you need a 10 inch speaker will be more than enough, which means smaller box. another sub that will suffice would be jbl. Very cheap. Reasonably small box, for value for money really cant be beat.

You mention 8 inch subs, i really dont reccomend this size, yes the box will be small but it will really struggle with lower notes that wouldnt stress a 10 at all. 8`s are great for big door pods to give good mid bass but thats about all really. Been there and tried it. The only car ive seen where 8`s worked really well was an escort at doncaster many years ago and he needed about 20 of them :freak3:

GAZTOTALMODS 31 December 2008 05:00 AM

I use to work at a car audio shop and i recommend looking at a vibe box which has the amp built in and use a split connection block for the power wires so you can remove the box if needs be. they do them in either a 10" or 12" sub depending on the music you like. i gather you are just gonna run the door speakers off the head unit?

look at alpine head units far better than pioneer on sound quality and functions. w202 i think it is , is a double din head unit if you have a bug eye onwards or a d310 single din with a 7" flip screen ( the one i had )

for better sound and just replace standard speakers to run off head unit look at jl audio vr series comps or infinity speakers this way you can set up the system for a better sound as you might find that the door speakers will distort and get a clash of sound.

thats my view anyways.

Mrchips 31 December 2008 06:40 PM

Thanks for that guys.

I do have infinitys components in the front and orion components in the rear shelf. So just a sub now. Can't wait to have some proper sound in there.

I listen to garage and drum n bass mainly. What would I be looking for as in sub wise, size etc?

wolfie28 31 December 2008 07:06 PM

My boot install. MB Quart (can't remember the size :() in an enclosed box being driven by a Genesis sub amp. I know I'm biased :norty: but it sounds fantastic. I listen to mainly dance music and it sure packs a punch for its size :thumb:. The other amp is driving my front (Focal) and rear (MB Quart) components.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...115ICE0028.jpg

GAZTOTALMODS 31 December 2008 09:01 PM

for the music you listen to i would recommend the 12" version of the vibe box, i think its called a cbr 1000 or something sim. never had any probs with them and it will provide as much bass as you like.

just did a search and found a link to a company that sells it

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro...s_id/2924.html

like i said its all in one and if you get that connector its easy to remove when ya want. fit velcro to the bottom of it and that should stop it moving around

Mrchips 31 December 2008 09:31 PM

Will look into this one then, hopefully not to big.

GAZTOTALMODS 31 December 2008 09:52 PM

its not too bad size wise m8 less room than having a seperate sub box and amp rack. you'll be happy with the results.

STI_Baly 31 December 2008 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by wolfie28 (Post 8386785)
My boot install. MB Quart (can't remember the size :() in an enclosed box being driven by a Genesis sub amp. I know I'm biased :norty: but it sounds fantastic. I listen to mainly dance music and it sure packs a punch for its size :thumb:. The other amp is driving my front (Focal) and rear (MB Quart) components.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...115ICE0028.jpg

Wolfie u Bling SLAG, i've always loved the genesis amps BTW....:thumb:

Solobaric is definitely a very good sub, especially if you go for the L7 series squares they are equivelant to the next size up on a round sub, so a kicker 8" is equivelant to a 10", but will use less space than a round 8" due to the additional cone surface.

Vibe again are very good and the CBR 1000 series is sure good bang for buck....and those boxes sure do look a treat in the boot, just remember it's vibes boxes which make their subs sound good.

Either choice is a good choice, so good luck....:thumb:

And a Happy/Prosperous 2009 to all. :)

scooby-tc 31 December 2008 11:03 PM

or if you rarely have anyone in the back other than the child do what i have done and build 2 8 inch subs in the rear footwell
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...C/DSC04668.jpg
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...C/DSC04667.jpg

Mrchips 01 January 2009 01:12 PM

Now thats a good idea.
Was it easy to do that? and is that a cover so someone can sit in the back without damaging them>?

scooby-tc 01 January 2009 03:05 PM

the subs have a steel cover over them wth just the mat laid across them so people can put their feet on them with no danger of damaging them :thumb:

mje_wrx 01 January 2009 03:54 PM

thats looks mint, u built a fake floor? how high is it :)

scooby-tc 01 January 2009 07:12 PM

Its built to the height of the transmission tunnel so doesnt compromise too much of the leg room so id say its about 8-10" high

Mrchips 01 January 2009 07:24 PM

Thinking about doing this, what a great idea.
How good do they sound? I just wanna go out there now and start doing it, need a better sound

scooby-tc 01 January 2009 07:29 PM

The sound is amazing honestly the bass these small subs put out is phenominal and coupled up to Focal components in the front its a truly stunning combination.It really has to be heard to believe,much better than having subs in the boot IMO

mje_wrx 01 January 2009 07:34 PM

im deffo doing it

Mrchips 01 January 2009 08:55 PM

Just spoke to girlfriend, and she won't allow this. Gutted

scooby-tc 01 January 2009 09:03 PM

haha whos car is it? well you have 2 choices then either the boot or nothing

good luck :D

v8voodoo 01 January 2009 09:09 PM

Suburu Impreza Nearside StealthBoXz

;)

stu_555 01 January 2009 09:53 PM

for me if your wanting good bass but also to save space id recomend some amped up component speakers in the front doors and upgraded coxials in the rear doors i would say that would give you enuth bass and better sound quality than putting a sub in.especialy for having the child in the back of the car having bass pounding through its back from the boot

Mrchips 01 January 2009 10:06 PM

Its a tough call. I wouldn't use it when child is in the car, and it won't be some loud ass bass, just a compliment.
I might try and amp the rears then, as they are awesome.
So i'll give that a try then if no good then sub it up.:norty:

Mrchips 01 January 2009 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by scooby-tc (Post 8389109)
haha whos car is it? well you have 2 choices then either the boot or nothing

good luck :D

I know its my car, but as women go, whats mine is hers and all that.:cry: She drives it in the week and i use on weekends.

God damn. :brickwall

stu_555 01 January 2009 10:21 PM

you also get under seat subs no idea what there like.http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/imag.../b_tswx11a.jpg

this may be of some use aswell http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/imag.../b_tswx77a.jpg

steven woody 01 January 2009 10:22 PM

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...P1010008-1.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...y/P1010008.jpg this is what i made

rev.chris 01 January 2009 11:09 PM

what about this,

Impreza Turbo Saloon StealthBoXz 00 X on

dabow 02 January 2009 02:06 AM

i managed to get 2 12'' speekers 2 amps a capasitor. still access the spear a
and still manage to put a full size buggy in the boot:thumb:

i did have a pic somewhere.
i made a box to go right the way across, just before the spear. sat the amps in the midle of them but sitting on top of each other. carpeted the boot out with red & dark grey. the capasitor on one side. so i still have plenty of room for a buggy.

i also put some small 12v fans aboth both amps to keep them cool. all on rocker switches.

dont look to bad for a self build

GAZTOTALMODS 02 January 2009 06:12 AM

the under seat subs are ok ive fitted a few and stuck one in a porsche 911 gt3 rs. they sounds ok and would be enough for you want but imo id always go for a sub and amp combo. the vibe i said about would give you a nice install and be removable if needed, i know from my car that i need as much boot space as poss when we put the buggy, shopping etc. Ive got a seat leon 07 reg at mo and that has a a big ish boot.

the guy running the twin 8" subs behind the front seat was a nice touch ( sorry i couldnt remember your name)

the other avantage is if you do a track day you wont have a heavy load in the boot you can just take it out blitz the car round the track and then put it back in.

when i get the new car im thinking of doin a install and this would be my set up

alpine w205 double din head unit with black bird sat nav ( it slots in the head unit) and it has ipod control, so i can stick my iphone in a control it from that like a ipod and fit my parrot hands free kit

jl audio xr 6.5" comps up front
jl xr 6" co ax in rear
jl audio hd 750/1 sub amp
jl audio hd 300/4 ( cant remember the model number doh)

the hd amps are the same size and small so easy to tuck away at the sides but give enough power.

and sub is a jl audio 12w6 or a 13w7 havent made up my mind. i dont plan on doin track days to often and the install will be very simple.

and a flip down screen with dvd built in for my daughter which i can control from the head unit.

he last car i had with install was my 206 gti 180

GAZTOTALMODS 02 January 2009 06:34 AM

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IT WAS A RUSH JOB FOR A SHOW the sub enclosure was gonna be painted the same colour as the car and different material used to trim it all. and the the sound system equipment was about 9 years old as it came from my nova

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i cant of stuck the rest of the pics up doh but thats just a small pic of the first sort of real install i did when i was younger, the panels went on over the equipment and itjust looked like a normal rear seat.

just thought i share them with ya as everyone else has stuck pics up lol

BlueBugEye 02 January 2009 09:03 AM

JLAudio actually make one for the Newage Impreza however I've never seen them in the UK but you could try and UK JLAudio dealer:
http://mobile.jlaudio.com/images/12423.jpg

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