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robby 14 February 2008 06:52 PM

Eco hypocritic pratts
 
heard on the news today that the uk are planning a moon landing in the next few years.
Now i thought the government were wanting to stop high emmissions by over taxing everyone so why is it they're sending rockets up when they spew out tens of thousands of gallons of aviation fuel (which is more harmful than unleaded) and this is acceptable?
Are they wanting to put up speed cameras on the moon and parking meters before the multi millionaires decide to have their own rockets built so they can escape our great land

Chelspeed 14 February 2008 07:05 PM

Rocket fuel is not aviation fuel it's liquid oxygen (aka LOX) and hydrogen peroxide. Burn hydrogen and oxygen and you get an exhaust which is...... water. So no big deal.

Martin2005 14 February 2008 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by robby (Post 7653819)
heard on the news today that the uk are planning a moon landing in the next few years.
Now i thought the government were wanting to stop high emmissions by over taxing everyone so why is it they're sending rockets up when they spew out tens of thousands of gallons of aviation fuel (which is more harmful than unleaded) and this is acceptable?
Are they wanting to put up speed cameras on the moon and parking meters before the multi millionaires decide to have their own rockets built so they can escape our great land

This is a very slightly odd thread, but I like that kind:lol1:

Even if a rocket produced CO2 it would account 0.000000000001% (that's an educated guess:lol1: ) of the CO2 this country produces.

If you want to debate global warming then fine let's do it, but please don't use stuff like this as an excuse for bashing the whole arguement, and use conspriracy theories (moon landings and conspiracy theories, that can't be right:lol1: ) to justify why we should do nothing (assuming that's what you meant).

Luminous 14 February 2008 07:41 PM

More to the point is the cost. They were saying that as a minimum it would cost £25m per person just to get them into orbit.

Actually, thinking about it, that is a small price to pay to get rid of Brown. No body, no crime. Anyone for starting a collection?

robby 14 February 2008 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 7653904)
If you want to debate global warming then fine let's do it, but please don't use stuff like this as an excuse for bashing the whole arguement, and use conspriracy theories (moon landings and conspiracy theories, that can't be right:lol1: ) to justify why we should do nothing (assuming that's what you meant).

what i was trying to say was why are we taxpayers who are being urged to leave our cars at home expected to fork out for expensive space exploration (sp) - ok so it's not aviation fuel used (my mistake) but there will still be all the debris left floating in space.

why does brown want to land on the moon when he can't even sort out this planet?

Hoppy 14 February 2008 08:51 PM

I'd like to know what practical benefits all the bi££ions spent on space exploration has yielded so far. Apart from some pretty pictures of earth, and some very dull ones of distant planets that some bearded loon has generated on their computer :rolleyes:

Luminous 14 February 2008 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by robby (Post 7653977)
why does brown want to land on the moon when he can't even sort out this planet?

Tony Blair is conquering Europe and Brown does not want to be outdone, thats why :D Just image the PR stunt for the first politician on the moon :lol1:

Clarebabes 14 February 2008 09:12 PM

Would you really trust this Government with your life in something they've built? ;)

girl-in-a-scoob 14 February 2008 09:13 PM

[quote=Clarebabes;7654308]Would you really trust this Government with your life in something they've built? ;)[/quote

Nope :)

Martin2005 14 February 2008 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by robby (Post 7653977)
what i was trying to say was why are we taxpayers who are being urged to leave our cars at home expected to fork out for expensive space exploration (sp) - ok so it's not aviation fuel used (my mistake) but there will still be all the debris left floating in space.

why does brown want to land on the moon when he can't even sort out this planet?

Should we also stop evolving as well?

We should never stop exploring and pushing the boundries, it's what we do, and incidentally we've learnt much about how this planet works through various space programmes.

Why are you trying to turn this into a political issue when it isn't, the overwelming majority of the UK space programme is funded privately.

Klaatu 15 February 2008 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by Chelspeed (Post 7653854)
Rocket fuel is not aviation fuel it's liquid oxygen (aka LOX) and hydrogen peroxide. Burn hydrogen and oxygen and you get an exhaust which is...... water. So no big deal.

Water vapour IS a problem.

SJ_Skyline 15 February 2008 09:19 AM

£25M per person? What's the point? It's cheaper to just fly in Branston's speaceship ;)

Leslie 15 February 2008 03:17 PM

We are told that water vapour is appreciably more capable of causing global warming than CO2!

Les

Fuzz 15 February 2008 04:07 PM

What ever the band wagon you want to put it on we really aught to stop raping this planet of it's resources or there will be nothing left to resource.

If we don't learn this soon we'll be up sh1t creek without a paddle !

At the end of the day, we can all "do our bit" by using less of everything but our hands are pretty much tied..

It's not the general public that need to be building "things" that produce clean energy in the first place!!

Unless the government get with the program and start funding such schemes we may as well piss into the wind, for all the difference it's going to make!


Andy

Leslie 15 February 2008 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Fuzz (Post 7656590)
What ever the band wagon you want to put it on we really aught to stop raping this planet of it's resources or there will be nothing left to resource.

If we don't learn this soon we'll be up sh1t creek without a paddle !

At the end of the day, we can all "do our bit" by using less of everything but our hands are pretty much tied..

It's not the general public that need to be building "things" that produce clean energy in the first place!!

Unless the government get with the program and start funding such schemes we may as well piss into the wind, for all the difference it's going to make!


Andy

Thats good sense.

Les

robby 15 February 2008 08:41 PM

another thing on radio2 today :) the money guy came on and it was mentioned on his money saving website it shows where you can book a flight to ireland for £1 ?????????????? hey cmon, so it's now cheaper to fly to Ireland than it is to drive a mile down the road

Fuzz 15 February 2008 08:53 PM

It's called a loss leader and it has sweet FA to do with ecology


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