Short shifter/Quick shift
Seen this one, reduces by 60%
http://i9.ebayimg.com/02/i/07/f1/33/92_1_sbol.JPG yet some others only say 30% is there a difference ? do they really make the shift nice and quick ? easy enough to fit ? |
hi,
i looked into this in detail. the shift you posted is literally just a shorter stem, i cant comment on what they are like as i opted fot the sti quickshift offered by subaru dealers. this is the whole mechanism inc the stabilising bar and linkage. yes its 250£ ish fitted but i have it and my neighbour doesnt and it is very noticeable in comparison. altho once fitted you wont appreciate the difference, if you revert back to a standard you think "this is too long". i have a newage and i still appreciated the difference, if you have any previous model the change will be huge. the shift above is diy and a 10 min job done from inside car. the other requires access from below the car aswell - may affect your choice? good luck. |
I was thinking about the GFB quickshift from Revolution for my car. Is the standard Subaru one any better? £250 seems cheap for a main stealer and there is not much difference in cost with this.
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Originally Posted by The Rig
(Post 7088235)
Seen this one, reduces by 60%
http://i9.ebayimg.com/02/i/07/f1/33/92_1_sbol.JPG yet some others only say 30% is there a difference ? do they really make the shift nice and quick ? easy enough to fit ? this from what i gather is the daddy of quickshifts though and when i've got the pennies will be on the shopping list!rallynuts.com : GFB Short Shift Kit Subaru Impreza |
cheers guys, i couldnt part with £250 for the job,im not too bothered by it but just thought about it, the cheapy ebay one i suppose is a step closer and maybe it wil make me one day upgrade to the £250 ones
cheers all............ |
If it's on a classic, you can get it to feel a whole lot better by removing the old gearknob, then fitting a Momo round one, as low down as poss.
Alcazar |
Look in the Subaru range and see if any of the cars have a quicker shift then you already have. The probability is that it will be a straight replacement and cheaper to buy direct rather than mucking about with after market stuff. That is certainly the case with BMW's.
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cheers guys.
found this pic, guy not sure if its for a classic,but thinks it will fit as it has a prodrive adapter at the front......... all new to me........... http://i5.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/a9/9c/80ea_1.JPG looks alot different to above,this an underneath unbolt/rebolt jobby ? |
Is the 1st pic i posted just the gear knob shaft ?????,shorter than the standard,in height ?
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Rig - what car have you got?
As a first step on my WRX Blob I switched the stock leather knob for a Momo Sphere which I could fit as low down as the current shaft would allow (right down to the lip) as it doesn't have a thread inside (you use a rubber adaptor and screws to fix). This made a little bit of difference as the knob is quite a bit shorter than the standard - I think this is a good way around sawing a couple of inches from the shaft. The only way you can better this is getting a short shifter or taking your current one out, cutting some of the lower half shaft out and welding (not my bag - prefer £150 on a B&M) |
Got a GFB one fitted to my 6 speed 03STi. Sorry to say I'm not entirely convinced. I find the effort to move the lever a little unnatural (perhaps I should eat more shredded wheat). I started off with a 30mm throw (it can be adjusted even shorter) but have now moved it to about 45mm to reduce necessary effort. Also the lever now has a notchy feel as the original lever had a rubber bush and the GFB one used hard plastic bushes. Have to make an effort to be precise with hand movement to get a slick gearchange.
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Originally Posted by D1CCY
(Post 7099477)
Got a GFB one fitted to my 6 speed 03STi. Sorry to say I'm not entirely convinced. I find the effort to move the lever a little unnatural (perhaps I should eat more shredded wheat). I started off with a 30mm throw (it can be adjusted even shorter) but have now moved it to about 45mm to reduce necessary effort. Also the lever now has a notchy feel as the original lever had a rubber bush and the GFB one used hard plastic bushes. Have to make an effort to be precise with hand movement to get a slick gearchange.
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With hindsight I don't think I'd have done it. Some might prefer it and some not, it might be a matter of taste (not quite the right word but you get my drift).
I'd suggest you find someone who has had it done and try before you buy, coming right down to 30mm in one go is quite a shock - believe me. If you come to Elvington for any events you could have a feel of mine (DOH). |
I have been asked loads of time's if we can supply short shifter for newage sti's and at the mo we can't because I only have a wrx :( and they are only 5 speed and you don't need to press it down / or pull it up to put it in reverse..
If someone can supply me either a aftermarket short shifter or a oem short shifter for a newage sti ( 6 speed) to develop one , I will glady make them a freebee up for exchange in testing for me , Let me know - i'll keep a eye on the thread , I was gonna post a new thread but I thought I'd hijack :lol1: Cheers chris |
chris,the 2nd pic i posted up, is that a proper quick shift kit for a classic ?
not really sure what im looking at etc/how thy work,presume they have a shorter gear stick shaft and shorter linkage to the gearbox ???? cheers |
It looks like a newage 5 speed to me
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All that is meant to be different it the shaft is shorter :)
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o.k,cheers.
he did say he bought a prodrive adapter that can be seen at the front to make it fit a classic cheers anyhoo |
I maybe wrong as im not 100% sure how the 6 speed works:wonder:
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Would fitting these possibly knacker the synchros quicker as you're getting in to gear fractionally quicker?
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What a small world.
i was just about to post a thread about the GFB short shifter. And if anybody has fitted one? the write-up about them sounds good, but do they work as well as they say they do? milsport and rallynuts do them for £140 all in. |
the 2nd pic i posted,whys it got all the gubbins with it if its just a shorter gear knob shaft thats required ??
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No they're not just a shorter shaft. The ball pivot at the bottom is fixed and the rod to the gearbox is attached to the shaft. These kits raise the attachment of the rod to the shaft so the rod to the box moves further relative to the gearstick movement. Downside is some loss of mechanical advantage and more effort is required - hence my minor gripes above. The GFB kits make this pivot point adjustable with an alloy collar and grub screw on the shaft. On my 6 speed I found 30mm throw uncomfortable and have lowered the pivot point so I get about 45mm throw and I prefer this.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 7088437)
If it's on a classic, you can get it to feel a whole lot better by removing the old gearknob, then fitting a Momo round one, as low down as poss.
Alcazar This is very true. The round silver Momo/Subaru knob makes gear changing much more precise than the slim leather standard one. Cheaper than a quickshift too. |
The Prodrive 5 spd qshift assemblyfrom my old 03 wagon just had a shorter gear stick. The bushes may well have been different but I couldn't tell.
I presume that the whole assembly is supplied, rather than just the stick to avoid gear change problems with it being fitted to cars with a few miles on them and having worn changer bushes & links. nick |
I sooo glad I've found this thread. I have only just got my 1st Scooby - AWD Turbo MY00 - and one of my first impressions is that the gearstick seems very long and 'yes' the travel is very long.
Short term, to prevent the 'spending lots straight away' syndrome, I think I will be solving the situation with some help from my hacksaw. |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 7088437)
If it's on a classic, you can get it to feel a whole lot better by removing the old gearknob, then fitting a Momo round one, as low down as poss.
Alcazar Then I got a drill and bored out about another 10 mm from inside the gearknob to make it sit lower down (it secures to the shaft using 3 hex bolts). Then I carefully got the original leather gator and slipped it over the short shaft - looks like a factory fit and the throw has been reduced loads now. |
The Rig
I've got a genuine Bugeye Prodrive 5 speed short shifter somewhere in the garage :D Class :D :D Shaun |
The ones pictured above appear to be for 5 speed MY93-98.
Here is my own design of short shift that we have done since around 2002. These are for all 5 speed MY99 >. Until now they were made as oneoffs. The block which connects to the linkage can move up and down the gear lever to adjust the throw. It is located by a grub screw. The pinions are nylon bushed. £70 each and made from light weight aluminium which is then anodized. http://i33.tinypic.com/2z5lix5.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/izp6k0.jpg |
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