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green un 09 February 2007 09:07 AM

1st gear gone?
 
hello all, my mates got a 94 wrx and the other night whist having a blast he couldn't get 1st gear, 1st gear is a no go 2nd is a bit notchy but 3 4 5 and reverse all seem ok.


question is- is the box fcuked? he thinks it is but i said i would ask on here see if any of you lot have had the same problem.

cheers
dave

stormsubaru 09 February 2007 09:17 AM

well, most probably yeah the syncros are shot. but it's POSSIBLE that the clutch is not fully disengaging not allowing it to get into the lower gears where there is not as much momentum/inertia all that jazz.

my old impreza did something LIKE that. First it wouldn't go into 1st then 2nd and then all. Ended up the throwout fork had broken (stamped steel POS) and therefore was not disengaging the clutch.

IMHO either way you'll have to pull the trans (kinda sucks on the floor), or at least the engine (which is like a 30 min job, yay subaru!) so keep your fingers crossed.

Oh and and more information on noises, feel, whatnot would be helpful with the diagnosis.

Peace

Jam Performance 09 February 2007 09:20 AM

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Have you tried replacing the clutch fluid and bleeding it all out, and replacing the gearbox oil with something decent like castrol syntrax or mobil gear oil??I had a notchy 2nd gear on a 93 wrx and changing the gearbox oil sorted it :)

green un 09 February 2007 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by stormsubaru (Post 6640590)
Oh and and more information on noises, feel, whatnot would be helpful with the diagnosis.
Peace

it didnt wine or anything before hand, no matter how much you try and force it into 1st it dont want to know, going into 2nd it crunches sometimes.

green un 09 February 2007 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by K18LLR (Post 6640597)
Have you tried replacing the clutch fluid and bleeding it all out, and replacing the gearbox oil with something decent like castrol syntrax or mobil gear oil??I had a notchy 2nd gear on a 93 wrx and changing the gearbox oil sorted it :)


the fluids aint been changed yet, 1st gear though it just wont go in and 2nd is crunchy. 1st seems locked shut:confused:

stormsubaru 10 February 2007 09:06 AM

if the car's not running can you put it into 1st? if so can you then start it and drive in first?

green un 10 February 2007 02:20 PM

no mate wont go in at all, went to a garage today and they said that he has stripped the main shaft? could anybody shed any light on this ? surely it wouldn't work at all, it drives fine with no nasty noises.

cheers

GazJenno 10 February 2007 03:27 PM

Bent/Broken selector fork or rod/arm?

Does it go in the position of 1st gear but when the cutch pedal is released there's not drive... if so could have stripped the 1st gear dog clutch, if thats possible. If it doesnt go in the 1st gear position and feels like there some resistance putting it in could have bent some teeth on the 1st gear dog clutch which is now stopping it engaging.

Either way its gonna have to be inspected to find out exactly, not likely to be a quick fix.

911 10 February 2007 05:05 PM

My $ is on a bent fork.
Go and discuss with David on Welcome to the API website for some zero bullsh!t advice/options

Graham

GazJenno 10 February 2007 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by 911 (Post 6645083)
...some zero bullsh!t advice/options

Graham

Were you referring to me, lol

Spec'c'57 06 September 2007 10:19 AM

i know this is dragging it back up BUT.... Did the problem get sorted? reason being is Mrs spec'C's classic did a simalar thing on sunday... Wouldn't go into first at all... A few hours later and a good regging :norty: all was fine again. :confused:

green un 07 September 2007 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Spec'c'57 (Post 7232728)
i know this is dragging it back up BUT.... Did the problem get sorted? reason being is Mrs spec'C's classic did a simalar thing on sunday... Wouldn't go into first at all... A few hours later and a good regging :norty: all was fine again. :confused:


in the end mate he changed the box, as he couldnt wait for it to be rebuilt, (he needed the car for work)


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