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JPL 18 May 2006 10:40 PM

SDS Drill - Rotary or hammer stop???
 
Hello SNetters,

Want an SDS drill to chase walls for electrics etc.

Bought a Ryobi from Screwfix, but found out today it does not have the chiselling function (I asked them prior to ordering, and they said it did :mad: ).

So, now want to move the stakes up and buy a better model, it must have the chiselling facility............ so...........

WTF is the difference between hammer stop and rotary stop please???

I have searched t' net for last 30 mins, I cannot find the answer.

What one is best suited to my DIY needs? (I will be chasing lots of walls). What one is better? (Rotary stop seems to be more expensive).

Cheers in advance.
John:D

Bubba po 18 May 2006 10:42 PM

Dunno. My DeWalt has rotary and chiselling function. :)

kingofturds 18 May 2006 10:43 PM

buy a kango :)

JPL 18 May 2006 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Bubba po
Dunno. My DeWalt has rotary and chiselling function. :)

Bubba, they don't specify "chiselling" anymore, just rotary or hammer, and it's a DeWalt I'm going to buy, one hammer stops, the other ,(only £15 dearer), rotary stops.
:wonder: :freak3:

Help!!:cry:

Bubba po 18 May 2006 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by JPL
Bubba, they don't specify "chiselling" anymore, just rotary or hammer, and it's a DeWalt I'm going to buy, one hammer stops, the other ,(only £15 dearer), rotary stops.
:wonder: :freak3:

Help!!:cry:

Look up the "DW 566 GB". If they still do that model (it's only about three years old) that has all the functions you want. :)

I would imagine that "hammer stop" means that you can choose between rotary drilling with and without hammer. "Rotary stop" should mean that you have the previous functions plus hammering without rotation. :)

ALi-B 18 May 2006 10:54 PM

Quite simple:

Rotary stop means you can stop the rotary action (hammer only...i.e chisell)
Hammer stop means you can stop teh hammer action (normal drill for steel or wood)

I have a £25 NuTool that seems to do more than your Ryobi :lol:

I can stop hammer AND rotary at the same time. so teh motor just spins and does nothing...great at fooling the missus into thinking your doing some DIY :thumb:

jimi 18 May 2006 10:55 PM

Hi

The rotor stop or hammer stop is the same thing.

I use bosch 2-20 with the chisel function and it works very well,i saw some where that was selling them for £80 the other day.

JIM

JPL 18 May 2006 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by jimi
Hi

The rotor stop or hammer stop is the same thing.

So why do DeWalt, (and many other manufacturers), sell an SDS drill with hammer stop, and another SDS drill with rotary stop? Will they both chisel? For £15 difference I don't want to get a duff one I'll regret in 2 years time, shall I just buy rotary stop?

Cheers!

Bubba po 18 May 2006 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by JPL
So why do DeWalt, (and many other manufacturers), sell an SDS drill with hammer stop, and another SDS drill with rotary stop? Will they both chisel? For £15 difference I don't want to get a duff one I'll regret in 2 years time, shall I just buy rotary stop?

Cheers!


Don't listen to Jimi, listen to ME. :mad:

Johnny E 18 May 2006 11:15 PM

I remember the days when we had a bolser chisel and a hammer:wonder:

JPL 18 May 2006 11:19 PM

Aaaaarrrrggghhh!!

This...(hammer)
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...90577&id=51086

Or this... (rotary)
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...90643&id=38347

Bubba, I don't want old hat, I want fresh and now!! :D

What one? :wonder: (And..... why??)

Chip Sengravy 18 May 2006 11:19 PM

rotary stop= that bit at the buisness end of the drill stops spinning, you fit an SDS chisel attachment, it'll just about shift calcified spunk from the underside of your desk, ironicly, most SDS roto-stpop functions are not worth a wank..

Hammer stop = hammer stop. Rotation only, drilling metal and wood with an SDS chuck adaptor.

The other setting = it spins and hammers. ideal for those red plasic things you hammer into walls.


lots of chases to do?...in blockwork?..get a chaser :thumb: .

jimi 18 May 2006 11:23 PM

The daddy of all drills.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2/DSC00491.jpg

JIM

jimi 18 May 2006 11:23 PM

..

Chip Sengravy 18 May 2006 11:26 PM

rotary stop= that bit at the buisness end of the drill stops spinning, you fit an SDS chisel attachment, it'll just about shift calcified spunk from the underside of your desk, ironicly, most SDS roto-stpop functions are not worth a wank..

Hammer stop = hammer stop. Rotation only, drilling metal and wood with an SDS chuck adaptor.

The other setting = it spins and hammers. ideal for those red plasic things you hammer into walls.


lots of chases to do?...in blockwork?..get a chaser :thumb: .

Bubba po 18 May 2006 11:28 PM

He wants a DIY drill, Jimi. :D.

jimi 18 May 2006 11:35 PM

This is a good one to get it has done a lot of hard work for years..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2/DSC00492.jpg

Drill= non percussion,ie wood or metal bits
percussion= masonary bits,ie brick,block
Rotor/hammer stop= for chiseling.
You should get a drill that has a reverse too.
i would stay away from dewalt unless you are a diyer mate

I hope this has cleared up any unhelpfull points put up by other members.

JIM

Chip Sengravy 18 May 2006 11:36 PM

Jimi is right on the money..

the bloke has a load of chases to do. so he spends 80 quid?? on a rather warm?? ebay HILTI, does the job he needs with it ( in half the time he'd spend faffing about with a squagimoshi piece of **** fron screwfix ), gives it a blast with the old WD40, then bangs it back on ebay for 80 quid.

jimi 18 May 2006 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by Chip Sengravy
Jimi is right on the money..

the bloke has a load of chases to do. so he spends 80 quid?? on a rather warm?? ebay HILTI, does the job he needs with it ( in half the time he'd spend faffing about with a squagimoshi piece of **** fron screwfix ), gives it a blast with the old WD40, then bangs it back on ebay for 80 quid.

Nice 1 chip i am gald there is some one else that knows what they are talking about.

JIM

ALi-B 18 May 2006 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by Chip Sengravy
rotary stop= that bit at the buisness end of the drill stops spinning, you fit an SDS chisel attachment, it'll just about shift calcified spunk from the underside of your desk, ironicly, most SDS roto-stpop functions are not worth a wank..

Hammer stop = hammer stop. Rotation only, drilling metal and wood with an SDS chuck adaptor.

The other setting = it spins and hammers. ideal for those red plasic things you hammer into walls.

Am I invisible??? :mad:

Chip Sengravy 19 May 2006 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by ALi-B
Am I invisible??? :mad:

chill dude, why read other replies when you can just steam in in?

ALi-B 19 May 2006 12:10 AM

...and post twice to add emphasis :D

Chip Sengravy 19 May 2006 12:11 AM

summat like that :thumb:

JPL 19 May 2006 12:41 AM

But guys... as the first post asks????


Originally Posted by JPL
WTF is the difference between hammer stop and rotary stop please???

I want a chisel action, but I also want it to drill into walls, I don't want a recommendation on the manufacturer, I just want to know what rotary and hammer stop mean.

Anybody??? :freak3:

ALi-B 19 May 2006 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by ALi-B
Quite simple:

Rotary stop means you can stop the rotary action (hammer only...i.e chisell)
Hammer stop means you can stop teh hammer action (normal drill for steel or wood)

I have a £25 NuTool that seems to do more than your Ryobi :lol:

I can stop hammer AND rotary at the same time. so teh motor just spins and does nothing...great at fooling the missus into thinking your doing some DIY :thumb:


I'll say it again, am I invisible?? :wonder:

Chip...looks like you are too :brickwall

JPL 19 May 2006 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by ALi-B
I'll say it again, am I invisible?? :wonder:

Chip...looks like you are too :brickwall

Rotary stop means you can stop the rotary action (hammer only...i.e chisell)
Hammer stop means you can stop teh hammer action (normal drill for steel or wood)


Ali-B, not ignoring you... just not understanding you!

Too late for me now... Had too many Stella's... I'm going to ask a simple Q...

All SDS drills have normal drilling & hammer drilling....
Some have hammer stop only
Some have rotary stop only (from what I can read!)

What do I need for chiselling into plaster, concrete, etc, for DIY work? I am assuming rotary stop is the best to get, can someone please clarify.

Please, please, try to understand before I die :lol1:

John:D

kingofturds 19 May 2006 12:58 AM

buy a kangoo hammer drill, makes mince meat of chasing:thumb:

JPL 19 May 2006 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by kingofturds
buy a kangoo hammer drill, makes mince meat of chasing:thumb:

NO!!! :mad: :D

This...(hammer)
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...90577&id=51086

Or this... (rotary)
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...90643&id=38347


What's the difference for chiselling and normall SDS drilling?

Bubba po 19 May 2006 08:02 AM

JPL, you're being a really thick spaz, now, if you don't mind me saying. :lol1:

alcazar 19 May 2006 08:39 AM

Just looked at this, and can't get my head around the number of times the SAME question has been asked..........AND ANSWERED!!!

JPL: are you on a wind-up, drunk, or just genuinely daft?:D

HAMMER STOP: means it stops hammering. The chuck still turns. It's for drilling wood, metal etc.

ROTARY STOP: means the chuck stops turning. It still hammers. It's for chiselling, etc.

So NOW which do you need? Obviously, rotary stop.

Have a look here: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...24240&id=93863

A superb piece of kit. Got one myself, in France. Two quick-change chucks, variable speed, hammer stop, rotary stop, 800w, case, and some free tools.

Alcazar


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