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pippyrips 20 April 2006 08:47 PM

fixed speeding penalty fine
 
In january of this year i was pulled by an unmarked car for speeding (70mph) on a 50mph dual carriage way.

At the time the copper told me i had 3points coming my way and a £60 fine, as did the woman at the station when i surrended my licence.

Now i know speeding isn't big or cleaver etc before it all kicks off however, I've now recieved a letter saying the fine is £90 - since when did an SP30 (got licence back with with this code) carry a £90 fine?

stilover 20 April 2006 08:55 PM

A SP30 is given out if you speed in a 30mph Zone.
You must have another SP(number). Check the documents they hace sent you. It should say everything in there.

Bad luck anyway. 70mph isn't too bad, no worse than doing 90 in a 70 zone (motorway) we all do it. Those that say they don't are lying, or just trying to get everyones back up.

hedgehog 20 April 2006 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by stilover
A SP30 is given out if you speed in a 30mph Zone.
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Rubbish. Sp30 is the offence code for exceeding the limit on a public road.

Did you just produce your licence at the police station or did you actually hand it over?

The police don't give you points and a fine, nor do they decide to fine you though they will probably give you a verbal NIP.

Any chance there was a court case and you were found guilty in your absence? That might explain the £90.

Loads of stuff here doesn't quite add up.

stilover 20 April 2006 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by hedgehog
Rubbish. Sp30 is the offence code for exceeding the limit on a public road.

What's a SP60 then ???
I thought that was exceeding the speed limit in a 60mph zone. Only ever had one SP30 (in a 30mph zone) so assumed that was what it meant.

pippyrips 20 April 2006 09:10 PM

SP30 is the code i was given -i handed my licence in to the station along with the paper part and have since recieved it back with the code written on it.

When i was at the station the lady asked me if i was contesting it (which i wasn't) and told me to pay to the address on the back of the speeding ticket which you keep as a type of licence which yours is with the dvla.

So I sent the cheque of ages ago - about 3 weeks ago i noticed it hadn't been cashed so phoned the dvla to find out what was going on. They told me they hadn't recieved my licence from the police as yet so i should wait a few weeks longer as it often took this amount of time. About a week and a half ago i recieved the licence back so thought all was sorted.

Next thing i hear is the letter today stating the fine of £90.

They obviously didn't get my cheque, however the letter states it is a £90 and always was - any ideas?


Originally Posted by hedgehog
Rubbish. Sp30 is the offence code for exceeding the limit on a public road.

Did you just produce your licence at the police station or did you actually hand it over?

The police don't give you points and a fine, nor do they decide to fine you though they will probably give you a verbal NIP.

Any chance there was a court case and you were found guilty in your absence? That might explain the £90.

Loads of stuff here doesn't quite add up.


bluto22b 20 April 2006 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by stilover
What's a SP60 then ???
I thought that was exceeding the speed limit in a 60mph zone. Only ever had one SP30 (in a 30mph zone) so assumed that was what it meant.

You are all talking bollocks (except Hedgehog ;) ) SP30 is speeding on a public road. I am not sure what SP60 is maybe it is "speeding on a public road with menaces"

There is now a teir system for fines, don't quote me but it increases exponentially by the amount over the speed limit. Look at the DVLA site for details.

Gazz300 20 April 2006 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by pippyrips
In january of this year i was pulled by an unmarked car for speeding (70mph) on a 50mph dual carriage way.

At the time the copper told me i had 3points coming my way and a £60 fine, as did the woman at the station when i surrended my licence.

Now i know speeding isn't big or cleaver etc before it all kicks off however, I've now recieved a letter saying the fine is £90 - since when did an SP30 (got licence back with with this code) carry a £90 fine?

Ouch fella! I bet that hurt.:cry:

pippyrips 20 April 2006 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Gazz300
Ouch fella! I bet that hurt.:cry:

even more so when i was told my 2 separate coppers that it was £60 fine

pippyrips 20 April 2006 09:17 PM

just found these:
Speed Limits
SP10
Exceeding goods vehicle speed limits.......... 3-6

SP20
Exceeding speed limit for type of vehicle (excluding goods or passenger vehicles)..........
3-6

SP30
Exceeding statutory speed limit on a public road.......... 3-6
SP40
Exceeding passenger vehicle speed limit.......... 3-6

SP50
Exceeding speed limit on a motorway.......... 3-6

no mention of fine though

John57 20 April 2006 09:23 PM

The fine is £60 + 3 points which goes up to £90 if you don't pay in 28 days.

Can you prove you sent the cheque - I always recommend people get a certificate of posting or send the cheque recorded delivery in case it goes missing.

If you can prove you sent the cheque I am sure they will end up accepting £60. If you can't prove you sent it you may end up paying £90.

Gazz300 20 April 2006 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by pippyrips
even more so when i was told my 2 separate coppers that it was £60 fine

I hope you've learnt you lesson now young man. Before someone gets hurt.

:cuckoo:

Probably me! PMSL. Good luck Rob although you may be :brickwall

ZYRUSS 21 April 2006 12:30 AM

just for people to take a look at before posting about a subject they clearly know sweet fcuk all about


http://www.biker247.com/news/223.asp

RIGPIG 21 April 2006 01:00 AM


Originally Posted by ZYRUSS
just for people to take a look at before posting about a subject they clearly know sweet fcuk all about


Isn't this now SN policy..?:rolleyes:

_Meridian_ 21 April 2006 07:18 AM

My understanding (and I wait to be corrected) is that SP30s only apply on NSL roads, and roads which are 30mph because they are single carriageway in built-up areas etc. All other speed limits are in place because of local council orders, not the main road traffic law, so they are not "statutory limits". So in those cases SP60 is correct.


M

suffolkdar 21 April 2006 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by ZYRUSS

Bring on the Power Rangers!:D

JGRIFF 21 April 2006 09:09 AM

Just to clarify
 
Speed Limits
SP10
Exceeding goods vehicle speed limits.......... 3-6

SP20
Exceeding speed limit for type of vehicle (excluding goods or passenger vehicles)..........
3-6

SP30
Exceeding statutory speed limit on a public road.......... 3-6
SP40
Exceeding passenger vehicle speed limit.......... 3-6

SP50
Exceeding speed limit on a motorway.......... 3-6

bluto22b 21 April 2006 09:35 AM

wtf is an SP60 then :confused:

LiamWR1(2) 21 April 2006 09:46 AM

SP60 Undefined speed limit offence.......... SP60 should normally only be issued when other offence codes do not apply - for example at a temporary speed limit at road works

NPeckt 21 April 2006 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by bluto22b
wtf is an SP60 then :confused:

From the above site



SP60 Undefined speed limit offence..........


Paul continues: ''The problem is that SP60 should normally only be issued when other offence codes do not apply - for example at a temporary speed limit at road works.''

''Having an endorsement will often increase the cost of motor insurance'' explained Paul, ''but the problem here is that SP60 premium increases are frequently greater than SP30 premium increases. I recommend that everyone check their driving licence and ensure that they have been issued with the correct offence code. Anyone whose offence is wrongly coded may be entitled to compensation, and they should certainly get any error corrected.''


pippyrips 21 April 2006 07:39 PM

quick update:

called today and after going round the houses for an hour was told that it if i write a letter thlling them what i already have in my previous post they will drop the fine back down to £60 - went to £90 as they didn't revieve cheque :Whatever_


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