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middxsti 18 April 2006 12:51 PM

getting trim
 
Right i want to look good for summer!i need to lose 4 stones,i'm 5ft10 and 16stone,
I've bought some 1kg ankle and wrist weights for when i'm jogging,but what about dumbells does anyone know what weights are ideal for a begginer,and what techniques ahould be used?i'm not skinny,but quite stocky,so i can probably take around 40kg each arm,any one got any ideas.....

Tiggs 18 April 2006 12:53 PM

diet and keep running....worry about the dumbells when your not 4 stone overweight!!!!

falkster 18 April 2006 12:56 PM

40kgs per arm?? Fook me when I used to go to the gym with a good friend we used to start on 20kgs per arm and finish around 25kgs and he would go up to 30kgs but he's huge and been doing weights for 15 years!!

I would say smaller weights for longer sets.

middxsti 18 April 2006 01:02 PM

i am strong physically,without boasting,i used to break and lift rocks when i was living in india,since i was a nipper:)
I just want to get rid of the spare michelin tyre around my waist,and have good looking physique.

CooperS 18 April 2006 01:04 PM

40kg per arm? you must be massive?

Tiggs 18 April 2006 01:08 PM

4 stone is a HUGE amount of extra weight considering you want to weigh just 12.

forget the weights (40kg dumbells????? ) and stop eating so much and keep on the running.

Those dumbells will just make you look like a fat bloke with strong arms, hardly a nice image on a summers day! Worry about the weights once your body fat is down.

ScoobyDoo555 18 April 2006 01:09 PM

With that sort of weight, you'll be gaining in bulk, rather than trimming down.

The easiest way to lose weight is use more calories than you intake.

Simple.

The rest of it will just make you fitter - which in my case isn't a bad thing, as I've already got the bulk, but I could do with losing a few pounds adn gaining a cardio workout :)

Dan

middxsti 18 April 2006 01:11 PM

My 2 labradors are about 45kg each,i can pick them both up,one in each arm,with a bit of struggle,but i can still pick them up:lol1:
So has anyone got any exercise routines or techniques?i'm on a diet now,no junk,fizzy drinks,no more eatinglate...

CooperS 18 April 2006 01:14 PM

use your labs to bench press, at least if you start to struggle and drop them, it'll be softer than dropping weights on your face :D

CooperS 18 April 2006 01:15 PM

oh yeah, tips that worked for me, stay on the treadmill for longer than you want, when you start reaching for the button to slow yourself down, make yourself keep from pressing the button, it's surprising how easy it is to do 10k the first time you do it.

middxsti 18 April 2006 01:20 PM

I've heard jogging first thing in the morning is the best time to burn fat,before breakfast,is this true?

SideShowBob 18 April 2006 01:21 PM

The simple equation is burn more calories than you consume, and consume "good" calories.

Eat 5 times a day, avoiding single large meals, as traditionally you eat when you're hungry, but hunger causes the body to store fat reserves (it goes into a survival mode), whereas eating 5 times a day means your metabolisim remains high, and your body doesnt feel the need to store fat reserves.
You need fats in your diet, but the best ones are from things like fish and nuts.
You'll also burn more calories maintaining a higher metabolism.

Excercise needs to be regular, and aerobic if you're looking to lose weight.
Any weights you want to do should be high rep, low weight, unless you want to build? If you plan to build muscle, you need low(er) reps, heavy weights (but remember that muscle weighs more than fat, so if weight loss is the goal, dont build muscle)

Try and excercise each day, but target different areas on consequent days, so dont run Monday, cycle Tuesday, rather run Monday, target upper body Tuesday, cycle Wednesday, so you give the relevent muscle groups time to recover (otherwise they fatigue)
Saying that, something that works you all over like a cross trainer could be done every day, as its low impact, and works lower and upper body.

The essential part of all of this is eat well, regullaly, and excercise hard at least three times a week.
Cutting out things like cans of fizzy drink, and cutting down on take aways, can give really good, fast results (if you have lots of either).

There are calorie calculators on the net that can help you determine how many calories you want to be consuming to lose weight, and that'll help you keep track of your daily intake.

Good luck with it, might be worth joining a gym, as you have a range of excellent machines, and can better target specific areas, and also keeps you motivated (if for no other reason that they cost lots!!).
Stick with it, and be interesting to hear how you get on.

lightning101 18 April 2006 01:22 PM

Why do I get the feeling he means pounds and not kilos :)

16 stone lifting 80kg in dumbell form :wonder:

wez_sti 18 April 2006 01:26 PM

Lifting up your 45 kg dogs with one arm is one thing

doing 3 x 10 arm curls/chest presses or whatever with dumbells is quite another!

I'm a pretty strong guy and i use about 15kg's, if i see someone using anything over 20kgs they are normally the size of a house!


Sounds like your in a simular situation to me, i want to lose bulk/fat for the summer and get a bit of definition.

loads of c.v work and a good diet would be by far the most important things in my humble opinion....

SideShowBob 18 April 2006 01:28 PM

Yeah, ive not come accross 80kg dumbells, usually top out about 40kg's, and 40kg's in each hand doing something like dumbell presses is certainly possible, and very impressive, but not curls or anything.

wez_sti 18 April 2006 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by lightning101

Why do I get the feeling he means pounds and not kilos :)

16 stone lifting 80kg in dumbell form :wonder:

dunno, but that would be the equivelent (sp) of lifting a petite girl with each arm...?? :wonder:

Middxsti, you dont keep finding yourself in strange places with all your clothes ripped? maybe after someone made you angry?

lightning101 18 April 2006 01:31 PM

Oh I could manage it no problem, but i'm not 16 stone ;)

SideShowBob 18 April 2006 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by middxsti
I've heard jogging first thing in the morning is the best time to burn fat,before breakfast,is this true?

Cardio first thing in the morning burns more fat, so if you can do it, its certainly worthwhile getting your excercise in early.

ScoobyDoo555 18 April 2006 01:33 PM

hmm, when I was weight-trainin properly, I got up to bench pressing 40Kg (2 x 20Kgs)..... couldn't do it now though :D


Dan

middxsti 18 April 2006 01:33 PM

i think picking up my dogs is different from actual weights,doubt i could do it,considering how out of shape i am atm.

lightning101 18 April 2006 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo555
hmm, when I was weight-trainin properly, I got up to bench pressing 40Kg (2 x 20Kgs)..... couldn't do it now though :D


Dan


I can bench over 200kgs - 40kg is only one plate each side, if the bar's not bending, you aren't trying hard enough :lol1:

rik1471 18 April 2006 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by lightning101
I can bench over 200kgs - 40kg is only one plate each side, if the bar's not bending, you aren't trying hard enough :lol1:

...or you need another shot of anabolics?

SideShowBob 18 April 2006 01:41 PM

You've also got to add in the weight of the bar, 20kg's for an olympic bar, so you're actually doing 60kg's (depending on the bar).

I only bench press once a week, and can only press a puny 55kg's, havent done bench press long, so looking to increase quickly.

Over 200 is hard core, there's a bloke at work thats done 205kg's, scary stuff.

lightning101 18 April 2006 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by rik1471
...or you need another shot of anabolics?

How very dare you :lol1:

BrettC 18 April 2006 01:45 PM

I would have thought picking up your two dogs ie, 1 in each arm would be far harder than picking up a 2 purpose built dumbells of 40kg each.

When you say, 'so i can probably take around 40kg each arm,' do you mean just lifting the weight of the floor like picking up two tool boxes at your sides or actually curling the weight as in a bicep curl?

I weigh 82kgs and I can curl 20+kg no problem (6- 8 slow reps with good form) and I so do not look strong at all.

BrettC 18 April 2006 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by lightning101
I can bench over 200kgs - 40kg is only one plate each side, if the bar's not bending, you aren't trying hard enough :lol1:

I weigh 82kgs and can bench press between 80-100kgs.
I most certainly would bend and snap before the bar ever would! :D

falkster 18 April 2006 01:48 PM

But youre not going to curl your dogs are you!

lightning101 18 April 2006 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by BrettC
I weigh 82kgs and can bench press between 80-100kgs.
I most certainly would bend and snap before the bar ever would! :D

You'd be surprised at how small some people are that can bench 200kgs

This guy is small and has 6x25kg, 2x15kg and a 20kg bar - 200kgs

http://www.petriepc.com/200kg.jpg

BrettC 18 April 2006 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by lightning101
You'd be surprised at how small some people are that can bench 200kgs

This guy is small and has 6x25kg, 2x15kg and a 20kg bar - 200kgs

http://www.petriepc.com/200kg.jpg

Im not small in terms of height but when you compare me to a racing snake im a bit on the slim side maybe even a bit gangly! :) not suited to the old bench press at all.

wez_sti 18 April 2006 01:58 PM

:lol: looks like he laid down on something sharp the way he's arching his back!


dunno what i could bench press as a maximum. not going for out n' out bulk so havent really tried!

plus i'd look a right t1t lying there with a bar across my chest if i tried too much! :lol1:


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