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vallumlj 26 March 2006 12:20 AM

classic imprezas
 
1)
can some one tell me the difference bewteen a jap wrx and sti. You see a lot of import wrx 's but not many sti are they a lot quicker?

2)
Is the p1 a lot quicker than a jap wrx

3)

how does the new wrx compare with the classic wrx is there a big diffence.

thanks a lot

corradoboy 26 March 2006 01:07 AM

The JDM WRX was IRO 240bhp, where the STi benefited with revisions by Subaru Technica International, pushing output to 280bhp. I'm no expert on classics, so I don't know if they benefited with any other revisions such as suspension or engine internals :wonder: The P1 is to all intents a JDM STi V5 (IIRC), breathed on by Prodrive and officially imported and warrantied. I don't think there's much difference between the two TBH. It was a move by IM/Subaru UK to cash in on the interest in the higher spec JDM cars as opposed to the 208bhp UK Turbo. The new-age chassis which is now in its third cosmetic revision (bugeye/blobeye/hawkeye) was reported to be 200% more rigid than the outgoing classic. The car grew a little bigger and a bit heavier (better made), but also got a little more power up to 215bhp. The turbo delivery was more progressive than in the classic, leading to comments about it being slower as it had lost a little of the "shove in the back". As the new shape evolved into blobeye, power crept up with the WRX getting 225, with 265 available with the PPP. The STi came in 02 offering 260bhp and 280 PPP'd with the piggyback ECU. The blobeye STi rose to 265 and 305 with the new swapout ECU.

I may have made a mistake or two, but that's how I remember it. I await correction by those more knowledgeable.

WRXtra power 26 March 2006 01:28 AM


Originally Posted by corradoboy
The JDM WRX was IRO 240bhp

True, but only at the start........

JDM WRX's up to end of 94 were 240bhp then they were pushed up to 260bhp until the facelift in late 96 early 97 where they were increased again to 280bhp

JDM STI's were first released in late 93 and up to the end of 94 were 250bhp then they were pushed up to 275bhp until the facelift in late 96 early 97 where they were increased again to 280bhp where they became on par with the WRX (although the STI was always better spec in terms of performance parts i.e engine internals, brakes, suspension etc)

Have no idea about the bug eye onwards, sorry. Hope this helps though. :thumb:

corradoboy 26 March 2006 02:12 AM

Told you I knew feck all about classics :D

JTaylor 26 March 2006 07:47 AM

This is quite coherent Subaru Impreza FAQ

TonyBurns 26 March 2006 09:21 AM

Figures should state PS and not BHP ;) ie 280ps is 276bhp, 240ps is 237bhp and the WRX wagons (early models) ran 220ps (218bhp) all on 100 ron fuel :)

Tony:D

scoobywhite74 26 March 2006 09:40 AM

3/ weight on a new age bugeye wrx is 1385kg(saloon)

and 1410kgs(estate) so power to weight is 155bhp per ton and 152bhp (estate), as classic 94-98 is 1235kgs and 1270kgs ptw is 171bhp 98-2000 is 174bhp :thumb:

vallumlj 26 March 2006 11:36 AM

so my wrx 99 should be a 276 bhp one

New_scooby_04 26 March 2006 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by corradoboy
It was a move by IM/Subaru UK to cash in on the interest in the higher spec JDM cars as opposed to the 208bhp UK Turbo. The new-age chassis which is now in its third cosmetic revision (bugeye/blobeye/hawkeye) was reported to be 200% more rigid than the outgoing classic. The car grew a little bigger and a bit heavier (better made), but also got a little more power up to 215bhp. The turbo delivery was more progressive than in the classic, leading to comments about it being slower as it had lost a little of the "shove in the back". .

Not quite correct regarding power outputs for classics mate. The MY99 onwards with the phase two boxer engines produced 215bhp and the same torque. I think there may have been a nominal increase in bhp for the bugeye (about 218), but this was offset by a significant weight gain (about 150 kilos) IIRC. The Bugeyes, as you've said, got 225 bhp

Ns04

WRXtra power 26 March 2006 11:44 AM

Yes vallumlj

BLACK V5 26 March 2006 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by vallumlj
so my wrx 99 should be a 276 bhp one


Yes

BUDWRX 26 March 2006 03:38 PM

so whats mine then?? 1993 jap wrx? have always been told it was 280??

BLACK V5 26 March 2006 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by BUDWRX
so whats mine then?? 1993 jap wrx? have always been told it was 280??

240ps. So 236bhp, unless its a wagon then 220ps.

BUDWRX 26 March 2006 04:02 PM

ok cheers

WRXtra power 26 March 2006 04:04 PM

:lol: Thats gotta hurt!!!!!! You have been living a lie..........:lol1:

BUDWRX 26 March 2006 04:10 PM

lol na it is far from standard now :)


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