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chris dt 10 November 2005 08:33 PM

urgent advice needed
 
just had my type r serviced.engine has gone on the way home only about 40 miles.give it a little stick but not alot.ive checked the receipt and they have used engine flush.is this ok because im sure its a no no for subarus.any advice would be useful.

Turbotits 10 November 2005 08:46 PM

dont know about the flush,More importantly was this a scooby specialist?And was the filter pre-filled before fitment?You wont be the first to have an engine let go shortly after a service,Often due to oil starvation to the bearings from not filling the filter.

chris dt 10 November 2005 08:58 PM

they came highly recommended.i wont mention thier name yet until ive spoken to them 2moro.im gutted.had this happen on my wrx,not just after a service tho.My car was running fine just thoght it needed a service.now im facing a5k bill.

Originally Posted by Turbotits
dont know about the flush,More importantly was this a scooby specialist?And was the filter pre-filled before fitment?You wont be the first to have an engine let go shortly after a service,Often due to oil starvation to the bearings from not filling the filter.


EVOLUTION 10 November 2005 08:58 PM

i cant see the problem in using a flush TBH, so long as its taken out because what it does is thin down the oil to make it drain easier. so you dont want any left in when refilling.

the more import issue would be is that it has it has the correct amount of oil in now.


i may be wrong about the flush, i may well be corrected here

Turbotits 10 November 2005 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
i cant see the problem in using a flush TBH, so long as its taken out because what it does is thin down the oil to make it drain easier. so you dont want any left in when refilling.

the more import issue would be is that it has it has the correct amount of oil in now.


i may be wrong about the flush, i may well be corrected here


Yes thats another point has the oil been filled to the correct level,Is the sump plug or oil filter Loose/leaking

chris dt 10 November 2005 09:05 PM

ill check the oil in the morning.what id like to know is will i be saddled with the bill for a new engine or do you think the garage could be held responsible in full or in part?

Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
i cant see the problem in using a flush TBH, so long as its taken out because what it does is thin down the oil to make it drain easier. so you dont want any left in when refilling.

the more import issue would be is that it has it has the correct amount of oil in now.


i may be wrong about the flush, i may well be corrected here


GC8 10 November 2005 09:14 PM

A worrying number of threads seem to start: '.....Ive just had my oil changed and now Ive run my bearings.....'.


Simon

stockcar 10 November 2005 09:15 PM

we never use flushes in high performance cars, most specifically Subaru's.............................

you may find the oil has been over-filled and this can lead to various problems potentially causing engine failure

to be fair to the garage, Type-R's are notoriously bad when it comes to fuel so may not be connected at all??

alyn

rigga 10 November 2005 09:43 PM

personally i would never use engine flush in an engine that has covered a decent ammount of miles and never ben flushed before........ used to use it in all the customers cars at work,thought id try it my astra sri,80k covered and nothing wrong with it engine wise,flushed it when changing the oil and filter and pretty quickly the crank started to knock on start up..maybe a coincidence maybe not,i wont be trying it in the scoob thats for certain

chris dt 10 November 2005 10:18 PM

Thank you for your replies.The general concensus being do not use engine flush when changing the oil, do you think i stand a chance of getting some sort of commpensation from the garage, being that they are reputable establishment being not worried by the fact that it way a subaru?

thanks
Chris


Originally Posted by rigga
personally i would never use engine flush in an engine that has covered a decent ammount of miles and never ben flushed before........ used to use it in all the customers cars at work,thought id try it my astra sri,80k covered and nothing wrong with it engine wise,flushed it when changing the oil and filter and pretty quickly the crank started to knock on start up..maybe a coincidence maybe not,i wont be trying it in the scoob thats for certain


Brun 11 November 2005 12:29 AM

Calling David from API................... Not a fan of flush :)

Chip Sengravy 11 November 2005 12:49 AM


Originally Posted by Brun
Calling David from API................... Not a fan of flush :)

I bet his bathroom stinks!

:D


Bad luck with the engine!

EVOLUTION 11 November 2005 08:25 AM

i hate to put a bit of a downer on it, but its going to be a hard time getting it before the engine lets go, if in fact it does, i would probably take it to a subaru specialist ASAP to get it checked out.

is it wrote antwhere that you must NOT use an engine flush in your car. Because before now, i would have said you could, personly i have never had a problem with the stuff, that said and here read, i dont think i will use it on mine if i ever get it back now


john

chris dt 11 November 2005 08:32 AM

good news!!!Spoke to the garage this morning,they are coming to pick it up to see what the problem is!Im hopeful that all will be resolved amicably.

Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
i hate to put a bit of a downer on it, but its going to be a hard time getting it before the engine lets go, if in fact it does, i would probably take it to a subaru specialist ASAP to get it checked out.

is it wrote antwhere that you must NOT use an engine flush in your car. Because before now, i would have said you could, personly i have never had a problem with the stuff, that said and here read, i dont think i will use it on mine if i ever get it back now


john


EVOLUTION 11 November 2005 08:59 AM

great, nice to see a company actually doing the right thing for a change.

Hope it gets sorted


john

chris dt 11 November 2005 09:06 AM

Me too.there was not athing wrong with the car before the service.100% reliable!ill sleep easier once i know the outcome tho,which hopefully will be the garage doing the right thing!Good luck with yours as well

chris


Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
great, nice to see a company actually doing the right thing for a change.

Hope it gets sorted


john


Turbotits 11 November 2005 09:53 AM

Good to hear,I hope the results are ok

APIDavid 11 November 2005 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Brun
Calling David from API................... Not a fan of flush :)

The ONLY flush you want in an Impreza is the one on your passengers faces when you show them how it goes, especialy round corners......

Engines flush in an Impreza? NEVER - Got it ? NEVER

David APi Engines / APi Impreza
www.apiengines.com

Good Luck Chris keep in touch if you need.

chris dt 11 November 2005 10:59 AM

Me too.RAC just turned up,unable to tow it because of the 4wd.they checked the engine oil.said it was way overfilled and that it sounds like the big ends have gone!!!now i have to wait for tow truck!!

Originally Posted by Turbotits
Good to hear,I hope the results are ok


Jay m A 11 November 2005 12:28 PM

Get an independent witness to verify the overfilled oil before it goes away to the garage - ask the RAC

oilman 11 November 2005 04:26 PM

I agree with API David, I would not recommend a flush.

If the car has had decent oil in it throughout it's life, it's not worth the risk of dislodging built up particles (if they exist).

Cheers
Simon

justanotherperson 11 November 2005 04:46 PM

get the rac to do the report on the oil being overfilled!!

chris dt 13 November 2005 05:05 PM

before the rac left he left a customer satisfaction card,with a comment on the bottom stating that the oil level was too high.the garage called when the car went in to say that the oil level was fine and that it was holding oil pressure but the big ends were rather noisy!!!

Going in to see him 2moro and see where we go from here!I still cant believe he put flushing solution in the car.

Watch this space!!!

Thank you for all your comments.

chris



Originally Posted by justanotherperson
get the rac to do the report on the oil being overfilled!!


chris dt 14 November 2005 07:08 PM

type r
 
Well today they have drained the sump and found the remains of one of the shells in the oil.Looks like they are going to take out the engine but im still not getting any real answers from them on who is responsible as they have not found anything wrong other than the fact the big ends have gone.ill know more on wednesday.
All i want is my car back in the condition i left it with them.looks like that may be a long way off!!!
chris

Originally Posted by chris dt
before the rac left he left a customer satisfaction card,with a comment on the bottom stating that the oil level was too high.the garage called when the car went in to say that the oil level was fine and that it was holding oil pressure but the big ends were rather noisy!!!

Going in to see him 2moro and see where we go from here!I still cant believe he put flushing solution in the car.

Watch this space!!!

Thank you for all your comments.

chris


p1doc 14 November 2005 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by Chip Sengravy
I bet his bathroom stinks!

:D


pmsl
martin


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