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G_Sleigh_STi 26 September 2005 03:40 PM

EVO V Scooby top end. Why the huge difference?
 
hey people.

Just asking as i really want to know.

My Scooby STI8 reads up to 160mph on the clock
My friends EVO FQ320 reads up to 180mph on the clock

My top end from standard start on a 2 mile run is 149mph and really running out of steam
My mates EVO flys past that barrier and has done over 170mph.

Is it gear box ratios that we have th blaim? or is there another reason?

Which expert knows about this?

DBY 26 September 2005 03:42 PM

Because the Evo's the fatser car, It's the better car LOL

G_Sleigh_STi 26 September 2005 03:52 PM

How would that work when i have more power than an FQ320? Thats not a good enough reason.

maci 26 September 2005 03:57 PM

Maybe you have an electonic limiter ?

TheJesus 26 September 2005 03:58 PM

he is right though, better/faster cars and completely different. The only similarity is they are both rally cars, both 4WD and both have turbo's.

G_Sleigh_STi 26 September 2005 04:02 PM

Hmmm..

I had the choice between the STI and the FQ320. I went with the STi on the final factor that i think the new age one looked better and it had a flat 4 burble.

It would appear that was the wrong decision, even after £5k worth of tuning it aint matching the FQ320. DOH....

C2forWRX 26 September 2005 04:05 PM

I thought evo's were limited to 157mph

G_Sleigh_STi 26 September 2005 04:10 PM

Well i will assume this one isnt because it was timed with all that Sat tracking gear.

ex-webby 26 September 2005 04:13 PM

Gearing, bhp and drag. Those are the main reasons why one would be faster than another.

If your mates EVO fly's past 170mph....... I would hazard a guess that it's running a bucketload more than 280bhp! ;) Ooops sorry just read it was a FQ320...... personally I still dont believe a FQ320 would do over 170mph...... but I could always be wrong! ;) Is it a FQ320 with a 450bhp engine! lol

Regards,
Shaun.

G_Sleigh_STi 26 September 2005 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by webmaster
Gearing, bhp and drag. Those are the main reasons why one would be faster than another.

If your mates EVO fly's past 170mph....... I would hazard a guess that it's running a bucketload more than 280bhp! ;) Ooops sorry just read it was a FQ320...... personally I still dont believe a FQ320 would do over 170mph...... but I could always be wrong! ;) Is it a FQ320 with a 450bhp engine! lol

Regards,
Shaun.

I will get the video footage up when i can :)
At the moment i believe its running about 340bhp and has plans to go 400bhp next month. But at the moment its almost standard.

Even with all my tuning it still pulls top in every gear better.

CyprusScooby 26 September 2005 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by G_Sleigh_STi
hey people.

Just asking as i really want to know.

My Scooby STI8 reads up to 160mph on the clock
My friends EVO FQ320 reads up to 180mph on the clock

My top end from standard start on a 2 mile run is 149mph and really running out of steam
My mates EVO flys past that barrier and has done over 170mph.

Is it gear box ratios that we have th blaim? or is there another reason?

Which expert knows about this?

My STi5 Speedo reads 180mph and I eat Evo's for breakfast!:hjtwofing

G_Sleigh_STi 26 September 2005 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by CyprusScooby
My STi5 Speedo reads 18omph and I eat Evo's for breakfast!:hjtwofing

Our top speed times were done with £10k's worth of sat telemitry equipment, not speedo readings so i would guess they are pretty accurate.

I guess your impreza is not standard by a long shot. lol.

Anyone gonna throw some hardcore technical info into this thread :)

CyprusScooby 26 September 2005 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by G_Sleigh_STi
Our top speed times were done with £10k's worth of sat telemitry equipment, not speedo readings so i would guess they are pretty accurate.

I guess your impreza is not standard by a long shot. lol.

Anyone gonna throw some hardcore technical info into this thread :)

Mine is a standard STi Type-R V5 and I've beat many of standard Evo's on RWYB on a runway, all calibrated with Police Speed guns. I have alot less weight and a handy little thing called DCCD! :norty:

P.S. All running on 100octane!

frayz 26 September 2005 05:22 PM

Damm,

i used to eat evos in the cossie,

dont think im gonna enjoy losing in my sti7 :(

Varboy 26 September 2005 05:26 PM

the main thing would be aerodynamics, that's why supercars are shaped as they are, though I can't see why the Evo would be any more aerodynamic than the Scoob

stilover 26 September 2005 05:32 PM

Just cos the speedo says 180mph does'nt mean it will get there.
Change yours for one that says 200mph, then yours will be the faster car :D

mrjud 26 September 2005 05:42 PM

i have a 94scoob(love of my life) and my m8 has an evo6 i piss all over him in 1st 2nd and early 3rd then he comes past me changing in to 4th bareing in mind mine stands me at 8.5k inclueding buying it and his stands him at over 37k now i'm really not that bothered int might be quicker on the straight lines but where in the uk are these. where as on the back roads and normal country roads its a fun battle but the shiney red scoob seems to come out on top. i love my scoob and when i was looking for one 3 of my mates have evo's and were all saying buy an evo there more reliable much faster blardy blardy blar. I didn't now all of them have been in the garage one for a snap con rod (7k rebuild) one for a diff tight tw@t just bought to tyres. and the other need output shaft baerings (£1200).Mines still running sounds awesome and is allround a better buy.
don't moan about it if you want an evo sell up and buy one and i'll look forward to meeting you on the roads.
Not impressed when tghe 6's get beat by a car 7 years its junior
cheers scooby lovers

mattvortex 26 September 2005 05:51 PM

thought scoobies/evos were about acceleration-not flatout motorway driving. personally, if i was only interested in top end, id buy a big-engined BMW or Merc. Even a standard uk turbo will do 145mph which personally id rather see lower to 130mph but obviously because of lower gearing for better acceleration.

CyprusScooby 26 September 2005 06:13 PM

I can definately tell you from experience that Evos are ALOT more unreliable than Scoobies. With the temp being alot hotter out here, it really shows you what the better made cars are!
Even all the Performance Garages out here say Scoobs are much better!

minted_aye 26 September 2005 06:39 PM

I have an STI PPP 2002 and I cant imagine running out of steam at 149 mph, my car pulls like a train and never seems to stop.

The speedo most showing the 180 is normally kilometers converted for the UK market to show MPH that is all.


Originally Posted by G_Sleigh_STi
hey people.


Just asking as i really want to know.

My Scooby STI8 reads up to 160mph on the clock
My friends EVO FQ320 reads up to 180mph on the clock

My top end from standard start on a 2 mile run is 149mph and really running out of steam
My mates EVO flys past that barrier and has done over 170mph.

Is it gear box ratios that we have th blaim? or is there another reason?

Which expert knows about this?


mrjud 26 September 2005 06:48 PM

agree with this total espcially as the evo only came a uk car in late 6 if not 7 but i'm sure its very late 6's quote me if i'm wrong but i'm sure this is correct

The speedo most showing the 180 is normally kilometers converted for the UK market to show MPH that is all.[/QUOTE]

CyprusScooby 26 September 2005 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by mrjud
agree with this total espcially as the evo only came a uk car in late 6 if not 7 but i'm sure its very late 6's quote me if i'm wrong but i'm sure this is correct

The speedo most showing the 180 is normally kilometers converted for the UK market to show MPH that is all.

[/QUOTE]
Your right, the first 'official' Evo's imported into the UK by Mitsubishi UK were the EVO 6 (the best one!).

ex-webby 26 September 2005 07:13 PM

Guys..... this original question was not about the speedo's (or perhaps it was lol) or certainly what car is better than the other..... but the more interesting part is that it has now been stated that a 2ltr (I presume) EVO with 340bhp can get past 170mph, which is something I didnt think was possible. But as always, I am as all knowing as the next man.... not! :D

Regards,
Shaun.

STEVECHAPS 26 September 2005 07:49 PM

Surely having a ruddy great air brake on the front disguised as a bonnet scoop will have summat to do with it?;)

Gutmann pug 26 September 2005 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by webmaster
Guys..... this original question was not about the speedo's (or perhaps it was lol) or certainly what car is better than the other..... but the more interesting part is that it has now been stated that a 2ltr (I presume) EVO with 340bhp can get past 170mph, which is something I didnt think was possible. But as always, I am as all knowing as the next man.... not! :D

Regards,
Shaun.

agreed

Gary

banny sti 26 September 2005 08:21 PM

A mates my00 wrx, has had 173mph on the speedo with about 750 rpms left to the limiter and it was still pulling. only mods were a centre section, backbox and an induction kit.

Danny B 26 September 2005 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by webmaster
Guys..... this original question was not about the speedo's (or perhaps it was lol) or certainly what car is better than the other..... but the more interesting part is that it has now been stated that a 2ltr (I presume) EVO with 340bhp can get past 170mph, which is something I didnt think was possible. But as always, I am as all knowing as the next man.... not! :D

Regards,
Shaun.

http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...threadid=66740

that's the proof..

Danny B 26 September 2005 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by banny sti
A mates my00 wrx, has had 173mph on the speedo with about 750 rpms left to the limiter and it was still pulling. only mods were a centre section, backbox and an induction kit.

Take it from me, his speedo was wrong.

Varboy 26 September 2005 08:30 PM

if it wasn't for the crappy service interval.........

timmyajmy93wrx 26 September 2005 08:30 PM

sorry..... edited your post instead of replying! :(


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