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The Zohan 16 August 2005 11:21 AM

Are they mad Winston Silcott to be a counsellor for kids!
 
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...413398,00.html

Convicted killer to mentor children!

What an insult, would you let your children go to a summer camp with this piece of garbage as a mentor?

Mentoring in life choices.

What an insult to the families of the man he killed and to PC Blakelocks widow as well, Silcott got of on a technicality!

This will damage the Met's standing IMHO and after the good work with the London Bombings.

More PC rubbish!

David Lock 16 August 2005 11:36 AM

Completely barking.....

PCatWork 16 August 2005 11:39 AM

iirc his conviction for Blakelock's murder was overturned, so we have to assume that he didn't do it. Tbh I think that the kind of kids who are likely to get involved in serious crime are more likely to listen to Silcott than some do gooder missle class white fellow. Although I do seem to remember, at the time of his original trial, he was said to have a mental age in single figures...

unclebuck 16 August 2005 11:55 AM

Policitical Correctness gone mad, I tell you!!

I blame Blair!!

;)

Poor Guy 16 August 2005 12:20 PM

Its all blairs fault

Leslie 16 August 2005 02:33 PM

Its the PC lentil eating nutcrunching Roman sandal wearers demonstrating their power to us all again. Wonder when they will actually manage to do something for the general good of the country!

Les :(

BlackadderII 16 August 2005 03:05 PM


Silcott got of on a technicality!
I agree with all the comments above, it's a sorry state of affairs if he's the *best* person the council could find to do such an important job :(

Paul, i'm sorry but i think the appeal court completely quashed the conviction, so much so that the Judge apologised for the injustice and awarded £50,000 settlement for the time he'd already served. I was (at the time) led to believe that there was no technicality and that it was a case of "the wrong man" but i stand to be corrected.

Why though a convicted murderer who DID play a part in the riots is allowed to "teach" these youngsters is beyond me. Surely with all the money, time and effort spent on Psychology Degrees etc etc Why isn't there anyone else better qualified to run this set up with the odd "guest speaker" to offer life at the sharp end experiences.

:(

So murdering people does bring its rewards then :(

Reality 16 August 2005 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Leslie
Its the PC lentil eating nutcrunching Roman sandal wearers demonstrating their power to us all again. Wonder when they will actually manage to do something for the general good of the country!

Les :(

Hi Les,

Tony Blair's much older than me - does that make him wiser ;).

Actually Silcott is Older than me too.

Surrounded by all these wise old heads.

No wonder the Country's screwd - too many middle aged dickheads running the place ;).

At what point to Older People start to become wiser and worthy of automatic respect ?

jods 16 August 2005 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by BlackadderII
I agree with all the comments above, it's a sorry state of affairs if he's the *best* person the council could find to do such an important job :(

Paul, i'm sorry but i think the appeal court completely quashed the conviction, so much so that the Judge apologised for the injustice and awarded £50,000 settlement for the time he'd already served. I was (at the time) led to believe that there was no technicality and that it was a case of "the wrong man" but i stand to be corrected.

Why though a convicted murderer who DID play a part in the riots is allowed to "teach" these youngsters is beyond me. Surely with all the money, time and effort spent on Psychology Degrees etc etc Why isn't there anyone else better qualified to run this set up with the odd "guest speaker" to offer life at the sharp end experiences.

:(

So murdering people does bring its rewards then :(

Carefull - If you hurt his feelings you'll have to pay him some compensation

Chip 16 August 2005 04:41 PM

A counsellor for kids???

With a face like like that he'll scare the sh!t out of them.

Chip

Chip 16 August 2005 04:44 PM

Don't forget as well that he served 18 years for the murder of gangster Tony Smith for which he had been on bail for at the time of the Blakelock murder.

Bail for murder. That's madness in itself isn't it?

Chip

_Meridian_ 16 August 2005 06:06 PM

Yea - letting a black man out on bail when charged with murder is obviously wrong. Only middle-class whites like Harold Shipman and Sion Jenkins should be out on bail when charged with murder.


But the simple question is: will it work? If he can stop young kids offending then let him get on with it. Unlike most of the people here at least he knows what prison is like and why kids should avoid it. It's not like he's the first ex-con to go out and teach kids how to stay out of trouble. And if his original defence of self-defence is accurate (various quotes describe the victim as a "gangster" and a boxer) then most of you here should be in favour surely? Or does self-defence only count for middle-class people defending their semi and its contents?

As for the: "He got off on a technicality", what do you know that the court doesn't? It doesn't matter how he got off, he is now officially innocent of that crime. Are you suggesting that anyone accused of a crime should simply be convicted? Or is only a "technicality" if it lets off someone you don't like? Funny how the people who suggest pipepoo.com to help them get off speeding tickets don't consider that "getting off on a technicality".

M

Chip 16 August 2005 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by _Meridian_
Yea - letting a black man out on bail when charged with murder is obviously wrong. Only middle-class whites like Harold Shipman and Sion Jenkins should be out on bail when charged with murder.



M

I didnt refer in any way that he was let out on bail because he was black.
Why did you?

Chip

The Zohan 16 August 2005 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by _Meridian_
Yea - letting a black man out on bail when charged with murder is obviously wrong. Only middle-class whites like Harold Shipman and Sion Jenkins should be out on bail when charged with murder.


But the simple question is: will it work? If he can stop young kids offending then let him get on with it. Unlike most of the people here at least he knows what prison is like and why kids should avoid it. It's not like he's the first ex-con to go out and teach kids how to stay out of trouble. And if his original defence of self-defence is accurate (various quotes describe the victim as a "gangster" and a boxer) then most of you here should be in favour surely? Or does self-defence only count for middle-class people defending their semi and its contents?

As for the: "He got off on a technicality", what do you know that the court doesn't? It doesn't matter how he got off, he is now officially innocent of that crime. Are you suggesting that anyone accused of a crime should simply be convicted? Or is only a "technicality" if it lets off someone you don't like? Funny how the people who suggest pipepoo.com to help them get off speeding tickets don't consider that "getting off on a technicality".

M

I, like a lot of people do not care what colour Silcott is, he murdered someone!
He was convicted of murdering someone - not self defence or manslaughter!

IMHO It is not a 'black' thing or a middle class thing and do not try to make it so!

God knows how a convicted murderer got past the CRB test - well i imagine rubber stamped by some leftie guardian reading chattering class Gucci Socialist PC tosspot. Otherwise HOW????

Really, would you trust your childeren with this man?

He is not a role model or someone i would want my kids to meet or listen to.
There must be better ways than this.

Chip 17 August 2005 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Paul Habgood


He is not a role model or someone i would want my kids to meet or listen to.
There must be better ways than this.

There are better ways but they wouldnt be PC enough these days would they.

Chip

David Lock 17 August 2005 11:38 AM

My choice for role model for the tough black kids would be Lennox Lewis.

CrisPDuk 17 August 2005 11:50 AM

You can't beat mob justice can you:rolleyes:

On the one hand, the media whip up a storm of protest because Winston Sillcott, a man we would never have heard of btw, if he hadn't been wrongfully convicted of the murder of a policeman, is attempting to prevent youngsters from ending up on the same path as he did.

Yet those same guardians of the public morals were over the moon when Leslie Grantham (another convicted murderer, lest we forget), was enticed back into a Prme Time television show:confused:


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