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thebothy 23 July 2005 07:47 PM

brake judder
 
when braking from high speeds i get big brake judder the steering wheel shakes like anything ,any ideas?

richee 23 July 2005 08:05 PM

sounds like your discs have warped get some new ones same thing happend to me on my old car .

sKunk 23 July 2005 08:06 PM

Yeah, warped front disks. Time for new ones.

richee 23 July 2005 08:09 PM

i was told u can still drive it like that no danger. just a pain in the ass to drive

thebothy 23 July 2005 08:13 PM

???
 
discs are 32mm vented 355mm ap ones only done about 800 miles on them this judder has got worse over last few weeks could any thing be loose on the front

richee 23 July 2005 08:20 PM

get it looked at mate just to be safe but can happen. just by going over a pot hole dont matter how old they are dont take my word tho last thing i want is to here u crashed :)

DevilHimSelf 23 July 2005 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by thebothy
discs are 32mm vented 355mm ap ones only done about 800 miles on them this judder has got worse over last few weeks could any thing be loose on the front


I would get the pads looked at first before getting new disc's, also 800 miles, is this since new. If so and its under a year you would have warranty.

Now before yahs all go off half cocked, i had the same prob's with my new 6 pots from new. After a couple hundred miles, and i had thought they had been bedded in, i got the same judder, and i also got the same reply its your disc's, but on checking it was NOT the disc's but the pads had worn unevenly. Got back onto supplier and a replacement set of pads sent, Brake judder gone.

So first get the disc's checked, then get the pads checked.

Did u get braided hoses for the brakes?

Anyway my few pennys worth!

thebothy 23 July 2005 08:49 PM

yeah mate got braded with them,will pull it apart tommorrow and check everything over,,

s70rjw 23 July 2005 09:11 PM

Check that the hub is free from debris and refit your discs

RON 23 July 2005 10:52 PM

Seeing as they are prettymuch the best brakes/discs you can get, i seriously doubt they're warped.... more than likely pad deposits due to too much light use.... once you've checked that everything's in order, try doing some high speed stopps one after the other.... that may get rid of any deposits.....

Good luck!

MaDaSS 24 July 2005 12:12 AM

I would say that sounds like pad deposits to me. Been there myself.
Those kinda brakes are made to be used hard and then off them, none of this slow stopping and light pedal work with brakes like that. The only way is like Ron suggests.
Get somewhere straight and safe and get some heavy braking done from fast speeds.
But dont brake to standstill. And if you do use them hard anyway, dont ever sit with your foot on the brake pedal after a heavy brake. This is what also causes the pad deposits. As TSL said to me about my StopTech kit, on and off! No pussy footing about :D

TonyBurns 24 July 2005 09:10 AM

How did you bed your disc/pads in? did you take it easy for the first couple of hundred miles or did you just give it some stick? ;)
Also, when at lights/stopped, do you keep your foot on the brake?
Really to see if you have warped the brakes, your driving style has to be understood, if you sit on your brakes at lights etc, all your doing is putting heat into the discs, especially if you have been doing some spirited driving ;) which isnt uncommon on scoobs :D
Also the bedding in procedure, if you didnt do it correctly, it takes much longer to bed the pads and brakes in, plus you have the chance to glaze over your pads which means that they feel a bit wooden and not as much bite as they should have, but most of the time, if you have warped your discs, its down to incorrect running in/foot on brake after fast driving.

Tony:D

thebothy 24 July 2005 09:30 AM

bedded in brakes for about 400 miles then did some semi high speeds with brakeing over next 200 miles ,not to a stand still ,and dont put brakes on at lights,dont even put handbrake on for half hour when i get home from a run..

TonyBurns 24 July 2005 11:18 AM

These grooved discs btw??

Tony:D

Johnhowell 24 July 2005 11:27 AM

Brake judder
 

Originally Posted by thebothy
when braking from high speeds i get big brake judder the steering wheel shakes like anything ,any ideas?

Have the balancing checked on the front wheels. During braking, the shift of mass to the front will exaggerate any out of balance.

John

thebothy 24 July 2005 11:51 AM

brake judder
 
front wheels were finger tight :0 when the 6 pots went on only had 1mm between wheel and caliper so put on some spacers of 3 mm these are a bit soft i think will have some hard ones made up was worried about wheel flex on corners and wheel touching the caliper have torqued them to ft (fcuking tight ) now everything is ok but will have wheels re balanced just as precaution..thanks for all advise guys great way of knowing alot about the scoob with all the knowledge on here long live scoobynet

Buckrogers 24 July 2005 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by DevilHimSelf
but on checking it was NOT the disc's but the pads had worn unevenly. Got back onto supplier and a replacement set of pads sent, Brake judder gone.

These pads, fitted new when the AP kit was installed?

TIA

Buck

Buckrogers 24 July 2005 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by thebothy
yeah mate got braded with them,will pull it apart tommorrow and check everything over,,

Did you fit these discs yourself in the first place?
If so, did you use a "dial out gauge" as per instructions?


Buck

DevilHimSelf 24 July 2005 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by Buckrogers
These pads, fitted new when the AP kit was installed?

TIA

Buck


yup,

The pads were not cut properly, were replaced and the new pads fit like a glove, and judder was gone. Then bedded them in like above, and no problems since.
Have over 4k on now and they feel so much better.

sKunk 24 July 2005 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by thebothy
front wheels were finger tight :0

scary

Buckrogers 25 July 2005 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by DevilHimSelf
yup,

The pads were not cut properly, were replaced and the new pads fit like a glove, and judder was gone. Then bedded them in like above, and no problems since.
Have over 4k on now and they feel so much better.

What make pads?


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