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Regacy 13 July 2005 09:37 AM

Do you believe in anything strongly enough to die for it?
 
In the light of the news that last weeks explosions look like they were suicide bombings I’m at a loss to understand what drives someone to believe so passionately in something that they are prepared to give their own life for the cause.

So is there anything you think is worth dieing for?

davegtt 13 July 2005 09:39 AM

Asked me 5 years ago I would have been tempted to say our country but nar, I think Id let England/Britain get run over whilst I flee to somewhere a little better ;)

only thing worth dying for now would be family Id say...

davegtt 13 July 2005 09:39 AM

btw, your poll should be multi choice. what if Id die for the partner and children?

hawkthescoobslayer 13 July 2005 09:44 AM

Partner & children ,

let me tell you I nearly died for both once and i'd do it again:thumb:

everyday I see them I think how lucky I am to have them and am so glad I acted the way I did.



Hawk

eClaire 13 July 2005 09:47 AM

With Dave on this one, although maybe not as long as 5 years ago :D However, I did start feeling a bit patriotic/righteous while watching Braveheart last night :)

I can't pick both my husband or my child (not even born yet but I would!) on this poll, (I would like to) so I will choose my children.

ian_sadler 13 July 2005 10:23 AM

Family

davyboy 13 July 2005 10:35 AM

If were were brainwashed enough to think that when you die you would have 100 virgins waiting for you....you might just do it ;)

moses 13 July 2005 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by davyboy
If were were brainwashed enough to think that when you die you would have 100 virgins waiting for you....you might just do it ;)


davyboy let me get one thing straight

100 or 72 virgins r the last thing on suicide bombers mind

its all bullsh1t it is the least thing when u get martyred and its something thats been promoted by the ENEMY OF ISLAM in the media etc coz the whiteman only thinks with his dick, so its all sex to him and 72 virgins so they promote anti islamic and orientalist crap

yes u are promised those virgins its not a reward for going to war, its something good muslims will get

and it doesnt mention in the quran about 72 virgins it says spouses never been touched before, and its not even sexual , more spiritual

and its not for suicide bombers , its for martyrs who defend their land against injustice and their people and not killing innocents intentionally, and its for any good muslim not for martyrs alone

so get your facts right

Dream Weaver 13 July 2005 10:49 AM

Anyone stupid enough to think they go elsewhere when they die deserves what they get.

I would die for my close family, partner, future children and close friends.

TelBoy 13 July 2005 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by moses
, and its for any good muslim

Wait a minute. So you're saying that the suicide bombers were good Muslims?

moses 13 July 2005 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by TelBoy
Wait a minute. So you're saying that the suicide bombers were good Muslims?


again telboy as usual bull****ting and twisting my words, im talking about any good muslim who does righteous stuff and not for martyrs, wives r their for them

so u dont need to go and bomb yourself which is b-o-l-l-o-c-k-s, unless its killing oppressors and invaders and occupiers


its something promoted by the orientalists
see media is controlled by the dick brain and thats all it matters

TelBoy 13 July 2005 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by moses
whiteman only thinks with his dick


And the alternative is to repress women to the point where they effectively cease to exist except as child bearers and domestic skivvies?

Moses i'll argue this all day with you as you know. What bothers me is that you show not one IOTA of understanding towards the Western frustration about your lifestyle. You never have, you never will.

hawkthescoobslayer 13 July 2005 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by moses
so u dont need to go and bomb yourself which is b-o-l-l-o-c-k-s, unless its killing oppressors and invaders and occupiers

i think you should choose your words more carefully, as some people make take them as extreme like they did mine IMHO

Jap2Scrap 13 July 2005 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by moses
.......in the media etc coz the whiteman only thinks with his dick, so its all sex to him and 72 virgins so they promote anti islamic and orientalist crap

In the light of other threads being deleted, I can't believe the racism that moses is allowed to get away with posting.

I would personally martyr you if you spoke to me like that in the street moses.

TelBoy 13 July 2005 11:02 AM

But moses is a "Scot" - that absolves him of any possible criticism, obviously....

lightning101 13 July 2005 11:03 AM

He doesn't ****ing represent me or anyone I know. :mad:

TelBoy 13 July 2005 11:05 AM

But he IS the voice for a significant minority in this country, however we wish to dress it up and pretend otherwise. Very, very sad.

Regacy 13 July 2005 11:06 AM

Please don't get this thread deleted, I'm genuinely interested in views.
If you continue in this vein we won't find anything out we didn't already know!
Please
thanks
R

angrynorth 13 July 2005 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by moses
see media is controlled by the dick brain and thats all it matters

Moses, the media on both sides of the argument are full of inaccuracies and propaganda. It's not just the western media that is promoting its own ideals and agendas.

Open your eyes a bit more mate. :)

moses 13 July 2005 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
In the light of other threads being deleted, I can't believe the racism that moses is allowed to get away with posting.

I would personally martyr you if you spoke to me like that in the street moses.


before i go, trust me keyboard warrior

u wouldnt even get a chance amen and i promise

i aint a keyboard warrior or a hardman but humble and only humble

u wouldnt dare , u will be parted your head from your body if u tried

Jap2Scrap 13 July 2005 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by moses
before i go, trust me keyboard warrior

u wouldnt even get a chance amen and i promise

i aint a keyboard warrior or a hardman but humble and only humble

u wouldnt dare , u will be parted your head from your body if u tried

:lol1:

Preferred method of enlightenment is it moses?

hawkthescoobslayer 13 July 2005 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by moses
before i go, trust me keyboard warrior

u wouldnt even get a chance amen and i promise

i aint a keyboard warrior or a hardman but humble and only humble

u wouldnt dare , u will be parted your head from your body if u tried

O M G i really really don't believe you just posted that....... you are ..... words fail me.

TelBoy 13 July 2005 11:17 AM

Mate, i've seen it for four years and more. Same old ****e. Unreasonable and capricious.

moses 13 July 2005 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by hawkthescoobslayer
O M G i really really don't believe you just posted that....... you are ..... words fail me.


maybe u didnt see what he said to me first, he threatened me so he got it back

above proves u hardly get justice, white people stick with white people and dont bother reading what his fellow white guy said first

hawkthescoobslayer 13 July 2005 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by moses
maybe u didnt see what he said to me first, he threatened me so he got it back

above proves u hardly get justice, white people stick with white people and dont bother reading what his fellow white guy said first

no I took what he said with a pinch of salt and as a joke what you said and the WAY you said it concerns me.


just like calling me an enemy of yours?? you don't even know me?

angrynorth 13 July 2005 11:27 AM

Moses, I couldn't care whether you or anyone on this board are bright green. You have to admit - saying you would separate his head from his body is a little over the top.

I think that its mainly because British/Western culture sees that beheading someone is a medieval practice, something that belongs in the dark ages. The western world already has the idea that Islam is a religion with outdated beliefs and statements like yours just perpetuate it.

If you had just said you would beat the crap out of him, it probably wouldn't have had such a strong reaction and it wouldn't seem like "the white guys" were ganging up on you. Do you see what I am saying?

jasey 13 July 2005 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by angrynorth
Moses, I couldn't care whether you or anyone on this board are bright green. You have to admit - saying you would separate his head from his body is a little over the top.

I think that its mainly because British/Western culture sees that beheading someone is a medieval practice, something that belongs in the dark ages. The western world already has the idea that Islam is a religion with outdated beliefs and statements like yours just perpetuate it.

If you had just said you would beat the crap out of him, it probably wouldn't have had such a strong reaction and it wouldn't seem like "the white guys" were ganging up on you. Do you see what I am saying?

He threatened to Kill Moses if he met him !

moses 13 July 2005 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by angrynorth
Moses, I couldn't care whether you or anyone on this board are bright green. You have to admit - saying you would separate his head from his body is a little over the top.

I think that its mainly because British/Western culture sees that beheading someone is a medieval practice, something that belongs in the dark ages. The western world already has the idea that Islam is a religion with outdated beliefs and statements like yours just perpetuate it.

If you had just said you would beat the crap out of him, it probably wouldn't have had such a strong reaction and it wouldn't seem like "the white guys" were ganging up on you. Do you see what I am saying?


mate he said he will martyr me on the street

thats killing :D probably brutal and beating up with his mates and knifing me behind my back coz he wont be able to take me on :D God willing

i was too kind and merciful, if he even tried it, i will let him die with honour and peace and no lynching and beating up . just a quick cut he wont even feel it, its the samurai way , to die peacefully that way and feel no pain

see im a kind chap mate :) i wont make him suffer if he did try to kill me, a man has to defend himself wont u , i got a kid to feed :D

moses 13 July 2005 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by jasey
He threatened to Kill Moses if he met him !


God bless u jasey i thank u alot :) xxxxx im glad someone gave me justice, God bless u and keep u safe and happy and your family

hawkthescoobslayer 13 July 2005 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by jasey
He threatened to Kill Moses if he met him !

no he threatend to make him a martyr??? there are many ways of becoming a martyr .


threatening to behead someone, only brings images of sick fcuks killing innocent people in iraq.. not a good image .


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