E36 M3 vs VR6 vs classic sti
 

outcome? all standard of course, what do you think would win? i have a feeling an M3 would be the victor, but messin around with a VR6 once i realised that they are seriously quick. Never had a opportunity to race a classic - but reckon they could hold theyre own up to about 3rd... anyone?

M3 then sti then vr6 last

i think it would be extremely close... bottom end sti top end m3

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my mate has got a L reg VR6 and other mate has a skoda VRS, the other night they had a bit of fun and to 70 mph the VR6 couldn't live with the skoda

lol - skoda - yes i know its a vw too but skoooda. theyre from diffrnt eras tho....

I've owned a Corrado Vr6, and would have to admit that it would finish last in that particular race! Beautiful car and does pull well but aint a match for an sti or a similar engined bmw with at least 90 bhp more (depending on whether an Evo or not).

Believeable that the vrs would beat it to 70, but in all fairness the Corrado should edge ahead after that. Interestingly, the Corrado appears to be as fast as the golf r32...not surprising I suppose if 4wd losses are factored in.

Nev

Also recently owned a Corrado VR6, and still had it when I bought my MY00 classic UK turbo. Corrado made the turbo feel slow, but in all fairness I doubt it'd live with any of the above listed, apart from the Skoda, flat out. It felt very quick on the road though.

Have you got nothing better to occupy your mind?

quarter mile? sti all day long!!

classic sti iv- 0-100 -12.3
30-70-4.8
bmw m3 - 0-100-13.1
30-70-4.7
vw golf vr6 -0-100-18.7
30-70-6.4
figures obtained from motoring mag. figures for corrado vr6 for comparison are: 0-100 -17.7
30-70-5.9
uk classic impreza 0-100-15.6
30-70-5.6

Dont forget the Corrado VR6 was quicker than the Golf VR6 as it was 2.9 litres versus the Golfs 2.8, think there was about 15/20 bhp difference in it, 170 ish for the Golf and around 190 for the Corrado.

Corrado (evo stats)
0-60 - 6.2
0-100 - 15.9 (iirc)
30-70 - 5.7

My mate had a 260bhp scoob and above 90mph up to 140 (can't remember if it was on my private road or when we were on a Autobahn in Germany I think ;)) there was nothing in it at all, maybe the Corrado was a tiny bit faster as I was creeping up on him. Mind you, at those speeds, power isn't so much the issue as aerodynamics. Up to 80/90 I couldn't keep up obviously but it wasn't miles behind by any stretch of the imagination.

M3 Evo or normal one?

the normal 3 litre one. the evo is a piece of art. isnt the corrado heavier tho?

I would think an STi would be as quick as a non Evo. Upto 100 for sure imo.

.......it's not just about that though is it!! ;)

My old VR6 Golf (putting out 235bhp - and good for 160mph) would outrun most Classic turbos - but not an STi .... :D

STi has 200 kg advantage and makes similar levels of power to the M3 3.0

verus
 

I used to own a amd chipped 16v cupra sport putting out 175bhp. At gti international a couple of years ago i raced a vr6 golf up the quarter mile. I was quicker to 60 and had a overall quicker 1/4 mile. My cupra is no where near my classic sti.

i dont really rate the big fat vr6.not really a performance car in my book.m3 and sti are in a different league!

Er, big fat VR6? At 1260 kg? Check the weight compared to an STI, and have a go at someone in a Corrado VR6 that knows how to drive one, on roads you both know. Corrado is possibly the best handling front wheel drive car ever built, with less understeer than the Scoob. Much more helpful car on the limit.

Sorry i should have been a bit clearer there.I think the golf VR6 looks like a big fatty.Didnt realise the corrado was that light,makes it even harder to explain why ones never came close to beating me ,PMSL.In all honesty i have heard lots of good things about the corrado but personally i think they are a little slow.

Which model Scoob d'you have?

None.

I had a 96 Golf VR6, no air con, but the car on our companys weighbridge (calibrated every month) it came in at 1180KG!

I could not believe it, but the VR6 was in its element above 100MPH.

Scott

they can still stand their own ground tho...! (VR6)

my mate had a m3 evo was great if the road was like a milk pond but if it was a bit bumpy it was crap along a particular rd we visit 120 m3 140 sti version 2 on the flat roads no difference twisties sti by a mile as for the vr6 the sound awesome but not even in the same league in my opinion

Having owned two of the three (VR6 and M3) i think i can comment. The simple fact is the VW would'nt live with the M3 at all but it was a fantastic car IMO. I bought it as a inbetweener and nearly ended up keeping it. As has been said possible the greastest handling fwd car barring the Integra type R

Fairly significant difference IMHO between Golf and Corrado VR6's. The Golf VR6 I've driven was really not that quick, handling wasn't over-impressive either, although it could have been getting a little tired by then. I'd have much more repsect for the Corrado, though.

P.S. Not saying the Golf is bad - it's quite decent for what it is - just that it isn't very close to STi/M3 for performance.