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acf8181 23 January 2005 12:43 PM
calling experienced drivers - scooby balance
 
hello, just trying to gather information before i purchase a scooby...

i've heard from lots of people that they have a lot of understeer, is this true? as understeer is the devil!

most likely i'll either be getting a late classic, or a bugeye...base turbo UK model of both (tho i believe the base model is called the WRX in the bugeyes?).

what are the differences between the two, balance wise?

i know if it understeers you can provoke it with a bit of mid corner lift, but i don't really like to drive that way.

is there any cost effective way of modifying the car to be more neutral (i'm guessing oversteer is too much to ask really), without fitting a susp kit (want to keep the ride quality)?

s0452633 23 January 2005 07:11 PM
Hey there.

Nice to see you expanding your forums from Porka and CGTi then!

Can't comment on the dynamics as I've never driven one fast except in a straight line, and that was a very early classic, but the base model turbo bugeye is indeed called the WRX.

I think many people would recommend a decent geometry set up with regard to handling as a good mod to start with.

HTH!

wheelie_sti 23 January 2005 08:19 PM
Powerstation
 
Originally Posted by acf8181
is there any cost effective way of modifying the car to be more neutral (i'm guessing oversteer is too much to ask really), without fitting a susp kit (want to keep the ride quality)?
"Powerstation", are a company that do rather a stunning geometry setup that will dial out a lot of the understeer. Personally the understeer got on my tits something cruel and I altered the way I took corners that visibility was excellent through! Rally drivers flick should sort it mate :) although it does take some doing and rather large testicles.

wheelie_sti
BTW - Don't tend to suffer with it much since I got the FQ330!

acf8181 23 January 2005 10:07 PM
any links wheelie_sti?

who would i know you as on the other forums S0452633?

wheelie_sti 23 January 2005 11:14 PM
Originally Posted by acf8181
any links wheelie_sti?

who would i know you as on the other forums S0452633?
wheelie on lancerregister.com :norty:

Powerstation - try here mate: http://www.powerstation.org.uk/index.asp

Good lads by all accounts.

Hope it helps matey

wheelie_sti

wheelie_sti 23 January 2005 11:15 PM
Originally Posted by acf8181
any links wheelie_sti?

who would i know you as on the other forums S0452633?
Check out the projects section on the site mate, it specifically mentions dialling out understeer on scoobies/

wheelie_sti

Dave uk blue mica 23 January 2005 11:38 PM
powerstation do a bumpsteer mod which totally changes the way a classic impreza drives on the road, get them to do the geometry set up and it'll then be a very good car

s0452633 23 January 2005 11:40 PM
Originally Posted by acf8181
any links wheelie_sti?

who would i know you as on the other forums S0452633?
You'd know me, but not as s0452633.

Lets see if you can guess :p

AvalancheS8 24 January 2005 08:11 AM
Geometry, bump steer fix and a Whiteline 22mm adjustable rear anti-roll bar will sort out a lot of the understeer.

acf8181 24 January 2005 04:07 PM
thanks for the link wheelie...another added to my favourites.

i'm guessing your username on the other forums is either robin or hayesey, S0452836545892?

wheelie_sti 24 January 2005 05:50 PM
Originally Posted by acf8181
thanks for the link wheelie...another added to my favourites.

i'm guessing your username on the other forums is either robin or hayesey, S0452836545892?
??? No dude, just "wheelie" pmsl

Pete:)

s0452633 24 January 2005 11:55 PM
Originally Posted by acf8181
thanks for the link wheelie...another added to my favourites.

i'm guessing your username on the other forums is either robin or hayesey, S0452836545892?
nope.

I did mention a subaru the other day in the "tell us a bit about yourself thread" on porka though!

acf8181 25 January 2005 12:24 AM
Originally Posted by s0452633
nope.

I did mention a subaru the other day in the "tell us a bit about yourself thread" on porka though!
so either krupa, nick101, or nelson then....i'm going for the latter? note i've updated my post on that thread now i've found out what i need to know.

s0452633 25 January 2005 09:09 PM
correct! s0452633 is my other self!

Sideways, the way forward 19 May 2005 10:39 AM
Originally Posted by acf8181
hello, just trying to gather information before i purchase a scooby...

i've heard from lots of people that they have a lot of understeer, is this true? as understeer is the devil!

most likely i'll either be getting a late classic, or a bugeye...base turbo UK model of both (tho i believe the base model is called the WRX in the bugeyes?).

what are the differences between the two, balance wise?

i know if it understeers you can provoke it with a bit of mid corner lift, but i don't really like to drive that way.

is there any cost effective way of modifying the car to be more neutral (i'm guessing oversteer is too much to ask really), without fitting a susp kit (want to keep the ride quality)?
Standard Uk impreza turbos do tend to have a turn-in that leaves little to be desired. It will understeer when pushing it hard into a corner. Usually they grip really well on the exit of corners...it just tends to be the turn-in that is a problem. If you have the money try looking at a different scoob...the new V8 sti has variable dif (no understeer there at all). Take a look at V5 type R's, they have the same and can be manually setup for no understeer but more oversteer (i believe it takes a while to get used to them). Try the P1... much better suspension setup, does not understeer anywhere nr as much as the standard uk turbs. Its all money...if ur seriuosly bothered about it and fancy something different..get an evo... they have a beautiful turn-in and monumental grip!!!

i think u'll find this prob with both the bugeye and the classic. go for a classic!!! they look so much better!!

Dunno about setups...maybe try some tein suspension and great tyres!!!

GrollySTI 19 May 2005 11:30 AM
Originally Posted by Sideways, the way forward
Standard Uk impreza turbos do tend to have a turn-in that leaves little to be desired. It will understeer when pushing it hard into a corner. Usually they grip really well on the exit of corners...it just tends to be the turn-in that is a problem. If you have the money try looking at a different scoob...the new V8 sti has variable dif (no understeer there at all). Take a look at V5 type R's, they have the same and can be manually setup for no understeer but more oversteer (i believe it takes a while to get used to them). Try the P1... much better suspension setup, does not understeer anywhere nr as much as the standard uk turbs. Its all money...if ur seriuosly bothered about it and fancy something different..get an evo... they have a beautiful turn-in and monumental grip!!!

i think u'll find this prob with both the bugeye and the classic. go for a classic!!! they look so much better!!

Dunno about setups...maybe try some tein suspension and great tyres!!!
Blimey........it's a 4 month old thread! - I hope they found some answers b4 now:)

Sideways, the way forward 22 May 2005 12:12 AM
Originally Posted by GrollySTI
Blimey........it's a 4 month old thread! - I hope they found some answers b4 now:)
****...very good point there grolly!! didn't even check that..ah well if he bought a bugeye he wont be happy with what i have said.


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