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Nick 17 December 2004 08:43 AM

Oxfordshire: blanket speedlimit reduction from NSL to 50mph!
 

Despite widespread opposition, we have learned that Oxfordshire County Council plan to go ahead with another sweeping round of unnecessary speed limit reductions on rural main roads. Plans had been put on hold after it was revealed that previous reductions from 60 to 50 have not been the success that was claimed.
http://www.abd.org.uk/local/oxfordshire.htm

This will happen in YOUR county next!! Now is the time to do something about this before it's too late!

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Nick

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richardg 17 December 2004 09:52 AM

there was talk of a similar county-wide "national speed limit" reduction in the essex chronicle last year. as far as i am aware nothing further has happened. i think if more than about 10-15% of the people on the roads knew what the white circle with the black diaginal line meant, then there'd be less road rage, smoother movement of traffic...etc

hutton_d 17 December 2004 10:08 AM

The thing is richardq, it's not about road rage or smoother movement of traffic. It's all about power and control by our politicians/civil servants. They want to get everyone out of their cars and onto PT. If they can't do that they're making life as difficult as possible for those that still want/need to use their own transport.

Dave

alcazar 17 December 2004 11:38 AM


If they can't do that they're making life as difficult as possible for those that still want/need to use their own transport.
Or making money out of 'em :mad:

Alcazar

speedking 17 December 2004 01:35 PM

Will cost a fortune in signs. How will that be recovered I wonder :eek:

Surely they can't just put notices up at the borders with adjacent counties saying "While in Oxfrogshire do not exceed 50mph".

Will it apply to the M40 as well?

Can't see it happening on a local level.

johnfelstead 17 December 2004 02:21 PM

drive through derbyshire and you will see what a mess this kind of policy makes of the roads, what used to be National speed limit is now 40 or 50 for absolutely no reason. The signs and painted road areas are everywhere, must have cost a mint to put that lot up.

New_scooby_04 17 December 2004 02:57 PM

Hutton D Believe me, the government don't want people out of their cars: they make way too much out of motorists in tax!!

As for public transport, well that would be significantly better if they'd actually spend some of the revenue raised from motorists on that rather than on pointless interference such as that outlined in the initial post!

Best.

OllyK 17 December 2004 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by johnfelstead
drive through derbyshire and you will see what a mess this kind of policy makes of the roads, what used to be National speed limit is now 40 or 50 for absolutely no reason. The signs and painted road areas are everywhere, must have cost a mint to put that lot up.


Tell me about it, I am just about to move house to Derbyshire, will be 8 miles from work to home and there are some 9+ speed cameras along the route. If you know Ilkeston / Shipley / Heanor going past the American Adventure, you'll know what I mean

Petem95 17 December 2004 06:12 PM

Complete joke - of course its all about road safety and has nothing to do with the fact that revenue vans will make more money when the limits have been lowered further :Whatever_

Thing is they'll get away with it as everyone will just moan, but take no action. Anyone up for organising a riot? We could find the headquaters of the revenue camera partnership and burn it down for starters ;)

skiddus_markus 17 December 2004 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by OllyK
Tell me about it, I am just about to move house to Derbyshire, will be 8 miles from work to home and there are some 9+ speed cameras along the route. If you know Ilkeston / Shipley / Heanor going past the American Adventure, you'll know what I mean


I used to work in that area and there are quite a few.I've seen police hiding at the bottom of the hill from Tescos (near the school) in Heanor too .I spun around used it to test my radar detector:D.
If you think there are a lot of cameras there you should drive the stretch from J31 of the M1 into Chesterfield.There are 7 cameras on approximately 5 miles of road.

Adrian F 18 December 2004 12:54 AM

Funny how a riot got rid of the Poll Tax when all the compliants and whinging didnt. wonder if there is a lesson for us all?

Lum 18 December 2004 01:00 AM

At the moment, most major single carriageway routes are 50mph already, it's stupid.
All the crappy little single track farm roads are 60, however, but these dont go anywhere useful.
And then there's that stretch that used to be 60, but the road has gone a bit bumpy so they dropped it to 30.
I hate that county.

johnfelstead 18 December 2004 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Adrian F
Funny how a riot got rid of the Poll Tax when all the compliants and whinging didnt. wonder if there is a lesson for us all?

Dont kid yourself. The Riot's didnt stop the poll tax, people who refused to pay is what killed it. It became economically unviable and clogged up the courts.

Now if everyone who got a NIP took the option for court action or insisted on photo evidence instead of paying the fine, things might change, but they wont, they will take the £60 hit rather than risk a £1000 hit.

GC8 18 December 2004 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by johnfelstead
drive through derbyshire and you will see what a mess this kind of policy makes of the roads, what used to be National speed limit is now 40 or 50 for absolutely no reason. The signs and painted road areas are everywhere, must have cost a mint to put that lot up.

Are you referring to the A6; principally between Ambergate and Matlock Bath John? This was originally touted as an aide to motorcycle safety but ti seems to be spreading...

Simon

LG John 18 December 2004 02:08 PM

Joke! Limits should be going up :rolleyes:

Saw a new clarkson DVD the other day and he was driving some fancy merc with meat brakes. He said it stopped from 120mph in less distance than the highway codes stop from 60mph! Will they update the stopping distances?? :rolleyes:

Petem95 18 December 2004 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by saxo boi
Saw a new clarkson DVD the other day

Clarkson make rake in a mint from all his motoring DVD/Vid's - there seems to be one released every Christmas, and its the same formula everytime - lots of tasty high-performance cars being thrashed around - and a few clips of caravans being blown up. Still got to admit theyre entertaining!

LG John 18 December 2004 02:36 PM

You know on reading my post again I have an image of a highway code book driving along at 60mph then braking :D;)

johnfelstead 19 December 2004 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by GC8
Are you referring to the A6; principally between Ambergate and Matlock Bath John? This was originally touted as an aide to motorcycle safety but ti seems to be spreading...

Simon

That road is particularly bad, but the rest of derbyshire is going that way, roads that used to be enjoyable to drive are just a nightmare with constant changes in speed limit and no overtaking zones for no aparant reason. Roads that used to be NSL are now 40MPH. The road surface is also constantly changing grip level where they randomly paint speed signs on the road or put extra grippy tarmac down on some corners but not others. Driving there is far more tiring than it used to be, you spend less time looking for what you should be when you drive a car and more time dealing with artificial crap.

GC8 19 December 2004 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by johnfelstead
That road is particularly bad, but the rest of derbyshire is going that way, roads that used to be enjoyable to drive are just a nightmare with constant changes in speed limit and no overtaking zones for no aparant reason. Roads that used to be NSL are now 40MPH. The road surface is also constantly changing grip level where they randomly paint speed signs on the road or put extra grippy tarmac down on some corners but not others. Driving there is far more tiring than it used to be, you spend less time looking for what you should be when you drive a car and more time dealing with artificial crap.

Derbyshire is getting quite a reputation; I live in Sheffield now but Ive just read on another post (by Hedgehog) that Derbyshire had more than twice as many court prosecutions for speeding as South Yorkshire in 2002.


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