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Jay m A 11 February 2004 10:00 PM

Yay for Caterfields and dry Sundays
 
After owning a westy for 2 weeks, on Sunday she got a proper outing. First impressions is that I've been driving turbo's for too long! Totally different sense of acceleration that I'm yet to get used to. Pickup is instant and relentless to the redline from any rpm - but I'm still waiting for the extra kick in the back @ 4000rpm - but it doesn't come!

But interestingly enough the other sensation that is a misconception on my part, is the impression that you're going slower than you think. Yep, I thought that being closer to the ground, open to elements etc would give a sensation of extra speed, but in reality peering over that long bonnet - the road you see dissappearing under the front is quite a distance away.

And of course the feedback this thing gives you is in a different class, I'm very lucky that I found a very well setup example.

The first things that are going are the seats, being replaced with lighter, tighter fitting examples (ala R500 substitute). Also those 15" wheels are going too, making way for 13" with Yoko A048R's. That little lot should shave 30kg off at least :D

http://server5.uploadit.org/files/ja...-Westy_osf.jpg

http://server5.uploadit.org/files/ja...-Westy_nsf.jpg



I know theres a few Caterfield owners lurking round here, lets see your cars :D

Justin

Fatman 11 February 2004 10:08 PM

Nice. Very nice.
 
Nice car, mate! :cool: Yes, I'm jealous. I'd love a Caterfield-type as a w/e toy. Maybe one day... </sigh>

What engine does it have?

Dracoro 11 February 2004 10:17 PM

Is it a new one or used?

If used, where did you find it? I'm looking for one (westy) at the mo and there's not many about. Want a 2.0L jobby (300bhp per tonne one! waheeeyyyy.)

I envy you at the mo, that looks a cracking car.

Fatman 11 February 2004 10:22 PM

I'm sure you know this, but there's always cars for sale on the Westfield Sports Car Club site (http://boardroom.wscc.co.uk/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi).

AndyC_772 11 February 2004 10:23 PM

Here's mine - currently my daily transport while the scooby has an engine rebuild:

http://www.cawte.nildram.co.uk/Westy6.jpg

Ahh.. those were the days - it was clean when that photo was taken :D

Vauxhall 2.0 XE engine, twin Weber 45's, Quaife ATB, major problems with cooling system. Anyone handy with a spanner and fancies a spin?

Jay m A 11 February 2004 10:26 PM

Cheers :)

Its a 2.0 litre Vaxhall XE running throttle bodies - 208bhp and I estimate 650kg.

As soon as I caught the trackday bug with the scoob I have always aspired to one of these. When circumstances meant the scoob was a weekend car (now got a cheap estate for the daily grind) I couldn't justify keeping it anymore when the westy is 3-4 times cheaper to run and even more of a drivers car :)

You may find running a Caterfield and another car for everyday stuff works out to be cheaper than running 1 Subaru. Insuance for the westy is £238 fully comp incl breakdown and legals - thats with 0 NCB (my full NCB is on my other car - £310 fully comp :D) for reference, insurance on the scoob for the same address - £723

Dracoro 11 February 2004 10:29 PM

Ooh, a yellow one, I want I want I want. :)

Fatman - yeah, I regularly check wscc (and post there too) but not much about. Oh well, eyes open an' all that, one day there'll be more.

Fatman 11 February 2004 10:29 PM

When you put it like that, the Caterfield starts to sound almost sensible! Especially when insurance on my (modded) Scoob is around £1300.

Jay m A 11 February 2004 10:37 PM

Aha, some recognisable user names also seen on WSCC :)

Yep, Dracoro bought it used and I had your budget. I had been looking for months on WSCC, findit, pistonheads, Blatchat and even auto trader.

This one was registered in 2000, 10.5k miles and I bought it for £10,250

Andy, I have a cooling problem too - it cools too well! It only gets to 70 C I'm leaving it be until the summer trackdays though - if it runs to a decent temp then I'll blank off half the rad in the winter.

AndyC_772 12 February 2004 07:39 AM

Hehe... mine was overcooled too when I bought it. Perhaps foolishly, I decided to fix it - and now it warms up nicely to 90 degrees and sits there. The only problem is that the coolant loss it's always suffered has now got a lot worse :( One weekend in the garage and a new radiator coming up...

It's definitely been an ownership 'experience'. When it works, it's a fantastic machine. There's nothing quite like blasting down a favourite B-road on a warm sunny day, feeling totally connected to the road and leaving everyone in your wake. On the other hand, I have spent rather longer than I anticipated fixing various problems - every one of these cars is different and they all have their own... characteristics :)

Jay: check your cooling circuit. Mine was built in such a way that the thermostat was permanently bypassed :eek:

Fatman: they are almost sensible. They have rock-solid residuals (especially if you buy one a few years old), they don't rust and parts are generally cheap and readily available. Buy on condition, not age or mileage, and look for build receipts and service history.

Scoob99 12 February 2004 09:48 AM

Jay........wicked car mate:D

Scoob99 12 February 2004 09:49 AM

Andy wicked paint work mate:D

Ian2wdsaffcos 12 February 2004 10:12 AM

Cool! I'm hankering after one of these one day once I've sold the Cossie for a 306TD & settled into my first home.

Just a question, you guys who have them, how big are you. I'm 6'3" & 17stone & worried I'll never fit in one :(

Scrappy2 12 February 2004 11:35 AM

ahh very very :cool:

If only I had a garage :sigh:

Paulo P 12 February 2004 11:57 AM

Andy

Where's the coolant leaking from? I will help you have a look at it if you like?

Paul :)

AndyC_772 12 February 2004 01:05 PM

*sigh* if only I knew. I'm hoping it's just the radiator, which is straight out of an old VW Polo and should be cheap to replace - I can get the nosecone off in about 15 minutes and will take a look on Saturday. My worry is that it's actually coming out of the tailpipe, having leaked within the engine.

That said, I'd have expected to find gunk in the oil if that were the case, and there's not even the slightest trace. I also know that the engine was stripped down and had a piston replaced just before I bought the car, so that should have meant a new head gasket. It's always lost a bit of coolant - it's just now that I've modified the system to heat up properly that the coolant loss problem has been exacerbated.

Paul: if you're free at the weekend and fancy lending me the benefit of your knowledge - which has to be better than mine! - then there's definitely beer in it for you. PM me if you're interested.

Scrappy2: You don't need a garage. Mine lived outdoors on the drive for a year wrapped up in a waterproof, breathable cover. Make sure you tie it down properly when it's windy, but it really wasn't a problem. The biggest annoyance was that the wing mirrors kept getting knocked :)

Paulo P 12 February 2004 01:15 PM

Andy

YHPM :D

Scrappy2 12 February 2004 02:25 PM


Scrappy2: You don't need a garage. Mine lived outdoors on the drive for a year wrapped up in a waterproof, breathable cover. Make sure you tie it down properly when it's windy, but it really wasn't a problem.
Oh jees - don't tempt me - Its the ONLY thing that's stopping me... So I take it the cover worked then? Car OK? No rusty bits?

Scrappy2

mj 12 February 2004 03:12 PM

Jay,

I might be interseted in those seats when you change them,drop me a mail if you prefer.

cheers,

mike.

Jay m A 12 February 2004 04:19 PM

MJ

They are only 4 months old! Previous owner fitted them then sold the car 4 months later. They are the Cobra Sevens, black Vinyl with slots for 4 point harnesses.

If you want I'll take some close-ups for you to show their condition, but they are blemish free. The seats I've ordered to replace them have a 4 week lead time, so they should be available mid-late March

WRT size, Ian the previous owner was 6'4" and well built (not fat) and he fitted in it fine. FYI its a SEiW (the W means wide bodied) which you'll probably need. Always try before you buy, all are different (WRT pedals, steering wheel size, seat widths etc) but generally all can be changed to suit.

darren f 12 February 2004 07:10 PM

Another Cater-field lurker here:).

There's a picture of my weekend toy at http://www.n-elmham.demon.co.uk/photos/finished_1.jpg.

Its a Caterham R300, built by my own fair hand (the long laborious story of which is at http://www.n-elmham.demon.co.uk.

Lovely cars Jay and Andy, I don't buy all this Caterham vs. Westfield mischief making and rivalry- in my eyes they are both out-and-out enthusiasts cars built for the same purpose- to be 100% bonkers fun machines. You either 'get it' or you don't with Cater-fields. Being able to catch and pass a TVR Cerbera and Ferrari F355 on one track day last year kinda convinced me:):) (....but I won't mention how quicker Radicals are though....!).

Oh and Andy, I think you'll a degree of 'fettling' is an essential part of the Cater-field experience. Both in Caterham and Westie communities, the 'unusual pool of fluid on the garge floor' scenario is a frequent occurrence. When it happens I hate the car and the hassle that comes with it, then I take it out and drive it and all is strangely forgiven.

AndyC_772 14 February 2004 06:11 PM


When it happens I hate the car and the hassle that comes with it, then I take it out and drive it and all is strangely forgiven.
When I take it out and drive it, I just discover some other problem. This morning the feckin' engine was only firing on 3 cylinders - I've no idea why, and it didn't get better. Many head scratching, spanner wielding hours ahead, methinks :(

catflap 14 February 2004 06:34 PM

Nice car :)

I have been down to the westfield factory today :) to get a new nose cone.


Fitted it it today, not long now till im ready to re-tax it (took a few months of to focus on my studies)

HEHEHE cant wait, see yall at the shows ;)

We should have a westfiled scoobynet meet ;) some time (scoobs welcome of course) :)

Dave T-S 14 February 2004 10:26 PM

I like Caterhams - especially the two I lunched in front of the pits at Goodwood last Saturday :D ;)

GaryC 18 February 2004 07:02 PM

mmmmmmm - Sunny Sundays....
 
Sunday was the first dry sunny sunday this year up in sunny Lancs - and accordingly my little baby (Westfield Blade) was out.

I had forgotten how much fun 330bhp/tonne, 12,500rpm red line, Sequential manual gearbox and an F1 exhaust note could be. Most fun I have with my trousers on....and frequently forget to breath....

These things are *real* performance. Porsches..PAH! M3s....PAH! pretty much anything on the road...... WE LAUGH AT YOU......

GF commented how everytime I come back from a blat in it, I'm hyper for an hour!!!!

....therefore you can imagine how goddamned gutted I am that I'm having to sell her due to D.I.V.O.R.C.E.....subsequent house sale......and loss of garage....:( If anyone hears of a happy home.....

mj 18 February 2004 08:30 PM

How much ?

GaryC 19 February 2004 08:47 AM

£9k - comes with receipts for £16k plus the guy who built it (a over meticulous precision engineer) spent 400 hours building it!!!!

April 2001 reg'd car

Spec..

Klicktronic Steering Wheel Gearshift
In car intercom system
Shift lights
Tillet Seats -with 4 point Willans Harnesses
Westfield Mechanical Reverse
LSD
Anti-roll bars
Carbon rear guard covers/mirrors/rear Lights
13" Minilites with 205 032Rs (2 brand new)
Uprated Rectifier
Uprated Clutch
GIVI Top Box plate and 2-helmet-Box
Aero-screen
Personalised reg. 'W900MAD'
Only done just over 4000 miles

:(

Nikko2 19 February 2004 08:07 PM

Me and my father have a westy. I lurk on here, he lurks on the WSCC website.

This is our second one we used to have one with a 135bhp lotus twicam engine.

Now we have one with a 330bhp cossie turbo. (490bhp/ton)

The accleration is :D I have heard some impressive figures floating around for the car but cannot confrim any yet.

Hoping for a good spell of decent weather this year.....

Perhaps we will meet up at a WSCC meet.

Dracoro 20 February 2004 10:35 AM

GaryC - does your car come with any wet weather gear or windscreen? ( I need to be able to drive it in wert weather ) I could be interested.

Any pics would be great too. :)

VinPetrol 20 February 2004 11:26 AM

http://www.findit.co.uk/cars/westfield/1033496.htm


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