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Fuzz 11 January 2003 01:20 AM

Questions at the end ;)

Find a chunk of aluminum
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...4939423137.jpg
Mill it to required thickness my case 38mm wide (was meant to be 40 :D)
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...4939354926.jpg http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...4939461766.jpg
drill a hole in it and lathe to a 3degree pitch
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...4939585537.jpg
I got a little carried away here :o (clocked it up to ensure holes got drilled in middle of plate)
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...4939414557.jpg
Setout the holes (all looked ok at this point :rolleyes:)
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...1049394461.jpg
Drill and tap the holes
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...4939465967.jpg
Grab camera again while drilling :D
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...4939679516.jpg
Cut it to length now hole distance has been decided upon
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...0553605556.jpg
TADAAAAA :D
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...0553484611.jpg
different angle
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...0553464680.jpg
Fit and finish (well almost)
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...0553674206.jpg

A :rolleyes: few modifications to Prototype No 2 will be required
spacing of holes, left to right was near perfect (see how neat the ringlet sits next to the next one).
However I balsed up the front to back measurement, only allowing 12.66mm instead of 15mm. Doh !
Oh and the reason I have only done three conections is......
6 holes...so bought 6 gold plated ringlets....DOH ! the cable has 2 ends :rolleyes:

Andy

At the moment the ally is nice and bright but will tarnish. what do I do about corrosion protection ?
(sprayed with WD-40 as temp measure :D)
OK, could I have it anodised, will this reduce it's conductivity ?

wally 11 January 2003 01:24 AM

Did the earth mod just with some 16' cable and simple connectors, works even like the expansive one, but anyway, nice handjob that you did on the millingmachine...
Wally

*Sonic* 11 January 2003 01:50 AM

half way down I thought you had started to make a domino

nice work btw


Brun 11 January 2003 10:05 AM

Has the mod improved the car in any way. Cold running etc? I'm thinking about this for mine as it is crap in cold weather.

dnb 11 January 2003 12:21 PM

Looks great. Puts my tatty earth mod to shame.

Someone round here a couple of weeks ago said that he could do gold plating :D I can't think of a better use. You've gone to the trouble of this much overkill, so why not IMPROVE its conductivity and protect it from corrosion :)


dhorwich 11 January 2003 12:23 PM

have you thought about making a few of these and selling them..?????? i would deffinitly buy one..!!! let us know..!

Dan:D:D

Brun 11 January 2003 01:32 PM

Good thinking Dan, i may be up for a bit of that.:)

Gizmo555 11 January 2003 04:28 PM

How about making a shed load and selling them for £2 each - I'd have one ;)

Seriously if you do decide to sell some I'd be interested.

In terms of corrosion why not coat it in the stuff which is normally on the battery terminals ?

Cheers

Mark

JohnD 11 January 2003 05:14 PM

Naughty-naughty for holding the work in a 4-jaw like that (pic.4) Should have used a faceplate? (The photo is 90* out!) Engineering critisms over, it turned out ok! As I did a 7-point earth mod ages ago it would be good to finish it off with something like that.
JohnD (ex- mechanical engineering lecturer)

Fizz 11 January 2003 05:14 PM

I would buy one.. thinking of doing the earth mod myself and this looks luuurvly

MRK_IV 11 January 2003 07:46 PM

Looks very impressive. A question though - wouldn't using a single 4 AWG lead from the negative going to a distribution block and then 'starring' from there have the same effect?

buzzerboyroy 11 January 2003 08:51 PM

fuzz
nice neat job
but i hate to put a dampener on things,
i am an electrician by trade,,copper and ally dont mix to well when conducted with electicity,they corrode,quite badly infact,,

cant you get hold of any copper block to do the same job?????to stop it from corroding smear with coppa slip???
just an idea.
on my new car the earth mod i used this time was a large crimp(lug)with 6 of the wires all going into the same large hole and then i crimped it .
all the best mate
roy

ozzy 11 January 2003 10:02 PM

Roy/Fuzz,

Aren't those connectors gold-plated and not copper?

Stefan

SilverSmith 11 January 2003 11:23 PM

Neat, looking for a similar solution at present myself to connect 6 earth wires - neatly - to the battery terminal :D

MRK_IV 12 January 2003 12:05 AM

Like I said - a 6-way distribution Earthing block from a Car Audio Dealer - unless anyone can tell me why it won't do the same job?

Fuzz 12 January 2003 11:39 AM

MRK,
£££££ from car hi-fi dealer.

Those six ;) GOLD ;) connectors and 24m of 8swg cable cost £24..something (£20 cash as I know them :D)

Those that want one...
Are you looking for a "package" with all the cable and connectors
Or just the earth Block ???

Would need to find a cheaper source for the connectors and cable to make it competative I think ?? any ideas?

Also want to mod the block so that all cables tranfer out on the same side of the block, would need to re-position holes.
Prototype No 2 on it's way shortly :D

Andy

Mickle 12 January 2003 11:50 AM

If I wanted an earth mod I'd rather buy the whole thing so get your business head on and come up with a kit price :D

I'd buy one as well :)

Fuzz 12 January 2003 12:06 PM

Me a business man..
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Andy

Dyney 12 January 2003 09:42 PM

Looks good:)

I'd be interested in a kit price!!!
Is the prototype 2 going to have the connection holes ofset to each other? (Rather than in pairs)

Iain.

Fuzz @ Nismo's place 12 January 2003 10:10 PM

"""Also want to mod the block so that all cables tranfer out on the same side of the block, would need to re-position holes.
Prototype No 2 on it's way shortly"""

yep ;)

Fizz 12 January 2003 11:23 PM

Both.. Kit price would be handy or at least the componant you used so I could try and source some.. Have a friend that works in the car audio trade.. I was looking for a neat solution to the battery connection....

David_Wallis 12 January 2003 11:55 PM

Andy, Looks Nice...

You get better tools and better scrap at work than I get at home..

Most car audio terminals are Brass and not gold.. (im not on about you andy)

Alu. is a good conductor and most cables for power industry.. Ie 11kv cables are alu.. not copper.. (probably down to cost though!)

Still Nice.. but not my cup of tea..

I would still go for the same but on the chassis leg.. as I would rather have it look std..

David

Fuzz 13 January 2003 12:31 AM

""as I would rather have it look std..""

<scratches head>

front intake conversion.....Front mounted house..I mean intercooler...water injection..Nos...Turbo....the list goes on.
I think it's a bit late to keep her looking standard David ;)

All the best
Andy

David_Wallis 13 January 2003 10:10 AM

Exterior... And I dont like loads of cables on the battery... reminds me of friends early fiesta's :)

Fuzz 13 January 2003 11:46 PM

How many earth points do you all want ?
Is seven enough?


1. Alternator.
2. Inlet manifold.
3. Right strut turret.
4. Left strut turret.
5. ECU support bracket.
6. Left front chassis Leg.
7. Right front chassis leg.

don't wan't to have to make them a third time ;)

Got my eye on a full length of aluminum bar, it's just asking to be hacked up :D


Andy

edit as I can't count :rolleyes:

[Edited by Fuzz - 1/13/2003 11:47:48 PM]

snowcrash 14 January 2003 12:03 AM

lmao, andy you bored at work or something... done that video yet ;), or do you want me to have a pop at it... :D

Fuzz 14 January 2003 12:12 AM

nope, just a bit stuck in the evenings at the mo, waiting for parts to come in for a car job I have in the workshop. (snapped cam belt) doing this as a favour if he makes me a tool for making the degreed hole in this earth block everyone is interested in.
Tis a bit labour intensive, drilling it, then setting it up in the lathe, to put the degree on it..

Andy

P.s I hate friggin timing up diesel engines :(

p.p.s if you would like to have a go at putting something together of the RR day @ Powerstation that would be great.
could combine turboteeths footage too....
up to you, I'll bring you the original tape at the star meet in Feb if you like?

snowcrash 14 January 2003 08:33 AM

turboteeth's footage is actually my footage :) he wanted to be cameraman that day and i couldn't be arsed to film ;)

yeah bring the tape down to the meet and i'll have a play...

might be a good time to test some ~ahem~ audio rendering :D

[Edited by snowcrash - 1/14/2003 9:28:18 AM]

ozzy 04 February 2003 12:43 AM

[rant mode on]
Just because I can afford an Impreza and have enough disposable income to buy mods, doesn't mean I like throwing money away. Why pay £100+ for someone else's kit when you can do your own for a fraction of the cost. What's the point of lining someone else's pockets :confused: If I had the tools and ability, I'd make up an ally block myself.

No offence, but it gets right on my nipple ends when folk say that. I can just here my Dealer say, "well if he can afford one of our cars, he can afford to pay more for parts and servicing".
[/rant mode off]

I was always told too spend your money wisely. The £90+ I saved will go nicely to my summer hols :)

Fuzz,

Top work m8. Lets us know the final costs and when you're ready to start making batches of these. I fancy one of the ally blocks myself :)

Stefan

P.S. I've already got all the cables and connectors on my car already, so it's just the block I need to tidy up the battery connection.

[Edited by ozzy - 4/2/2003 12:50:26 AM]

Fuzz 14 February 2003 09:54 PM

shouldn't this be in Projects forum :D:D

Oh by the way I have finally made prototype 2, not fitted to car yet, pics in due course...


Andy


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